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    【ガンダム】ドラえもんの道具みたいなMS設計システムwwwwwwwwwwww



    1: 2020/01/26 15:18:54 No.657966794 ▼このレスに返信

    このMS設計システム超便利すぎない?
    2: 2020/01/26 15:22:47 No.657967686 ▼このレスに返信
    これほしい
    3: 2020/01/26 15:23:17 No.657967800 ▼このレスに返信
    逆にこのシステム無しで格闘出来るプチモビを作れるカミーユって凄くね?
    4: 2020/01/26 15:23:51 No.657967939 ▼このレスに返信
    自己再生自己進化自己増殖するMS
    入力っと
    6: 2020/01/26 15:24:44 No.657968143 ▼このレスに返信
    AGEに出てきた錬金釜よりすごくね?
    7: 2020/01/26 15:25:02 No.657968208 ▼このレスに返信
    AGEがばかみたいじゃないですか…
    8: 2020/01/26 15:26:17 No.657968498 ▼このレスに返信
    工業高校生でもとりあえず歩行できるレベルのMS設計出来るっていうのがヤバすぎる…
    10: 2020/01/26 15:26:55 No.657968651 ▼このレスに返信
    「SFまんが!迫力ある宇宙冒険もの!読み切り250ページ」
    とか言うと書いてくれるドラえもんの道具みたいだ
    11: 2020/01/26 15:27:24 No.657968760 ▼このレスに返信
    設計できるからといっていろんなものを作りすぎてもいかんということかジオン
    13: 2020/01/26 15:29:36 No.657969283 ▼このレスに返信
    だから無駄に面白兵器作る奴が現れたのか…
    14: 2020/01/26 15:29:57 No.657969353 ▼このレスに返信
    結局見本作ってくれるマシーンだから数量産はできないからね
    15: 2020/01/26 15:30:23 No.657969436 ▼このレスに返信
    現場でここキツいから直しとこーが即座に出来るのがデカい
    同一兵器でも別戦線の環境ごとのデータと改善策がポンとまとめられる
    18: 2020/01/26 15:31:49 No.657969745 ▼このレスに返信
    技術者の夢の機械すぎる…
    19: 2020/01/26 15:34:21 No.657970388 ▼このレスに返信
    これで特許とれば公国の資金源になってスペースノイドの地位復権に役立つんじゃないかな…
    45: 2020/01/26 15:47:05 No.657973381 ▼このレスに返信

    >これで特許とれば公国の資金源になってスペースノイドの地位復権に役立つんじゃないかな…
    戦後に共和国が戦時債務支払う為に高値で技術売っ払った
    わざと連邦とアナハイム半々に
    su3599966.jpg

