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    【ガンダム】宇宙世紀に阿頼耶識システムがあったらどれぐらい強いのかな?



    1: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:01:29▼このレスに返信

    もし宇宙世紀ガンダムに阿頼耶識システムがあったら
    5: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:08:16▼このレスに返信
    成功率低いけど強化人間と違って精神不安定にならないし割と受け入れられると思う
    17: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:27:41▼このレスに返信
    >5
    これやってるやつ元からおかしいんじゃない
    7: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:13:57▼このレスに返信
    > 成功率低いけど
    成功率低いのは劣悪な環境での手術のせいで、本来はとても安全な手術って設定だから重宝されるんじゃね?
    しかも宇宙世紀だと体に機械埋め込むことへの忌避感もないし
    8: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:14:36▼このレスに返信
    劣化強化人間
    10: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:17:58▼このレスに返信
    >8
    頭おかしくない強化人間を量産出来るんだから荒屋敷の方が上だろ
    18: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:27:42▼このレスに返信
    >10
    廃人量産してるからなぁ…
    人が安いからポンポン作れるわけでどっちも最低のシステムよ
    28: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:39:07▼このレスに返信
    なんか宇宙ネズミがつけてる阿頼耶識と
    マッキーがやった正規品の阿頼耶識が一緒くたになってるな
    29: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:40:13▼このレスに返信
    ミカァとかの阿頼耶識は技術がちゃんと継承されなかっただけだよね?
    31: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:41:04▼このレスに返信
    >29
    だいたいあってる
    2: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:05:26▼このレスに返信
    こちらお客様のご要望にお答えして御作りしましたサイコザクとなります
    4: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:07:16▼このレスに返信
    >2
    手足切らないとダメな奴じゃん!
    3: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:06:19▼このレスに返信
    バイオコンピューターとかってその類なのでしょう?
    19: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:27:45▼このレスに返信
    >3
    サイコミュは全部そう
    直接つなぐかどうかの差
    6: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:11:24▼このレスに返信
    リユースサイコデバイスとアラヤシキどっちが嫌かな
    …どっちも嫌かなぁ
    80: 名無し 2020/04/18 09:34:43▼このレスに返信
    強化人間に阿頼耶識を積んだら超兵士が誕生しそう
    25: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:36:39▼このレスに返信
    宇宙世紀なら10本くらい生えてる女パイロットがお出しされる
    27: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:38:37▼このレスに返信
    >25
    あの辺の露悪趣味野郎はガンダムに何を見てきたんだろう…
    88: 名無し 2020/04/18 09:47:56▼このレスに返信
    でも阿頼耶識ってホントに凄い技術だと思うよ
    高度計とか速度計とか距離計とか燃料計とかタッチパネル使った武器の選択とか
    「文字使わないでどうやって理解するの?」って機械のコンディションが文盲にも感覚で理解できるんでしょう?
    39: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:53:29▼このレスに返信
    阿頼耶識よりもナノラミネートアーマーの方が宇宙世紀では脅威
    41: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:55:47▼このレスに返信
    >39
    ごんぶとビームまともに食らってあっちぃで済むの脅威過ぎる
    じゃけんガンダムハンマーで殴るね・・・
    42: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:55:52▼このレスに返信
    >39
    Gジェネやってると雑魚からして耐ビーム持ちなのが鬱陶しいことこの上ない
    49: 名無し 2020/04/18 09:06:48▼このレスに返信
    ナノラミネートは熱に弱いくせにビームに強いのが謎すぎる
    ビームサーベルは効きそうだけど鉄血世界にビームサーベル持ちっていたっけ?
    54: 名無し 2020/04/18 09:13:01▼このレスに返信
    >49
    いない
    あの世界に現存するビーム持ちはハシュマルだけ
    99: 名無し 2020/04/18 09:59:17▼このレスに返信
    ビームについては鉄血のも描写上熱はあるようだし
    ナノラミネートアーマーはなんか反射してるようだから
    宇宙世紀のが効くとは限らんぞ
    104: 名無し 2020/04/18 10:01:30▼このレスに返信
    >99
    お前ナパームでナノラミ剥げるって言うビスケットデブの発言否定するの?
    110: 名無し 2020/04/18 10:03:09▼このレスに返信
    >104
    食らい続けると危ないとは言った
    ナパーム一発でダメになるとは言ってない
    114: 名無し 2020/04/18 10:05:32▼このレスに返信
    >110
    ちなみに鉄血パイロットは回避しないから当て続ければナノラミ抜けるぞ
    60: 名無し 2020/04/18 09:15:44▼このレスに返信
    鉄血見てると宇宙世紀のMS挙動が遅いから勝てるのか
    92: 名無し 2020/04/18 09:52:25▼このレスに返信
    >60
    代わりに鉄血MSはパイロットが回避しない上にナノラミネートアーマーは熱に弱いので
    宇宙世紀のビーム(高圧縮して高温になったミノフスキー粒子)で撃てば当たって終わる
    74: 名無し 2020/04/18 09:31:35▼このレスに返信
    終盤のロートルと化したガンダムで指ビームの間通り抜けるアムロがちょっと動きが早いだけのMSに負けるイメージがない
    30: 名無し 2020/04/18 08:40:54▼このレスに返信
    結局はオカルトパワー次第

