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    1: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:34:59.46 ID:+XPP3CI20.net▼このレスに返信
    こんなんええんか…
    3: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:35:50.46 ID:DgiBnMHt0.net▼このレスに返信
    まだまだ増えるぞ
    5: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:36:50.74 ID:LKaiI45Md.net▼このレスに返信
    そいつら同士で強弱決めてるうちは別にええわ
    12: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:37:56.57 ID:OC/W1pDN0.net▼このレスに返信
    ガンダム知らんけどこういう後付け萎えるよな
    キン肉マンもあとからあの超人は本当はこんなに強かったとかそんなんばっか
    162: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:59:17.74 ID:cnAzkDb8a.net▼このレスに返信
    >>12
    キン肉マンでそんなことあったか?
    16: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:39:25.76 ID:zHTgW2Tzd.net▼このレスに返信
    シャアが強かったのは敵にMSが存在しなかった時代だけやんけ
    27: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:41:32.04 ID:oeLT0RCL0.net▼このレスに返信
    >>16
    ホワイトベースに絡まなきゃ鬼のような戦果の連続だったろうけどな
    26: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:41:30.63 ID:bYzhAYiH0.net▼このレスに返信
    シャアに強い時期なんてあったか?
    36: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:42:35.74 ID:0qB9Zc470.net▼このレスに返信
    >>26
    ルウム戦役で戦艦ボコボコにしたやろ
    29: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:41:40.95 ID:rzbBKhqFp.net▼このレスに返信
    陸ガン小隊相手に無双してたノリスとかラルじゃなくてこいつWB隊にぶつけてたら余裕だったんちゃう?って思うわ
    31: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:42:17.23 ID:c0ZttHjEp.net▼このレスに返信
    シャアとアムロで何人ザビ家殺したと思ってるんや
    そんなキャラほかにおらんやろ
    46: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:45:35.56 ID:+XPP3CI20.net▼このレスに返信
    これが1年戦争の撃墜数ランキングな
    69: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:48:50.01 ID:pNLNGweTa.net▼このレスに返信
    >>46
    ジオンにそんなMS量産する国力あったんですかねぇ…
    81: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:51:03.50 ID:CE9RIqFm0.net▼このレスに返信
    >>46
    途中までMSほとんど無かった連邦の非撃墜数こんな多いわけないやろ…
    83: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:51:07.17 ID:/KFrsWDRr.net▼このレスに返信
    >>46
    ジオンのランキング入りしてるヤツらってアムロと遭遇しなかっただけの運が良かった雑魚狩り連中やろ?
    アムロと遭遇してたら一戦で撃墜やろ
    355: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 12:14:56.00 ID:8DL3Uqkd0.net▼このレスに返信
    >>46
    いろんなとこ転戦しまくってたウォルフはまあわかるけどユングはね…
    61: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:47:38.45 ID:dhJBhLCtd.net▼このレスに返信
    >>46
    アムロ捏造されてるらしいってマジ?
    72: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:49:17.90 ID:PI3b2EnMd.net▼このレスに返信
    >>61
    アムロじゃなくてユングが存在しないパイロット説のが有力やろ
    82: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:51:06.31 ID:FbPqkgFH0.net▼このレスに返信
    >>72
    ワイはテネス=ヤザン説を支持したい
    97: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:53:15.97 ID:9ExaAPO+d.net▼このレスに返信
    >>82
    降格しとるやん
    135: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:56:58.33 ID:FbPqkgFH0.net▼このレスに返信
    >>97
    そらあの素行の悪さじゃ降ろされてもしゃーないやん?実力主義のティターンズではイキイキよ。顔つきも似てるし声優も大塚さんやし