    54: 2020/01/26 15:51:33 No.657974543 ▼このレスに返信
    >戦後に共和国が戦時債務支払う為に高値で技術売っ払った
    >わざと連邦とアナハイム半々に
    >su3599966.jpg
    やはりジオニックは悪…
    20: 2020/01/26 15:34:29 No.657970419 ▼このレスに返信
    連邦もアホみたいにジムとガンダムのバリエーションを一年戦争中に作ってたけど
    この機械無しでどうやったんだろう
    36: 2020/01/26 15:43:28 No.657972560 ▼このレスに返信
    >連邦もアホみたいにジムとガンダムのバリエーションを一年戦争中に作ってたけど
    >この機械無しでどうやったんだろう
    マンパワーしかないよな…
    40: 2020/01/26 15:45:31 No.657973006 ▼このレスに返信
    >>連邦もアホみたいにジムとガンダムのバリエーションを一年戦争中に作ってたけど
    >>この機械無しでどうやったんだろう
    >マンパワーしかないよな…
    設計思想が堅実だったりジオンのコンセプトに対抗だったりで自由度が数段落ちる辺り国力で無理やりやってるんだろうね・・・
    53: 2020/01/26 15:51:26 No.657974514 ▼このレスに返信
    >連邦もアホみたいにジムとガンダムのバリエーションを一年戦争中に作ってたけど
    >この機械無しでどうやったんだろう
    めっちゃ単純
    技術者何倍も居るから
    21: 2020/01/26 15:35:02 No.657970558 ▼このレスに返信
    これ使って山ほど作ったのが水用MSっていう
    22: 2020/01/26 15:35:02 No.657970561 ▼このレスに返信
    よくわからん謎の試作兵器がポコポコ湧いてくるのはこいつのせいなのか
    29: 2020/01/26 15:39:42 No.657971679 ▼このレスに返信
    >よくわからん謎の試作兵器がポコポコ湧いてくるのはこいつのせいなのか
    逆算だよね
    あのバリエ違いを成立されるにはスレ画か
    もしくは遺跡から発掘されたでもないと無理
    24: 2020/01/26 15:36:41 No.657970952 ▼このレスに返信
    結局一年で何種類作ったんだか
    26: 2020/01/26 15:37:56 No.657971231 ▼このレスに返信
    数人が数週間で作ったようなMS多いもんね…
    27: 2020/01/26 15:39:24 No.657971604 ▼このレスに返信
    徹夜のときに作ったMSは多いと思う
    33: 2020/01/26 15:41:38 No.657972115 ▼このレスに返信
    >徹夜のときに作ったMSは多いと思う
    グフ重装型とか徹夜のテンションか現場から来たクレームに逆切れした勢いで設計したとしか思えないよね・・・
    81: 2020/01/26 16:00:23 No.657976724 ▼このレスに返信
    >グフ重装型とか徹夜のテンションか現場から来たクレームに逆切れした勢いで設計したとしか思えないよね・・・
    あ!?グフの射撃強化しても意味ねーだろ!こいつ格闘戦型だぞ!ああいいよいいよ作ってやるぞその代わり絶対使えよ!?お前が欲しいっつったんだからな!?
    すぐ弾切れして近づく前にハチの巣にされるのに格闘もクソもあるか!おうやればできんじゃねえかこいつでバリバリ…あこんなんなっちゃうんだ…こいつでバリバリ無双してやっから吠え面かくなよ!
    みたいなやりとりがいっぱいあったのかな
    30: 2020/01/26 15:40:48 No.657971924 ▼このレスに返信
    これを適切に運用できるのがすげえよ
    31: 2020/01/26 15:40:58 No.657971960 ▼このレスに返信
    外装だけザクにしたハイザックの開発手順が手に取るようにわかる
    35: 2020/01/26 15:43:14 No.657972508 ▼このレスに返信
    ジオンで一番凄いのは開戦時の戦力を極秘裏に作り上げた点だと思うよ
    41: 2020/01/26 15:45:45 No.657973062 ▼このレスに返信
    元々連邦のMS開発速度が速いことに対するアンサーの一つがコンピューターによる設計システム(CAD=CAMシステム)だっんだがわざわざその発展形をジオンが持ってることにするとはね
    42: 2020/01/26 15:46:11 No.657973160 ▼このレスに返信
    そうしてお出しされた中にアッザムやザクレロもあってそいつのフィードバックも
    …多分入ってないだろうな
    46: 2020/01/26 15:47:30 No.657973483 ▼このレスに返信
    >そうしてお出しされた中にアッザムやザクレロもあってそいつのフィードバックも
    >…多分入ってないだろうな
    アッザムはアレだがザクレロのフィードバック結果がビグロでないかい
    ペイントと丸みがギャグっぽいだけでMAとしては落第でも十分性能あるし
    43: 2020/01/26 15:46:45 No.657973300 ▼このレスに返信
    ジオン星人のビックリどっきりメカを説明するには良いと思う
    52: 2020/01/26 15:49:49 No.657974113 ▼このレスに返信
    実際好き勝手やったせいで統合整備計画とかアホなことを戦中にやる羽目になってるしな・・・
    56: 2020/01/26 15:52:30 No.657974814 ▼このレスに返信
    >統合整備計画
    規格と量産性無視しての開発時代はさぞや面白かっただろう…
    59: 2020/01/26 15:52:58 No.657974932 ▼このレスに返信
    人的資源が足りないというのがジオン最大のネックだからね
    だからなるべく少ない人手で運用出来るようにする
    63: 2020/01/26 15:55:27 No.657975557 ▼このレスに返信
    凄そうだけど結局これで出来上がるのは水泳部軍団とかの変態MSでそして負けるからな