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 12:39:06 ID:218ae707e            ★コメ返信★

        ナノラミネートアーマーは鏡面装甲だから光線弾くけどナパームで溶けるんじゃないの?

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 13:07:39 ID:cc72879ad            ★コメ返信★

        阿頼耶識はモビルワーカーみたいなのでも操縦者に差があってミカはすげえよなってたけど
        リユースサイコデバイスは雑魚兵でもそれなりに使えてたり、傷痍軍人でもすぐに使えてたりするし
        システムとして阿頼耶識って人選びすぎじゃないかな

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 13:13:44 ID:366a4ffaa            ★コメ返信★

        阿頼耶識の話しからいつも水掛け論になってて草
        なんで鉄血の世界の住人が異世界転移してくるんだよ

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 13:16:05 ID:366a4ffaa            ★コメ返信★

        ※2
        あれって個人じゃなくで劣化阿頼耶識の施術回数の差じゃないのか?

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 13:23:25 ID:bf7d4faea            ★コメ返信★

        仰向けに寝たら敷き布団がズタボロになりそうっていつも思う

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 13:58:20 ID:dda431f2e            ★コメ返信★

        アナザーの中でも特に内容が酷い鉄血の糞システムの話なんかするな。
        議題にさえしないで欲しいわ。

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 14:06:43 ID:366a4ffaa            ★コメ返信★

        ※6
        見なけりゃいいのに
        こんな情報社会の時代で自衛すら出来ないのか…

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 14:16:40 ID:861fad508            ★コメ返信★

        ※7
        日頃から周囲の人間に虐げられていることへの不満をぶつける対象が欲しいたけの小さいヤツなんや。
        そっとしといたって。

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 14:42:17 ID:2f1722f65            ★コメ返信★

        Z以降だと脳波コントロールするシステムがちらほらあるからな
        人間側にハードウェア追加するシステムはよっぽどな奴じゃないと

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 19:12:40 ID:39fef4fef            ★コメ返信★

        熱に弱いというか継続的に衝撃なり熱なりを受けることで塗装が剥がれるのがマズいのであって
        瞬間的にビームが当たる程度なら全然余裕なのがナノラミネートアーマー
        それと鉄血世界のナパームは宇宙空間でもある程度燃え続けるほどヤベー代物
        というのを全く理解してないのが結構な割合でいるんだよな

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 19:57:22 ID:016891d10            ★コメ返信★

        >>10
        焼夷弾でも燃料と酸化剤をいっしょにしてれば真空中でも燃えるから別にやばい物でも何でもないぞ

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 20:01:19 ID:016891d10            ★コメ返信★

        ※4
        描写的に無茶した時に使用者の脳や神経系に負荷がかかってる描写があるから、間違いなく個人による適性の差はあると思う

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 20:30:15 ID:3c960f778            ★コメ返信★

        レバーボタンペダルで人型兵器で動かせるのに神経つなぐ意味は?