    95: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:53:12.58 ID:dhJBhLCtd.net▼このレスに返信
    つかジオンの撃墜数のが謎やろ
    ジムってあれめちゃくちゃ強いのに150とか落とせるか?
    110: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 11:54:37.51 ID:6iE17Ys10.net▼このレスに返信
    >>95
    ボール落としたんやろ
    MAもM Sでカウントしとる卑怯もんや
    191: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 12:02:45.05 ID:R3nrzF+B0.net▼このレスに返信
    実は他でもガンダム作ってました←これやめろ
    195: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 12:03:23.90 ID:bpFjUSED0.net▼このレスに返信
    >>191
    アレックスとピクシーとかいうよう分からん奴ら
    200: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 12:03:42.18 ID:pNLNGweTa.net▼このレスに返信
    >>191
    アムロにピクシー渡ってたらブチ切れてまた出奔しそう
    213: 風吹けば名無し 2021/07/31(土) 12:04:41.23 ID:FbPqkgFH0.net▼このレスに返信
    >>191
    ガンダム界特有の試作機ならOKという風潮ほんとやめろ

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 18:09:17 ID:875d85a87            ★コメ返信★

        >記事135
        戦後色々あって整形して名も変えたと言われたら、何となく納得する

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 18:14:22 ID:d85fcf324            ★コメ返信★

        そもそもそのスコア事態同人みたいな物が適当に書いたのがうっかり公式に近いのに拾われて収集付かなくなってしまったのが原因だしな

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 18:22:08 ID:9a3b58284            ★コメ返信★

        同人ノリを公式化してしまった故ってのはあるけれど、MSの構造的に腕とか脚とかの単位でユニット化されてて、腕吹っ飛ぶ>その時点での戦果は撃破になるけど次の戦闘では腕をユニット交換で修理されて戦線復帰ってなって、生産数以上の撃破数とかはあり得ると思う。
        ってーか、中東戦争でのイスラエル軍なんかが正にそれで、撃破された戦車から部品取りしてニコイチで復帰させたりしている。

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 18:28:03 ID:dc6ccf025            ★コメ返信★

        ジョニーライデンの帰還でシャアがジョニーとヤザン相手に無双したの無視してる奴らって哀れだよね
        その二人と戦う前にキマイラ隊とジョニーの偽物と戦ったけどシャアが勝ってたしな

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 18:31:39 ID:dc6ccf025            ★コメ返信★

        ※4
        しかも未調整な機体で勝ってるからなシャアぶっちゃけアムロいなかったら本編もシャア無双で終わったかもしれん

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 18:43:39 ID:dc6ccf025            ★コメ返信★

        ベルチルでアムロはシャアに終始圧倒されて最終的に殺されかけたけど赤ちゃんバリアで助かった雑魚って事になるよねベルチルが嫌われてる理由の一つだけど

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 18:53:56 ID:2f96bef04            ★コメ返信★

        ※6
        嫌いも何も、そもそもベルチルは明確にチン毛>Hi-νという設定があるし

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 18:55:14 ID:3ff28d5db            ★コメ返信★

        >記事81
        一応ボールはMSに分類されるからそれをカウントしてるんじゃないのかな

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 19:05:33 ID:dc6ccf025            ★コメ返信★

        ※7
        シャアアンチはそれが気に食わんのやろ機体差があってもシャアがアムロボコるとかありえんって思っとるんじゃね

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 19:18:53 ID:dc6ccf025            ★コメ返信★

        撃破数で強さランキング決めると最弱はお前らが大好きランバラルか三連星かガデムかかなる違うかもしれんがマクベがシャアに負けたクソ雑魚って事になるけどいいのか

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 19:44:20 ID:2f96bef04            ★コメ返信★

        ※9
        めんどくせぇな、アンチだの信者だの言って恥ずかしくないんか

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 19:46:46 ID:875d85a87            ★コメ返信★

        なんかここで必死に力説してる人ってすごいコンプレックス抱えてそう。

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 19:52:20 ID:dc6ccf025            ★コメ返信★

        ※11
        それがガノタやからしゃあない

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 19:55:21 ID:34b886b2f            ★コメ返信★

        設定では一年戦争で連邦4000機ぐらいしかMS作ってない且つ全機落とされたわけでないのに
        ジオンエース8人で1000機以上落としてるとか戦果が多すぎだよ...

