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【ガンダム】ククルス・ドアン「赤い彗星と並ぶ強さです」←この設定なくても十分強いけど必要だったの・・・？

1: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:50:36▼このレスに返信

赤い彗星と並ぶ強さ

197: 名無し 2022/03/10 07:08:08▼このレスに返信

>1
そういう設定盛らんでいい
時間よ止まれの若いジオン兵たちみたいにエースでも英雄でもない普通の兵士が現状に抗っているというのが良かったのに

202: 名無し 2022/03/10 07:10:11▼このレスに返信

>197
何でもかんでもシャアを引き合いに出すのはな…
ドアンも強いのは間違いないんだけど

7: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:53:23▼このレスに返信

いつの間にかすごいパイロットに仕立て上げられてた

3: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:51:59▼このレスに返信

そういうのつけられると陳腐な感じするな

212: 名無し 2022/03/10 07:49:36▼このレスに返信

赤い彗星と並ぶってとこはいらねぇかなと思ったりする

4: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:52:08▼このレスに返信

正直そういうほじくり返し方はいらない

6: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:52:58▼このレスに返信

どんな後付けだよと思うがミサイルを投石で迎撃してコアファイター撃墜する化物ではあるんだよな

47: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:32:13▼このレスに返信

>6
ファンタジーだからと言ってしまえばそれまでだがあの投擲能力は間違いなく怪物級

210: 名無し 2022/03/10 07:35:46▼このレスに返信

投石だけでアムロを撃墜したパイロットが弱いわけ無いだろっていうね

8: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:53:33▼このレスに返信

まあそんな強い設定無くても
強いんでやっぱり強いとしか言えないし
強くないのならどうやって今まで撃退してたのかと言う話だし

10: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:55:10▼このレスに返信

>8
ザクのデザインにしろもろもろ整合性持たせようとしてめんどくさい感じがする

16: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:59:05▼このレスに返信

>10
めんどくさいも何も単に元から強いとしか解釈しようがないだろう
弱かったけどなんか知らんけど強いんですけど弱いんです
とかわけの分からん事言うからおかしくなるだけであって

19: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:02:05▼このレスに返信

弱かったらもう死んでるわけだしね

13: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:57:37▼このレスに返信

やりたい放題なのもここまで来ると清々しい

9: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:53:42▼このレスに返信

実際ドアン以外にも
初めて地球の自然に触れて感動して脱走したジオン兵って
たくさんいたんじゃないかと思うの

133: 名無し 2022/03/10 03:12:17▼このレスに返信

>9
このころのジオン兵は生粋のジオニズム信者が多い
ジオニズムつまりダイクンの思想は聖地である地球から人間は退去するべきって考えだからそんなのはあんまりいないと思う

134: 名無し 2022/03/10 03:21:09▼このレスに返信

>133
ねーな
少なくとも1stなんか前線の兵士なんかただの人って感じ

135: 名無し 2022/03/10 03:21:09▼このレスに返信

>133
思想は思想として兵士皆が思想家か信仰者ってわけでもないと思うけどね

12: 名無し 2022/03/10 00:55:27▼このレスに返信

何週間島暮らしだったんだろ

63: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:48:00▼このレスに返信

>12
ドアンの方なら何週間どこの話じゃないしアムロの方ならたった１日の出来事だけど

44: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:30:07▼このレスに返信

ここで苦言を呈してる人の意見、俺がヤマト2199で感じてた事だわ
ドアンに関しては、元の物に思い入れ何も無いから好きにやってくれて良いけど…

35: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:17:59▼このレスに返信

正直こういう造形のお遊びはなんぼでもやって欲しい
そもそもキットを売るためのアニメだし

38: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:24:57▼このレスに返信

出るんかなキット
設定自体はＲＧが参考臭いけど
ＲＧのディテールで部分的に外装が剥がれたみたいなＨＧになるんだろうか

43: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:29:23▼このレスに返信

>38

49: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:36:15▼このレスに返信

映画一本作れるようなエピソードだったの？これ

50: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:37:18▼このレスに返信

>49
うん
正直いくらでもドラマは広げられる珍しいエピソード

55: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:41:01▼このレスに返信

>49
たった１話ではあったけど
深読みできるくらいには色々と

57: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:41:30▼このレスに返信

0083のケリィみたいなもん
作ろうと思えば作れる

39: 名無し 2022/03/10 01:24:58▼このレスに返信

あくまでオリジンだし別にこれが正史になるって訳じゃないんだから好きにしたらええんよ

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 12:20:44 ID：e4b885e62 ★コメ返信★