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/26(Sun) 22:17:16 ID:e467e7b28            ★コメ返信★

        ガンプラ工場そのまんまやんけ

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/26(Sun) 23:04:22 ID:fd7722304            ★コメ返信★

        まあ、すでに現実でもコンセプトカーや技術試験車は設計をAIが提案して取捨選択してそれを金属樹脂含めて3Dプリンターで出力しっていう、似たようなことをはじめてるからなあ・・・

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/26(Sun) 23:16:12 ID:e8cafec8b            ★コメ返信★

        つまり宇宙世紀も完全なる夢物語というわけでもないと…?

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/26(Sun) 23:29:51 ID:093661d6c            ★コメ返信★

        データが偏ってたり入力間違ってたってことだね
        使いこなせなきゃ宝の持ち腐れだこりゃ

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/26(Sun) 23:44:38 ID:7b9cf2311            ★コメ返信★

        すごいんだけどこれでジオンは水陸両用MSを…AGEシステムはタイタスを…なんかクソシステムな気がしてきた…

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/27(Mon) 00:38:30 ID:b187fc3e5            ★コメ返信★

        こんな世界観の基部レベルの設定をマンガがやってて
        それがちゃんと反映されるのか?

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/27(Mon) 01:08:45 ID:5ee39a9b7            ★コメ返信★

        公認なだけで公式じゃないから
        別に漫画で設定説明しても問題ない
        勝手にやってろって感じだろ

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/27(Mon) 01:18:17 ID:718340882            ★コメ返信★

        連邦側はどっちかと言うと拠点ごとに用途に合わせてアレンジして
        いったからバリエーションが増えたんじゃない?
        一応それぞれに大系化されてるし

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/27(Mon) 01:52:06 ID:fe9d00574            ★コメ返信★

        ダムA読む度に思うけどこの開発秘話漫画いいんか
        プラモ化のために派生機増やす他の漫画とかより根幹に触れてるわけだし
        ただでさえダムA系漫画は気軽に矛盾産んじゃうってのに

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/27(Mon) 02:02:41 ID:296108949            ★コメ返信★

        ウキウキしながらザクレロを設計して開発部に持ち込むキシリア様

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/27(Mon) 09:30:47 ID:0f20c7b54            ★コメ返信★

        利点も欠点もわりかし筋道つけて説明できるのすごいなこれ

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/27(Mon) 12:15:29 ID:86b010383            ★コメ返信★

        ※4
        砂漠とか水中とか、ジオンは元々ほとんどデータ持ってなかっただろうからなぁ
        「とりあえず確実に動くもの」を要求したら、ザクで培ったノウハウのほとんどが無視されたトンチキなものがたくさん出来上がるのも無理はない

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/27(Mon) 15:06:16 ID:3f5d7cef8            ★コメ返信★

        最終決定は人だから、使う人の意識が統一されてないとそれぞれの好みに合わせて提案、蓄積、進化するんだろうな

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/27(Mon) 21:34:52 ID:3a0da7a10            ★コメ返信★

        これってゲームにしたらまんまガンダムブレイカーやん…

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/01/28(Tue) 03:46:11 ID:f6bab7042            ★コメ返信★

        AGEは
        早くしたいブースターてんこ盛り制御?知らん
        刃こぼれが酷い?刃をデカくしたよ!制御出来ないとか知らんし
        超狙撃兵器作ったよ!え、雑音拾いすぎ?知らんし
        大概バカ兵器しか作っとらん

