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    【ガンダム ジョニ帰】結局レッドってジョニーライデン本人なの?



    1: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:45:28▼このレスに返信

    読むまでこの表紙の人がジョニー・ライデンだと思ってたんだけど違うのね
    3: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:46:39▼このレスに返信
    97%くらいジョニー
    2: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:46:02▼このレスに返信
    ユウマくんがジョニーって言ってるしジョニー
    4: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:47:04▼このレスに返信
    ジョニー・ライデンだと信じればジョニー・ライデンになるんだよ
    7: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:48:09▼このレスに返信
    ジョニー・ライデンのようでジョニー・ライデンでないちょっとジョニー・ライデン
    10: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:51:04▼このレスに返信
    基本ジョニー路線で進んでるけど、近い世代に全裸とかいるせいで記憶のフラッシュバックとかあっても信用しきれないマン
    15: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:53:11▼このレスに返信
    絶対CV井上和彦
    19: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:54:53▼このレスに返信
    >15
    レッドさんはジョニーとは顔も声も違う
    17: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:54:17▼このレスに返信
    ガンダムエース公認でジョニーだよ
    9: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:50:50▼このレスに返信
    ヤザン・ゲーブル似のヤザン・ゲーブルではない人
    11: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:51:30▼このレスに返信
    >9
    ヤザンじゃん!絶対ヤザンじゃん!
    14: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:52:31▼このレスに返信
    >11
    本人が違うって言ったよ!
    13: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:52:23▼このレスに返信
    >9
    ところでシロッコってどんな奴だった?
    16: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:54:11▼このレスに返信
    >13
    面白い奴でしたよ
    8: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:48:47▼このレスに返信
    宇宙世紀「俺○○かもしれない」って人多すぎだろ
    12: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:52:22▼このレスに返信
    >8
    シャアの再来だって安売りされてるんだし大丈夫だろ
    20: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:55:14▼このレスに返信
    ガンダムの高確率で的中って奴は絶対外れる奴じゃん!
    22: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:56:01▼このレスに返信
    >20
    いや、作中の人物ほぼ全員が確信してるからこれで外れたらコントだ
    25: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:59:44▼このレスに返信
    >22
    これ絶対実は違いますって前フリじゃん!
    26: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:01:00▼このレスに返信
    >25
    もう状況的にジョニーでしかあり得ないから
    違うって思う奴はもう逆張りしたいだけの奴だよ
    24: 名無し 2018/11/05 16:57:16▼このレスに返信
    大佐がジョニーって言ってるんだぞ!?大佐が嘘ついてるってのか!?
    56: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:09:16▼このレスに返信
    >24
    大佐とジョニーは会ったことないし…デジタル処理で存在消されてるし…オフィシャルではありませんぞだし…
    28: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:01:21▼このレスに返信
    シンマツナガ連れてきて会わせれば分かるだろ
    58: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:10:07▼このレスに返信
    シンマツナガは出てきたリしないの
    60: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:10:35▼このレスに返信
    >58
    マツナガも生死不明の行方不明だから
    30: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:01:46▼このレスに返信
    ヴェノムスネーク的な正体である可能性
    35: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:04:05▼このレスに返信
    レッドの過去が会長による捏造なのはほぼ確定なのでジョニーでないとしたら一年戦争末期に捕虜になったその辺のパイロットというどうしようもないオチ
    42: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:06:48▼このレスに返信
    レッドはジョニー本人じゃなく本物のジョニーの身代わり的存在のような気がする
    49: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:07:55▼このレスに返信
    >42
    あんだけ強ければ身代わりもくそもないような
    それとも本物はシャアに対抗できたりするのか
    195: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:41:05▼このレスに返信
    >49
    あるとしたらジョニー・ライデンは複数人の戦果が纏められて作られた存在でレッドはその中の1人とかかなぁ
    クローンと言うか記憶継承そっくりさんは全裸がやってるからやらない気がするし
    52: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:08:38▼このレスに返信
    >42
    仮にそうだとして誰が作ったんだよ、そんなの
    44: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:07:14▼このレスに返信
    最初にジョニーは沢山居るってなってるから本物じゃないと思う人はそう思ってていいんじゃないかな
    37: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:05:04▼このレスに返信
    レッド=ジョニーじゃないならジョニーはもう死んでるって一番つまらないオチになるぞ
    41: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:06:31▼このレスに返信
    違ってたらユーマくんの立場は
    54: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:08:58▼このレスに返信
    ジョニー・ライデンに関係してるけどジョニー・ライデンではない感じがする
    77: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:14:04▼このレスに返信
    ジョニーの記憶コピーしたけど定着しなかったとかでも通るけど
    そもそもジョニーってそこまでして身代わり作らなきゃいけないような存在でもないだろうし…
    57: 名無し 2018/11/05 17:09:59▼このレスに返信
    ジョニーライデンと言うのは鞍馬天狗みたいなフェアリーめいた存在なのか

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/01/19(Wed) 16:27:33 ID:afb5cd7b1            ★コメ返信★

        ここまできてジョニー版フル・フロンタルでしたってオチは勘弁してほしい

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/01/19(Wed) 17:56:34 ID:d40dc54f4            ★コメ返信★

        MGSとか、強烈な暗示で自分を他の誰かと思いこむとかできるんか

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/01/19(Wed) 18:45:02 ID:a9af7bd46            ★コメ返信★

        記憶の改ざん、オーガスタやムラサメが絡んでるのかな

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/01/19(Wed) 19:24:29 ID:565849b1e            ★コメ返信★

        ハナシの進め方は確かにレッドがジョニーライデンかのように演出してるけど、FSS会長のフーバーがジョニーライデンその人でしょう
        最初っから疑う余地も無い

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/01/19(Wed) 20:00:22 ID:7b185a78c            ★コメ返信★

        偽物だったら他に話が作れるだけ

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/01/19(Wed) 20:12:42 ID:c225ac034            ★コメ返信★

        本物でも偽物でもArkが適当な設定を考えてくるだから
        どっちでもいいよ

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/01/19(Wed) 20:37:41 ID:654f88b90            ★コメ返信★

        >記事52
        あいつならやるだろうという無駄な信頼感がキシリア麾下の特務連中にはある

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/01/20(Thu) 00:39:10 ID:b75d43cb1            ★コメ返信★

        ※6
        サンライズはおそらく、大量にあるガンダム漫画の多くは監修までしていないと思われるが、これは企画がMSV-R(=公式設定)の公式コミックで内容にサンライズの監修が入ってるので多分立ち位置が違う。Arkが好きに決められるわけじゃないんじゃないかな

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/01/20(Thu) 23:42:40 ID:952d794fb            ★コメ返信★

        レッドは捏造された過去を信じてるから
        (例:お袋がアメリカにいる。戦時中はジム乗ってたetc)
        そこらへん強化人間の手法が使われてるはず…なんだけど、
        ユーマがらみで強化人間の話が出たときに、レッドもそうだと臭わせるコマすら
        なかったのが不思議。

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