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 22:18:54 ID:d1087f5fc            ★コメ返信★

        寝る時背中痛くないんかな?

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/04(Sun) 23:43:47 ID:63b5d365f            ★コメ返信★

        小説にサザビーは『思ったように動かせる』そーだからサイコミュとどっこいどっこいなんじゃね。

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/05(Mon) 06:29:37 ID:9805797f9            ★コメ返信★

        アムロって予知的な能力だからレバー操作でも余裕で阿頼耶識倒すぞ
        単純に強化人間等の方がファンネルも動かせるので必要無い
        ダインスレイブ数発で全滅した規模の低いテロリストでは実弾兵器叩きこまれて終わりかと
        鉄血はあくまでも少人数のタイマン

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/05(Mon) 15:21:15 ID:3629edac2            ★コメ返信★

        一年戦争末期のジオンは学徒兵が多くてゲルググを使いこなせなかったって言うけど
        そこに阿頼耶識があったら・・・・結局ザビ家の内輪もめでだめか。

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/06(Tue) 12:43:50 ID:8511df175            ★コメ返信★

        設定的にニュータイプとは違う、チート能力の定義だから
        ニュータイプと同じぐらい
        あるいは強化人間程度の能力と思った方がいい

        っていうかこういう意味の無い問答って
        なんでしたがるのかわからない

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/07(Wed) 07:29:30 ID:5af6dfebd            ★コメ返信★

        車をハンドルで運転するか脳みそ直結で運転するかの違い
        超精密な動作も可能
        ハンドルで運転するとどうしても脳みそ直結の場合と比べて遅れるからね

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/09(Fri) 13:16:16 ID:2637042d3            ★コメ返信★

        ※13
        レバーボタンペダル操作するより早く動かせる
        リュースサイコデバイスもそうだけど神経接続すればMSがそのまま身体の延長線上になるからその分反応速度が速くなる

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/14(Wed) 23:49:58 ID:518d6c8f0            ★コメ返信★

        ミカはおかしいけどナデシコ世界のIFSと同じでイメージ伝達が円滑になるていどなんかなとおもってる。

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/06/15(Tue) 07:53:43 ID:57ad6493c            ★コメ返信★

        ビーム兵器が通じるのだから戦法しだいで一般兵でも勝てる、キュピンときて殺気を感じて躱せるニュータイプのほうがアドバンテージ高いだろ。

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/07/12(Mon) 15:09:41 ID:408909ea7            ★コメ返信★

        実際には阿頼耶識を有効的に反映させることの出来るMSフレームでなければ、それほど意味がないと思う。。

      24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/02(Mon) 02:16:02 ID:f2a2644c6            ★コメ返信★

        弱くはないけど操縦系統としてはそのうち消えそう…って感じ。
        むしろ医療や教育技術への応用に派生していきそうかな

      25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/11/11(Thu) 05:03:32 ID:c275e04b2            ★コメ返信★

        ──下手な人が阿頼耶臓を付けても変わらない

        ──阿頼耶識システムについてですが、 分かりやすくガンダム的な考え方をすると強 化人間的な捉え方になるのでしょうか?

        長井 ニュータイプや強化人間とは違いますね。 主人公が強い理由付けのための設定 でもあるのですが、 阿願耶議はもともとモビルスーツをストレスなく動かすためのもの。 機械を自分の身体の延長として、 感覚 的に使えるようになるシステムです。 察知 能力が上がったり、 視野が広くなるわけではないです。 基本的にこの世界のモビルスーツはパイロットの身体能力、 操縦技術に依存するので、 その能力がない人が阿頼耶論を付けたところで、 動きが生身のように滑らかになるだけで、 戦いが下手なこと には変わりないです。 だから三日月や昭弘の筋トレも無駄ではないんですよ。

        悪くはないが、強化人間よりメリットはない。

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