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/02/07(Fri) 01:03:32 ID:f18f42c14            ★コメ返信★

        何作ったところでどうせビーム1発飛んできて貫通しておしまいだからなあ

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/02/08(Sat) 21:51:52 ID:d7f14984c            ★コメ返信★

        このあたりの説得力がほんとにスバラシイ

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/02/21(Fri) 12:07:06 ID:90d0c5675            ★コメ返信★

        このシステムが発展していった結果最終的に生まれたのがお髭様だと思うと納得

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/02/22(Sat) 09:41:42 ID:0e6083457            ★コメ返信★

        ジオン水泳部が変態扱いされてるけど、考え方自体は正しいだろ?
        地球の約7割がたが海で、殆どの都市が海に面してるのに、水陸両用を考えない方がおかしい
        水自体が貴重で、あんな大量の水なんて見た事もなく生まれ育ったスペースノイドが、水陸両用型に固執するのはしゃーない

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/02/22(Sat) 21:49:47 ID:13e09ae3e            ★コメ返信★

        このマンガのタイトルがわからん

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/02/23(Sun) 18:57:58 ID:51335be84            ★コメ返信★

        連邦のジム乱立は戦争で意思の疎通が取れない中それぞれの工場で好き勝手作った結果では

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/02/25(Tue) 14:05:18 ID:425b0770e            ★コメ返信★

        戦時中ポンポンMS開発出来たジオンの後付け設定としてはありだな
        ドムとザクのバズーカわざわざ別物にしたり水陸両用無駄に作ったりやってることは意味不明だが

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/03/06(Fri) 12:48:36 ID:37fa2005b            ★コメ返信★

        スパロボBX時空だとAGEフリット編の方が一年戦争より先だから
        普通にありえそう

      24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/03/13(Fri) 07:03:04 ID:b5b975262            ★コメ返信★

        心配しなくてもアメリカ軍様が似たような研究してる

        これにもどういった方法で答えを導くか?
        っていうランダム差にある種の規則性与えてやって云々

      25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/03/17(Tue) 14:01:05 ID:ff62a6518            ★コメ返信★

        結構現実的なAIが発達してたのね。
        連邦もこれ持ってないとジムの生産に間に合わないんやけどなぁ

      26. 26. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/03/17(Tue) 14:02:14 ID:ff62a6518            ★コメ返信★

        しかしジオン共和国も中々ワルよのう

      27. 27. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/03/31(Tue) 13:44:26 ID:3539b36f0            ★コメ返信★

        原作を出した時点で無かった情報などに何も価値がない。

        企業や漫画家が食うために後付けしているから、公式・非公式に関わらず無理が生じて破綻する。

        後は、自分が正しいと言う顧客側が論争するだけ。どれも不正解で歪。

      28. 28. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/04/06(Mon) 06:20:55 ID:405dc8dfc            ★コメ返信★

        つまりスレ主が言いたいのは
        ジオンの技術者はドラえもんの
        「もちせいぞうマシン」を参考にしたって事?

      29. 29. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/04/15(Wed) 19:28:28 ID:d50644b46            ★コメ返信★

        AGEシステムはある程度人の要望を入力出来るっぽいけど基本今のAGEシステム積んだ機体とパイロット及び敵・戦場に合わせて生物の進化過程の理論的な物を利用して勝手に適した物を設計製作する物だったはずだから比較対象にするのはなんか違うと思う(人が欲する物を作るのか勝手に一定環境に適した物が勝手に出て来るかの違いかな?)

      30. 30. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/04/24(Fri) 21:43:37 ID:496f1acfe            ★コメ返信★

        AGEシステムは「敵の装甲抜ける武器」をオーダーしただけでドッズライフル出してくるからな。このシステムだと技術者が「ビームを回転させて貫通力を上げる」アイデアを思いつかないと作れないでしょ

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