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    1: 2020/05/03 15:53:00 No.731323621 ▼このレスに返信

    Zガンダムのシャアって弱すぎない?
    その辺の兵士と何回撃ち合ってんだ
    2: 2020/05/03 15:53:34 No.731323763 ▼このレスに返信
    周りがレベルアップしてんだ
    3: 2020/05/03 15:54:03 No.731323914 ▼このレスに返信
    Zの時はモラトリアム期間だからいいんだよ
    6: 2020/05/03 15:57:32 No.731324921 ▼このレスに返信
    でも不思議とクワトロ時代のシャアは好き
    8: 2020/05/03 15:58:46 No.731325267 ▼このレスに返信
    ここぞのところで物凄く格好良くエネルギー切れを起こすのが仕事ですから
    10: 2020/05/03 16:00:26 No.731325761 ▼このレスに返信
    カイはシャアと一緒に戦うのがよほどに入らなかったんだろうか
    17: 2020/05/03 16:03:48 No.731326777 ▼このレスに返信
    >カイはシャアと一緒に戦うのがよほどに入らなかったんだろうか
    それにくらべてブライトさんの大人の対応の凄さ
    11: 2020/05/03 16:00:29 No.731325781 ▼このレスに返信
    なんですぐに身バレしてんの?
    12: 2020/05/03 16:01:01 No.731325926 ▼このレスに返信
    エンドロールから隠してないのがいけなかった
    15: 2020/05/03 16:03:10 No.731326607 ▼このレスに返信
    赤い服着るから
    16: 2020/05/03 16:03:25 No.731326672 ▼このレスに返信
    普通のパイロットが「くそっ!」とか「ちきしょう!」とか言うようなシーンでも「ええい」と無駄にかっこよさげに振る舞うから強キャラ感が出るんや
    雰囲気イケメンみたいな
    21: 2020/05/03 16:05:14 No.731327176 ▼このレスに返信
    ミネバに謁見する際シャアって声掛けられて周りのみんな驚いてたし
    28: 2020/05/03 16:08:43 No.731328167 ▼このレスに返信

    射撃体勢で真正面に居る老人を狙ったのに避けられるとか
    これじゃああなはたNTじゃないってアムロに言われるよね
    32: 2020/05/03 16:09:27 No.731328397 ▼このレスに返信
    大事なのは当てる事じゃない 当てられないことなんだ
    30: 2020/05/03 16:08:56 No.731328238 ▼このレスに返信
    シャアって一人で戦艦沈める実力者じゃなかったっけ?
    36: 2020/05/03 16:11:10 No.731328870 ▼このレスに返信
    >シャアって一人で戦艦沈める実力者じゃなかったっけ?
    自軍だけMS運用してる時代の話だしね…
    45: 2020/05/03 16:14:26 No.731329832 ▼このレスに返信
    ティターンズが平均的に強いのもあるんじゃないの
    あいつら一応エリートの集まりだよね
    58: 2020/05/03 16:21:31 No.731331837 ▼このレスに返信
    >ティターンズが平均的に強いのもあるんじゃないの
    >あいつら一応エリートの集まりだよね
    ティターンズは連邦軍から選抜されたエリート部隊だからな
    ジェリドも新人の中からティターンズ配属になったんだし腕はいいよ
    序盤だけでもガンダムマーク2、ハイザック、マラサイと即座に乗り換えて戦えるんだし
    61: 2020/05/03 16:22:00 No.731332005 ▼このレスに返信
    >ティターンズが平均的に強いのもあるんじゃないの
    ティターンズじゃないブルタークにも押されてましたね
    51: 2020/05/03 16:17:23 No.731330666 ▼このレスに返信
    一年戦争からこのかた6年7年も経ってりゃ殆どのパイロットは訓練も経験も積まれてる
    シャアが弱いんじゃなく他が強くなってるのよ
    59: 2020/05/03 16:21:32 No.731331843 ▼このレスに返信
    クワトロ弱くないだろ勝ちは少ないけど負けもほぼない
    クワトロ時代の問題は戦闘ではなく人間関係
    68: 2020/05/03 16:23:36 No.731332485 ▼このレスに返信
    >クワトロ時代の問題は戦闘ではなく人間関係
    そこはクワトロ時代に限らず問題だらけだし…

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/03(Sun) 22:36:09 ID:60eebe9b1            ★コメ返信★

        逆シャアでも強かったかと言われると…まあそこそこかな?程度ですし…

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/03(Sun) 23:00:12 ID:9af28046b            ★コメ返信★

        いやcca時代は最高クラスだっただろ
        後付けとはいえヤザンとかをフルボッコにしてるし、なによりアムロと互角にやれてるのは凄い
        ベルチルに至ってはアムロの弱体化も相まって凄いことになってる

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/03(Sun) 23:05:51 ID:e749310a6            ★コメ返信★

        ジュドーの方がよほど百式を使いこなしていたしなぁ

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/03(Sun) 23:08:35 ID:e749310a6            ★コメ返信★

