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【Ζガンダム】バーザムってすごいマイナーだったと思うんだけどいつからこんな人気になったの？

1: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:10:11▼このレスに返信

バーザムってすごいマイナー機体だったと思うけどいつから人気出たの？

2: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:16:57▼このレスに返信

人気無かったみたいだな

4: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:20:18▼このレスに返信

海外でも大人気なんですけど？

6: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:23:54▼このレスに返信

Ζだけじゃ好きになる理由ないよね

12: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:32:44▼このレスに返信

>6
AOZのフリージアン小隊で

8: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:25:58▼このレスに返信

TR計画の集大成の次期主力機がバーザムであるということは知っているな？

9: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:27:46▼このレスに返信

>8
ああ

57: 名無し 2022/01/16 01:06:44▼このレスに返信

AOZの話はいらない

62: 名無し 2022/01/16 01:08:51▼このレスに返信

>57
AOZほど真面目にバーザムについて語ってくれてる公式作品ないのに…

24: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:48:35▼このレスに返信

なんか最近猛烈な勢いで設定盛られてない？

28: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:51:30▼このレスに返信

>24
ドラムフレーム組み込んだTR計画の集大成だな

11: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:31:01▼このレスに返信

割と真面目に昔から好きだっていう人もいることは忘れないでほしい

13: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:33:35▼このレスに返信

俺は当時コミックボンボンの近藤和久連載のΖに出て来た時から好きだったよ

10: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:29:16▼このレスに返信

個人的には頭のみ格好いいと素直に思う
ムーブメントとしてはひとえにザムコラだろう

19: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:40:36▼このレスに返信

きゃあ
こんなにあるの!

21: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:43:26▼このレスに返信

>19
コレがないぞ

25: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:49:42▼このレスに返信

>19
コレもないか

27: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:51:12▼このレスに返信

バーザムカスタムとはハイバーザムとかバーザムキャノンとか
色々想像は尽きない

40: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:56:20▼このレスに返信

>27
陸戦や海戦や鹵獲は出た

14: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:34:22▼このレスに返信

少しはMk-IIに寄せろよって昔から思ってる

22: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:43:26▼このレスに返信

>14
そもそもMk-Ⅱの量産機って設定自体が番組終了後にどこからともなく生えてきたモノなので

16: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:35:13▼このレスに返信

もともとMk2無関係だからとばっちりすぎる

23: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:46:47▼このレスに返信

> そもそもMk-Ⅱの量産機って設定自体が番組終了後にどこからともなく生えてきたモノなので
サンライズオフィシャル設定だったと思う
どこの本で初めて出た記述かはわからんけど

87: 名無し 2022/01/16 02:24:55▼このレスに返信

>23
何？バーザムはMk-Ⅱの量産型ではないのか？

26: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:51:02▼このレスに返信

正直マークII云々は気にしないに限る

31: 名無し 2022/01/16 00:52:30▼このレスに返信

というかティターンズ主導でMK-IIの後に作ったスタンダードな量産機ってのがバーザムしかいないんで
結果的に直系の後継機ってことになってる気はする

58: 名無し 2022/01/16 01:06:58▼このレスに返信

一口にバーザムといっても色んなザムがいるからな
皆心にザムをもっているのだろう

61: 名無し 2022/01/16 01:08:46▼このレスに返信

>58
ザムザザーは異世界転生したバーザムの子孫だよね

63: 名無し 2022/01/16 01:09:14▼このレスに返信

>61
ザムしか繋がりがないのだが

64: 名無し 2022/01/16 01:10:22▼このレスに返信

>61
じゃあゲルズゲーはゲルググの子孫か

67: 名無し 2022/01/16 01:11:42▼このレスに返信

んなこといったらバーザムの起源がビクザムになってまう

70: 名無し 2022/01/16 01:13:53▼このレスに返信

ザムってビグザムやアッザムと同じでジオニックの名前だよな
なのに開発したの地球連邦ってどういうことだよ

79: 名無し 2022/01/16 01:27:37▼このレスに返信

俺の中でバーザムはゲシュタルト崩壊ってワードと結びつきつつある

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 10:17:48 ID：79736291e ★コメ返信★

当時のアニメ雑誌の時点でMk-Ⅱの量産云々はあったらしいが

デザインの時にそういうつもりでデザインしたわけじゃないそうで
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 10:45:20 ID：c7d31fdf4 ★コメ返信★

パプアニューギニア感をもっと出すべき
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 10:46:49 ID：369875df1 ★コメ返信★

色と別バルカン以外にMk-Ⅱとの共通点を探す方が難しい

それはそれとしてＨＧＵＣバーザムの発売経緯も
何か話題に上る事が多いけど本当に大丈夫かな？
想定外が受け入れられるのなら次に繋げられるんじゃない？
とか言う博打要素多めの企画だったそうな
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 10:55:59 ID：c7d31fdf4 ★コメ返信★