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 20:02:36 ID:7d333c20f            ★コメ返信★

        後付けは全部二次創作の同人だ

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 20:05:29 ID:b7521643b            ★コメ返信★

        ※9
        それ以前に映像を基準に小説を語るなら、ファーストでアムロは死んでるしZでカミーユは狂わないし逆シャアでアムロはベルトーチカと続いていて子持ちになってる出鱈目具合から、シャアが無双してても不思議ではない

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 20:12:23 ID:3ff28d5db            ★コメ返信★

        ※10
        こういう非公式設定を引っ張り出す奴らはそれが望みなんじゃないのかな
        アムロ下げやシャア下げと同じで人気作品の人気キャラを腐すことで悦に入るタイプ

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 20:28:41 ID:e5df6a669            ★コメ返信★

        ※14
        戦闘機もMSとしてカウントしてんじゃねぇか?

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 21:14:19 ID:ffb777931            ★コメ返信★

        より強いなんて解釈に悪意があるわ
        直接対戦のない別リーグの撃墜数なだけやもん
        だいたい今現在優勝回数で白鵬を大横綱とか最強とか
        本気で思ってるやつなんておらんやろそういうことや

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/01(Sun) 21:36:46 ID:081adc485            ★コメ返信★

        そもそもMSこんなに作られてないだろ

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/02(Mon) 00:38:02 ID:857c67baf            ★コメ返信★

        >記事29
        ノリスは最強のパイロットだからな
        アムロもホワイトベースも余裕で落とせるけど
        そんな事はしないで義に殉じる真の侍だからいいんだよ

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/02(Mon) 04:01:51 ID:04978b230            ★コメ返信★

        >>18
        ジョニーライデンなんてGM量産化で一番スコア稼げる12月に後方に下げられてたからねえ(シャアがキシリアを裏切った時にシャアを倒すため集められたキマイラ部隊は後方待機)
        どう考えてもMSをこんなに撃破出来るわけない
        シャアがドズル配下からキシリア配下に移籍する前に撃破数を稼いだとしたら戦闘機だろう

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/02(Mon) 05:05:07 ID:9ad7d0e40            ★コメ返信★

        ジオンの方の撃墜数のMS?宙空機なんじゃね?
        ジムの稼働時期が短いのにそんなにいかねえよ

      24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/02(Mon) 07:14:58 ID:6c5821065            ★コメ返信★

        どんなに劇中で活躍して、間接的に超えたと思われていようとも。
        アムロやシャアに会った時点で軽く撃ち落とされるからヘーキヘーキ

        外伝の中でヤバそうなのは漫画のサンダーボルトとブルーディスティニーくらいかな

      25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/02(Mon) 08:00:06 ID:3fa4e1619            ★コメ返信★

        1年戦争時のスコア出してんのにベルチルがどうのとか、ホント面倒くさい奴らよな。
        リアルでそういうズレたこと言って腫れ物扱いされてるコミュ障いるわ

        あと非公式設定にマジになる奴。
        いい加減、大人になろうよ

      26. 26. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/02(Mon) 08:45:10 ID:f60218c9e            ★コメ返信★

        ※23
        IGLOOのセモペンテ隊みたいに宇宙でも鹵獲ザクで戦ってる部隊がいたのかも

      27. 27. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/02(Mon) 12:56:34 ID:d11ff6287            ★コメ返信★

        外伝系のゲームでアムロシャアと遭遇した時は滅茶苦茶な強さで味方部隊瞬殺されるからアムロシャアが設定上最強だというのは揺るぎないと思うぞ

      28. 28. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/03(Tue) 03:31:03 ID:e7bd09a6a            ★コメ返信★

        ジムの実戦投入から三カ月程度で終戦しててMS戦の発生自体が相当に少ないはずだからなー
        アムロの劇中スコアは別として他のキャラは1/10ぐらいにしたらリアルじゃねえかな

      29. 29. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/03(Tue) 17:41:07 ID:4155cd986            ★コメ返信★

        マジでそんな感じの描写したのEXAくらいでしょ
        他のはなんだかんだ接待路線

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