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    1: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:31:39▼このレスに返信

    キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!!
    3: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:35:39▼このレスに返信
    反骨の精神が形になったかのようだ
    4: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:37:14▼このレスに返信
    デカイ
    速い
    強い
    6: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:38:45▼このレスに返信
    18mでもカントクがいやーデカすぎたわーってなるのに
    7: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:39:08▼このレスに返信
    ビームライフルの初速が倍になった!
    サイコミュ装備になった!
    自力で単独飛行出来るようになった!
    ビーム・バリアーが使えるようになった!
    10: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:40:23▼このレスに返信
    >7
    MAでいいよね?
    77: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:17:27▼このレスに返信
    MAでいいだろっていってもこれ以前にマッハで地上飛べるMAが存在してたわけでもないしMS形状のほうが都合よかったからそうなっただけだしね
    82: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:18:23▼このレスに返信
    ペーネロペー共々デカいだけの性能はあるというか
    連邦もこんなスペック要求して何に使うつもりだったんだ
    86: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:18:46▼このレスに返信
    >82
    出来るならとりあえずやってみ?みたいな感じじゃない?
    9: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:39:53▼このレスに返信
    これ以上デカいガンダムは宇宙世紀で出てこないんだろうな
    11: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:40:56▼このレスに返信
    >9
    サイコガンダム…
    12: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:42:21▼このレスに返信
    サイコガンダムもバリアーみたいなの張ってたけど
    あれは設定上実弾防げないんだったか
    51: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:09:44▼このレスに返信
    >12
    サイコのIフィールドじゃ多分実弾はまだ弾けない
    ターンエー辺りだと機体Iフィールドで動かしてるし実弾までねじ曲げると思うけど
    14: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:44:15▼このレスに返信
    ペロペロペーくんも相当デカい
    しかもサイコくんと違って奥行きがある
    8: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:39:46▼このレスに返信
    よくここからVまで小型化できたな
    時代も製造元も違うとはいえ
    22: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:55:40▼このレスに返信
    >8
    Vまで行かなくても年表的にはヘビーガンがわりとすぐ登場するのが凄いと思う
    24: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:57:36▼このレスに返信
    >8
    素材やなんかの根本的な技術開発をろくにしないままあれもこれもと盛り付けていくからこんな事になる
    26: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:58:09▼このレスに返信
    単体で強襲するコンセプトだから内蔵火器マシマシでサイズ膨れ上がるのは仕方ない部分ある
    41: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:06:10▼このレスに返信
    ミサイルとミノクラ外せば小さくできるかな
    ミノクラがどんななのか分からんけど
    44: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:07:43▼このレスに返信
    ミノクラは文中で小型軽量と言及されてるから
    全身のミサイルランチャーと全身のビーム・バリアーと頭部サイコミュブロック外せばかなり小型化出来そう
    27: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:59:18▼このレスに返信
    多分これ絶対にこのサイズじゃないとダメなんじゃなくて本気出せばZZサイズくらいで収まってんだろうね…
    33: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:02:57▼このレスに返信
    ファンネルミサイルって死ぬほどコスパ悪そうなイメージあるけどどうなんだろ
    ファンネルだと変態相手にしない限り使い回し効くし
    64: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:13:17▼このレスに返信
    >33
    ファンネルって撃ったら使い捨てが主流で戻してチャージできるのの方が少なくなかったっけ
    83: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:18:24▼このレスに返信
    基本再充電不可な設定だったよねファンネル
    あと確実に当てられるミサイルだとするならコスパ悪いなんてことはない
    MS本体より安ければ最低限トントン以上だし
    66: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:14:17▼このレスに返信
    ファンネルとかよりビーム・バリアーが超性能過ぎない?
    76: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:17:01▼このレスに返信
    >66
    超音速でミサイルばらまけるしラジコンみたいに軽々飛べるから近接戦も強い
    62: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:12:44▼このレスに返信
    右は戦略爆撃機みたいなもんなのでむしろよくこの大きさに収まったなと
    23: 名無し 2020/07/25 20:56:57▼このレスに返信
    やっぱ恐竜的な大型進化は宿命…
    50: 名無し 2020/07/25 21:09:39▼このレスに返信
    恐竜的進化の袋小路とはよく言ったものである

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 20:15:31 ID:3c66736f5            ★コメ返信★

        28mのクスィーが80tで19mのプロトタイプサイコが130tという摩訶不思議設定

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 20:22:04 ID:48e2d3261            ★コメ返信★

        小型のビットにアレコレ複雑なの積むより火薬積んでミサイルとしてぶち当てる方が結局コスパ良さそうなの分かりやすい火力に帰ってきた感じで好き

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 20:38:00 ID:a2869f796            ★コメ返信★

        10階建のビルと同程度の高さか…
        整備しようと思えばハンガーじゃなくてドックが必要だな。

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 20:39:17 ID:5584689d1            ★コメ返信★

        小説書いた頃はまだ小型MSなんて設定無かったし

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 20:40:58 ID:4a6e08a96            ★コメ返信★

        ビームバリアは全周ビームシールドではない
        空気抵抗軽減用で平均以上の攻撃は防げない

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 20:42:03 ID:f92fd4054            ★コメ返信★

        人間的なシルエットが敵に与えるプレッシャーがどうのこうの

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 20:48:05 ID:3c66736f5            ★コメ返信★

        クスィーのビームバリヤーはビームに対しほぼ完ぺきな防御力って設定だぞ

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 21:24:07 ID:57c7d19ee            ★コメ返信★