後にも先にも無い不思議造形のビームガン
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 10:57:35 ID：fddf59d62 ★コメ返信★

Mk-Ⅱの量産型云々というのは、モデグラのセンチネルの連載中にかときのデザイン画と作例が出たのが最初じゃないか？

反応:※22
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 11:42:04 ID：e0dfe245d ★コメ返信★

作中唯一ジェリドが搭乗しなかったティターンズ量産機
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 11:46:34 ID：0362c699d ★コメ返信★

ハイザックやジム2以上、マラサイより一部劣る程度の高級量産機
機体から武装まで特殊な形状なのと、ティターンズ製である事を考えると後世に残らないのは残当である
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 12:22:45 ID：a9794612a ★コメ返信★

ダムはふくらはぎのくびれだけど、ザムはなんや。

反応:※12
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 13:12:41 ID：af7ae266c ★コメ返信★

別に人気が出たわけじゃない
うけ狙いで持ち上げるとイイネがもらえるようになったからSNSのおかげ
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 13:15:12 ID：055e34314 ★コメ返信★

「もっこり」だから、駄目なのですｗ
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 13:17:31 ID：845748e5b ★コメ返信★

>記事4
一体何があった⁉️

反応:※19
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 13:22:45 ID：369875df1 ★コメ返信★

※8
ザクっぽさとジムっぽさ脅威の融合
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 13:53:47 ID：845748e5b ★コメ返信★

正直何時出て来てどんな活躍したのか全く覚えていない…
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 13:59:17 ID：57003ff90 ★コメ返信★

ファのメタスにもやられてたからなぁ
15. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 14:01:26 ID：57003ff90 ★コメ返信★

ウィンダムはザクウォーリアを倒したりして活躍してたけど、バーザムって活躍した所なんて無いよね？
ファのメタスに倒されて、岩が崩れて下敷きになって潰れて、最終量産機なのに不遇の機体だよバーザムは。まさに不遇だな。

反応:※16
16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 14:04:06 ID：57003ff90 ★コメ返信★

※15
続き、
活躍度ならウィンダム＞バーザムだから、
ウィンダムの方が活躍してた。
ムウ（ネオ）も乗ってたし。
バーザムの見せ場？
Ｚガンダムと、ただのつばぜり合いをした所でしょ( ´,_ゝ`)

反応:※27
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 14:51:56 ID：fad998e78 ★コメ返信★

2ちゃんのガンダム板でイジってたのが元だから理由らしい理由なんてない
18. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 15:11:21 ID：669aaef91 ★コメ返信★

Mk-IIの量産型設定は近藤版に付いたオリ設定が
何故か広まったと思ってる
ちなみに近藤版バーザムはツインアイで確かにガンダム寄り
19. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 15:51:27 ID：c7d31fdf4 ★コメ返信★

※11
GFFのティターンズカラーMarkⅡの事だな
20. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 15:57:08 ID：a9e595683 ★コメ返信★

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21. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 17:31:11 ID：57003ff90 ★コメ返信★

1stのゲルググ
SEEDのゲイツ
そしてＺガンダムのバーザムだな
ゲルググはシャアが乗って活躍して、
ゲイツはクルーゼが乗ってストライクガンダムに損傷させたからな

バーザム・・・・
22. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 18:04:25 ID：fe5a28a22 ★コメ返信★

※5
の言う通りだな
当初企画案でガザCと共に放映時キット化する予定だった
(ガザCは当時のホビーショーで木型原型が公開されていた)
が、しかし以前の時の様に売れなかったので没になった
あさのまさひこ筆頭に元ストリームベースの編集者兼作家(高橋昌也)当時の高校生(カトキハジメ)とか漫画家(近藤和久)に造形師(小林誠)大学生(渡辺誠)のファンが盛り上げた産物
しかし当の本人サムライトルーパーのデザイナー(岡本英郎)は全く考えていなかったし関与も無い
23. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 18:50:22 ID：7096dd8c9 ★コメ返信★

確かFC版Z二ゲームの攻略本だったか当時のフィルムブックだったか忘れたけど、それくらいの時にはMk-IIの量産型(後継機？)という表記があったからだいぶ古い設定なんだよな
盛り上がったのは2chだかふたば辺りでネタにされ尽くされたからだろうな
24. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/16(Sun) 19:25:14 ID：66e8a1d0e ★コメ返信★

昔のSDでもにせガンダムMK-IIがバーザムのプロトタイプなんて設定があったりする
25. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/01/17(Mon) 18:36:53 ID：49a9626ab ★コメ返信★

ザムタロスでちょっと草
誰がこのコラ作ったやつのイマジネーションなんだろうな…
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※16
やられ役、雑魚キャラとしての活躍としてはそれで充分だけどな。
カッコいい場面が無ければ活躍したって言えないのは、主役視点が強すぎなだけだろうね。
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