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    【ガンダム】グフのヒートロッドってパイロットには不評だったのかな?



    1: 2019/03/24 07:41:57 No.578506755 ▼このレスに返信

    乗ってるパイロットたちからは
    なんかヒート・ロッドの評判が悪い気がする
    2: 2019/03/24 07:45:31 No.578506965 ▼このレスに返信
    決定打にならないんだからそりゃそうだ
    3: 2019/03/24 07:46:45 No.578507036 ▼このレスに返信
    指マシンガンも弾数少なそうだよね
    4: 2019/03/24 07:47:05 No.578507061 ▼このレスに返信
    ノリスはめっちゃ活かしてたじゃん!
    7: 2019/03/24 07:48:47 No.578507167 ▼このレスに返信
    ノリスはロッドの使い方上手いよな
    スタンさせたり相手の銃落としたり落下速度緩めて砲撃避けたり一回捨てた剣を回収したり
    15: 2019/03/24 07:55:13 No.578507616 ▼このレスに返信
    >ノリスはロッドの使い方上手いよな
    >スタンさせたり相手の銃落としたり落下速度緩めて砲撃避けたり一回捨てた剣を回収したり
    攻撃から雑用まで何でもできるヒートロッドは優秀な武器だな…
    20: 2019/03/24 08:03:46 No.578508225 ▼このレスに返信
    >一回捨てた剣を回収したり
    離れ業過ぎる…
    12: 2019/03/24 07:51:43 No.578507374 ▼このレスに返信
    ノリスは本人の技量が高過ぎて何乗っても強そう
    5: 2019/03/24 07:47:44 No.578507099 ▼このレスに返信
    種の方ならムチで連合のバリアばきばき壊せるのに
    6: 2019/03/24 07:48:47 No.578507165 ▼このレスに返信
    Gファイター登場回なんかあのガンダムさんをヒートロッドで行動不能寸前まで追い詰めたのに
    9: 2019/03/24 07:50:04 No.578507254 ▼このレスに返信
    ガンダムの部位破壊達成した数少ない武装の一つなのに…
    10: 2019/03/24 07:50:55 No.578507315 ▼このレスに返信
    ウミヘビと違って距離が短くてパワー不足だから使わなくなりそう
    11: 2019/03/24 07:51:00 No.578507322 ▼このレスに返信
    ホワイトベース隊が尻尾撒いて逃げたのはマクベ配下のグフ隊くらいのもんだ
    あいつらロッドじゃなくてザクマシンガンだったけど
    14: 2019/03/24 07:54:02 No.578507527 ▼このレスに返信
    ビリビリさせてる間は本体機能が低下するからドダイ必須か
    16: 2019/03/24 07:55:37 No.578507635 ▼このレスに返信
    ムチタイプより
    射出型のワイヤータイプのほうが使いやすそう…
    19: 2019/03/24 08:02:22 No.578508104 ▼このレスに返信
    ムチはちょっと切られても余裕で使えてたけどワイヤーは先っぽなくなったらめっちゃ使いにくそう
    21: 2019/03/24 08:18:59 No.578509357 ▼このレスに返信
    両手がマシンガンのヤツはめっちゃ扱いづらそう
    25: 2019/03/24 08:22:58 No.578509691 ▼このレスに返信
    >両手がマシンガンのヤツはめっちゃ扱いづらそう
    普通に物を持てるから大丈夫だ
    32: 2019/03/24 08:29:52 No.578510275 ▼このレスに返信
    >普通に物を持てるから大丈夫だ
    ザクの装備は使えないけどドムの装備は使えるらしいな
    34: 2019/03/24 08:31:55 No.578510583 ▼このレスに返信
    >ザクの装備は使えないけどドムの装備は使えるらしいな
    いや普通にザクマシンガンもヒートホークも持ってるやん
    バズーカ持ってたかは記憶にないけどジャイアントバズのほうが強力なんだから選べたらそっち持つでしょ
    37: 2019/03/24 08:35:36 No.578511126 ▼このレスに返信
    重装型は控えめにいってゴミだと思うけど両手をグフカスにしてやれば化けると思う
    41: 2019/03/24 09:02:17 No.578516618 ▼このレスに返信
    >重装型は控えめにいってゴミだと思うけど両手をグフカスにしてやれば化けると思う
    それで足をフライトタイプベースでホバー化してやれば生産ラインそのままほぼドムっぽいグフに出来ると常々思っていた
    22: 2019/03/24 08:21:15 No.578509536 ▼このレスに返信
    基本的にグフは強敵だしだいたいがヒートロッド使いこなしてるよね
    23: 2019/03/24 08:21:45 No.578509580 ▼このレスに返信
    変に接近戦しなくていい分むしろ使いやすいと思う
    26: 2019/03/24 08:23:01 No.578509697 ▼このレスに返信
    >変に接近戦しなくていい分むしろ使いやすいと思う
    いやトリントンの町の復興手伝いって
    両手マシンガンでどうやって土木工事やるんだよ
    28: 2019/03/24 08:24:20 No.578509807 ▼このレスに返信
    >両手マシンガンでどうやって土木工事やるんだよ
    そもそもランバラルのグフって両手でヒートソード握ってるやん
    29: 2019/03/24 08:26:41 No.578510009 ▼このレスに返信
    ヒートロッドってあんまりヒート感ないな
    31: 2019/03/24 08:27:38 No.578510086 ▼このレスに返信
    >ヒートロッドってあんまりヒート感ないな
    印象としてはエレキロッドだよね
    ガンダムのつま先切ったりしてるからヒートしてるんだろうけど
    30: 2019/03/24 08:27:23 No.578510072 ▼このレスに返信
    というかヒートだったんだ…
    電気ビリビリかと
    33: 2019/03/24 08:30:27 No.578510349 ▼このレスに返信
    ヒートロッド謎技術だしな…
    36: 2019/03/24 08:35:09 No.578511042 ▼このレスに返信
    >ヒートロッド謎技術だしな…
    熱で溶断したり電撃流せたり収納スペースに対して出せる長さがすごかったり多機能すぎる
    24: 2019/03/24 08:22:13 No.578509626 ▼このレスに返信
    相手はマシンガンが効かない相手なんだからむしろこういうの使わないと

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        フィンガーバルカンがもの持てないってのはどこから来た勘違いなんだろうか

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        ヒートロッドはロッドじゃない事が不評なのかと思ったのに

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        濡れタオルとかでもスパーンとやったら目潰しくらいできるし
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        まあ人間じゃないから溜めの予備動作は不要だろうけど複雑な事に変わりはないし。
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        あの肩のスパイクとか何だったんだよってつなぎの雑魚メカに成り下がってしまった。
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