        こんなん実際に作っちゃったら『これ、運用困るやん・・・母艦にどうやって積むん?』てなって小型化へ舵を切りたくもなるわ

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 21:26:08 ID:80b2fc7fe            ★コメ返信★

        F-15が20mもあってB-17は僅か22m
        大きいことは良いことだ(棒)

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 21:27:58 ID:5e03c947d            ★コメ返信★

        分離も出来ないし母艦を作るとしたら完全新規だな

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 21:59:16 ID:2c19a5074            ★コメ返信★

        つっても恐竜とてデカくなるばかりの進化じゃなかったからなぁ
        色んな方向へ進化した結果、現に小型のやつは生き残れた訳だし

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 22:27:24 ID:5e03c947d            ★コメ返信★

        ※11
        鳥類が恐竜の子孫だしな

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 22:48:26 ID:7b8e2cb09            ★コメ返信★

        ファンネルをミサイルに!?
        って思うからなんか勿体なく思えるだけ
        ミサイルの誘導装置をサイコミュに置き換えてミノ粉で使えなくなった精密誘導ミサイルをミノ粉戦闘濃度下でも使えますよ、って思えばすっごい良いものに感じるだろ?
        それと現実のミサイルも一発数千万はするぞ。ラムジェット対艦ミサイルとか億するんじゃね?
        それ使ってブチ転がす対象が数十億とか数百億とか数千億するもんだからペイできるってだけだ

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/15(Mon) 23:30:55 ID:0263f8d11            ★コメ返信★

        まぁクスィーの方は母艦必要なほど使ってないから…
        ペネロペは知らん

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/16(Tue) 04:43:34 ID:f973ab9b1            ★コメ返信★

        サイコ・ガンダムの完成系なのにMSに分類されてる謎の機体

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/16(Tue) 05:20:56 ID:71798af9d            ★コメ返信★

        サイコの完成形なんて設定あったっけ…

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/16(Tue) 05:34:33 ID:f973ab9b1            ★コメ返信★

        ※16
        すまんwサイコミュ・ユニット詰んでる大型MSだから、
        サイコガンダムの完成系って俺が勝手に言ってるだけなんで忘れてくれ

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/16(Tue) 06:19:31 ID:73c23c0d6            ★コメ返信★

        >MAでいいだろっていってもこれ以前にマッハで地上飛べるMAが存在してたわけでもないし
        アッシマー…

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/16(Tue) 07:56:40 ID:c35ebc0ae            ★コメ返信★

        デカすぎ君をMSかMAに分類するかだけの違いしかないと思うんだが

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/16(Tue) 13:06:31 ID:2082ac156            ★コメ返信★

        >>1
        リック・ディアスはあのガタイで本体重量32.2t全備重量54.7tという驚きの軽さ
        MSの設定で一番むちゃくちゃなのは重量だと思う

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/16(Tue) 16:13:16 ID:cdec35057            ★コメ返信★

        デンドロビウムもナラティブA装備もMSの範疇だし(白目)

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/16(Tue) 17:02:56 ID:394f6cddd            ★コメ返信★

        そう思われてたから「MSの小型化」に着手したサナリィ製のMSが持ち上げられだしたんじゃないの?

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/16(Tue) 21:33:05 ID:eccad17dd            ★コメ返信★

        もったいなくはないんじゃないかな
        ミサイルなのに思った通りに精密誘導
        更には下手すると迎撃をかわしてスルスルとブチ当たってくるとか
        割と悪夢である

      24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/05(Mon) 06:47:26 ID:ef314a0e7            ★コメ返信★

        人型じゃないとプラモ売れないんですよ!

      25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/14(Wed) 18:29:42 ID:f1e819fef            ★コメ返信★

        やっぱ並べると、艦艇や建物に入らねーじゃねーか小さくしろやオラァ!!ってキレられるよなって納得できるわw

      26. 26. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/29(Thu) 15:10:58 ID:1731b93e2            ★コメ返信★

        ファンネルミサイルとかさズサみたいなMSに大量に積んで戦場まで来てもらって
        それを遠隔で操るみたいな事できないのかね

      27. 27. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/29(Thu) 15:19:11 ID:1731b93e2            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        単純にサイコミュシステムが重いのでは?

      28. 28. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/05/13(Thu) 21:32:28 ID:0ee281929            ★コメ返信★

        うん、いやさ、だから小型化していくんじゃないか
        作品的には最新作でも原作は30年以上前だし
        年代的にはF91よりもVガンよりも前の時代だろ?
        こういうの説明するの、最近なんか不毛な気持ちになるわ

      29. 29. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/07/01(Thu) 16:47:48 ID:6ad930810            ★コメ返信★

        ファンネルミサイルって弾速遅いんかな?
        見て誘導で当たるぐらいの旋回半径ってどんなもんなんだろう。
        重力下で普通のファンネルぐらい直角に曲がるんかね

      30. 30. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/07/28(Wed) 03:14:19 ID:43d218b84            ★コメ返信★

        >記事51
        IFBDはIフィールドで形成したビームの梁で機体を動かすシステムだし、実弾防ぐのはビームバリアじゃないかな

      31. 31. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/03/25(Fri) 01:36:13 ID:0dea03e58            ★コメ返信★

        ※3
        ビグザムやサザビー並みのデカさだしドッグが妥当と思う

      32. 32. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/03/25(Fri) 01:39:43 ID:0dea03e58            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        クスィーってフライトユニット外したら意外と軽いんじゃないの? 知らんけど

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