そのうち、ザク相手なら生身でも圧倒出来る、くらい盛られそう。

反応:※3
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 12:24:18 ID：2fed2d215 ★コメ返信★

>記事212
じゃあ真紅の稲妻と並ぶ強さ
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 12:25:23 ID：2fed2d215 ★コメ返信★

※1
ザクに乗った奴が相手なら覇王翔吼拳を使わざるをえない
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 12:32:35 ID：fc3f066ed ★コメ返信★

ぶっちゃけこれより今度プレバンで出る高機動ザクR2の青いやつのパイロット掘り下げてやれよって思う

反応:※12
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 12:37:40 ID：e3807ee72 ★コメ返信★

見た感じ劇中内で「シャアと並ぶくらいすごいらしい」って噂になってるみたいな感じだから実際シャアと並ぶかはまた別じゃないか？
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 12:39:35 ID：9a0c63afd ★コメ返信★

ガンダム世界では織田信長みたいに「あの赤い彗星が恐れた！」的な書籍が山ほどあったりするんだろうな
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 12:39:54 ID：111992075 ★コメ返信★

これは要するに映画にシャアもぶっこみますよってフリだから
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 12:54:37 ID：e4b885e62 ★コメ返信★

ドアン専用ブグとか、色々展開するんやろうな
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 12:57:57 ID：132b44ff6 ★コメ返信★

赤い彗星１００個分のビタミンＣ
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 13:18:29 ID：3121b5075 ★コメ返信★

コロニー落としが海に落下したなら、
その津波でククルスドアンの島ぐらい更地になりそう。

反応:※15
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 13:33:33 ID：aab300bd8 ★コメ返信★

どうせクソになるとは思ってたが、こういう方向のクソ化とは思わなかった
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 13:35:41 ID：2fed2d215 ★コメ返信★

※4
でもあいつ眉毛ないし
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 15:46:35 ID：4c52560bd ★コメ返信★

ガンエーの漫画のせいだろ

反応:※17
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 18:58:32 ID：ecc21ecdb ★コメ返信★

ついでにGジェネみたいにハイパーモードにでもなれば？
15. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/10(Thu) 19:34:46 ID：7f003bbd8 ★コメ返信★

※10
恐竜を絶滅させた隕石は浅い海に落ちたから殆どエネルギーを殺せず、陸地に落ちたのと大して変わらない状態になってしまいあの惨事になった。そう考えると海に落ちていた場合、被害を殆どだせずにジオンの惨敗になっていたと思う
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宇宙世紀でもNHK朝ドラ見たいなノリで映像化されてそう
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/11(Fri) 07:33:41 ID：15118bd29 ★コメ返信★

※13
お兄さんがさんざん腹黒さをチラつかせておいて、終盤突然いい人ムーブ始めるの？
18. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/11(Fri) 11:49:01 ID：163d67437 ★コメ返信★

ファースト本編だと
母親との無惨な出会いと別れ
時間よ止まれの肉弾爆弾取り付け攻撃
ドアンの「見て置けアムロくん！　これがMSの戦い方だ！」MSかくとうぎをえとくした！
ラルさんのグフ登場。クソ強い

これが４話連続でアムロに襲い掛かってくるという濃厚さ……
そら「新米兵士がかかる病気」になるし、
ジャブローで久々に会ったシャアとかびびるくらい強くなるわ……
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シャアも言うても撃墜スコアはランク外やし、ルウムで戦艦5隻沈めて出世した後は指揮する立場な上、ホワイトベースに関わってから黒星続きやからなぁ
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21. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/04/08(Fri) 10:11:10 ID：6c0adce50 ★コメ返信★

映画やんのにプラモはプレバンかよ
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反戦って言うドアンの左翼っぽいスタイルが刺さったのかね。
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