        互角か?
        大量のギラドーガ隊とNT専用MSとNT専用MA相手にして消耗したνに撃墜されたやん
        ファンネルの扱いに至ってはギュネイの方が使いこなしていたぞ
        まぁライバル補正がだいぶ掛かっててかなり強くはあったけど

        あとベルトーチカチルドレンは明確に「ナイチンゲールの方が高性能」と設定されてる
        漫画版のHi-νなんて調整不足どころか塗装すらされてない状態だった

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/03(Sun) 23:47:03 ID:e261035df            ★コメ返信★

        一年戦争で頭ふたつ分ぐらい抜きん出てたけど、後年になって対MS戦術もあらかた成熟されてきたので、結果的にクワトロ時代で頭ひとつ分ぐらいに落ち着いた

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 00:08:56 ID:8175f9392            ★コメ返信★

        アムロという宇宙世紀最強の男と張り合えるやつをシャア以外誰か連れてきてからだな

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 00:23:53 ID:52b76fddc            ★コメ返信★

        機体性能が同等ならハマーン様はわりといけると思う
        シロッコは…カツにやられそうになったのがマイナスポイントすぎる

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 00:31:36 ID:a32e0f21c            ★コメ返信★

        ゲルググ以降はアムロに大差付けられていたな
        ジオングもガンダムより遥かにスペックが高いはずなのに相打ちだったし

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 00:48:55 ID:6cbf48ebb            ★コメ返信★

        そもそも百式が弱い

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 01:01:52 ID:e5bffaaa3            ★コメ返信★

        クワトロ時代はいろいろ生煮えだからな。ちゃんと覚悟を持ってた他時代に比べたら決めきれないのはしゃーない

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 01:21:07 ID:0b21d2b3f            ★コメ返信★

        連邦を好き勝手に扱えるティターンズ相手に
        パイロットは居てもMSが無い事が常だった、所詮は私軍でしかないエゥーゴと組織の差がかなり激しかったし
        しかもそのティターンズは一年戦争を経験した猛者が最新鋭のMSに乗っている

        組織、MSの性能、パイロットの腕
        全てにおいて、Ζはガンダム作品の中でも群を抜いて敵が強すぎて超不利な状況なんだよ

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 01:29:04 ID:605e6fcbd            ★コメ返信★

        でも戦場を支配しているとか言われてたし
        アポリーロベルトより強いし

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 01:35:54 ID:beff876f0            ★コメ返信★

        飛べない百式と飛べるアッシマーの時点で普通なら無理ゲー
        パラシュート開いてない降下中の空挺隊員が戦闘ヘリに勝てるか?

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 02:34:15 ID:6512351ba            ★コメ返信★

        宇宙世紀最強のシロッコ&ジ・Oとハマーン&キュベレイを同時に型落ち機で相手しながら生き延びるの凄すぎやん

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 08:40:18 ID:534f8cbd7            ★コメ返信★

        まんまシンのアスランに対する煽りだな
        アスランの方がこの時期のシャアのオマージュなんだろうけど

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 13:19:39 ID:52b76fddc            ★コメ返信★

        どっちにも舐めプされとったやん
        そもそも1vs2じゃなくて三すくみやし

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 13:32:59 ID:125a90ed2            ★コメ返信★

        何十年同じ話題繰り返してんの
        ボケ老人かよ

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 14:51:14 ID:082692052            ★コメ返信★

        ジョニ帰の時のシャアって一応表向きの大儀があって周りも持ち上げてくれる中で部下が自由に戦える場を作ってくれた上に、昔アムロ乗ってたのと同じ機体に新機能付きで乗れてテンション最高だったんじゃないかな?
        結果戦艦二隻落として雑魚相手に無双した挙句、強化人間・NT・オールドタイプ最強格二人相手にしてなお余裕あるとか言う過去最強のシャアだったんだと思うわ

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 18:59:00 ID:b70aeacc3            ★コメ返信★

        >>13
        知者がすでに千年も前に答えている問題を、
        無知な人は改めてまた得意げに提出するのだ
        ゲーテ

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 19:48:18 ID:abe521961            ★コメ返信★

        結局自分が認めた相手以外は舐めプしちゃう悪い癖がある人だから
        乙時代はうだつがあがらない、というか終始やる気の無さが漂った残念な人=禿

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/05/04(Mon) 21:03:23 ID:b10af4c52            ★コメ返信★

        この手を見るたび思うが
        言うほど舐めプはされてない
        そして言うとおり三すくみだったから上手い事保って撃墜されなかった

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/01/12(Tue) 18:25:41 ID:fea52ed4c            ★コメ返信★

        お前らが認めなくても、アムロが認めてるわ
        これが答え

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/01/28(Thu) 17:11:44 ID:6076b9708            ★コメ返信★

        >>17
        こういう話をしてるのが楽しいんであって結果なんか二の次さんの次なのよ

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