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陸戦型ガンダム「20機弱しか作られてません」←この設定足枷になってるよな・・・

1: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:02:19

総生産数20機弱しかないって設定が足枷になってる気はする

2: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:10:56

1年しか戦争やってなかったっていうのが一番の枷だよ

3: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:14:49

しかもMS戦に限っていえばほんの数ヶ月

5: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:18:38

3年とか四年にしとけばよかったのに…
まぁ昔のアニメだもんなぁ…

8: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:21:51

>5
続編とか考えてなければ１年でいいだろ！？

9: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:22:21

ボトムズなんか100年やってるぞ

10: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:22:56

一年戦争の間で遊びたい人が多すぎた
知らない戦場や知らないエースがどんどん増える

15: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:24:13

>10
一年戦争しか認めん！っておじさんがいっぱいいたし…

18: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:26:17

ゲーム機体とか小説機体がだんだんメジャーになってしまうからギチギチ具合がすごい

19: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:28:21

そのうち秒単位でガチガチのタイムスケジュールになりそう

55: 名無し 2022/10/01 10:01:20

>19
そのうちってか初代がやばい
輸血レベルの怪我を1日2日で治してる

17: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:24:59

そもそもガンダムの余剰パーツでつくったって設定が何なんだよ…

24: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:33:46

>17
電子機器とかだと選別落ちしたのを制限掛けて下位モデルとして売るときあるし…

26: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:34:29

>24
それは大量生産品の話だろ

12: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:23:49

地球も宇宙も広いんだから地方にこんな機体がありましたって増やせばよかろう

6: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:19:34

イフリートとか06Rとか丁寧に設定守られてるけどこいつは曖昧

13: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:23:50

活躍したパイロットには高級機を贈りたいよね！
…20機かぁ

14: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:24:08

連ジDXで大量に出てくる少数生産機

129: 名無し 2022/10/01 10:29:27

そこらじゅうにガンダム顔が居てジオンさん可哀想

64: 名無し 2022/10/01 10:05:29

現状判明してるスレ画って何機？
BD1のボディもそうだった気がするしもうわからん

75: 名無し 2022/10/01 10:08:50

>64
コジマ大隊の01/04/06/08で12機?+ブルー3機+レイスとデルタチームで17機ぐらい？
調べたら他にもいそうだけど

102: 名無し 2022/10/01 10:18:08

コジマ大隊で12機だからまだ全然後付できるんだな

21: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:31:11

コジマ大隊の08以外の小隊機を改造しましたでかなり粘れる

23: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:32:36

なあにちょっと型番変えれば解決よ

25: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:34:14

組まれずに工場に置かれてた部品くみ上げたでかさ増し出来るよ

28: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:35:56

>25
コイツがその物ズバリです…

49: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:57:03

陸ガンの20機は東南アジアに配備された数でしたになりそう

51: 名無し 2022/10/01 09:58:55

>49
選別落ちパーツ多すぎ！

104: 名無し 2022/10/01 10:18:46

ガンダムが複数機あるからその予備パーツとなると無数にある！

82: 名無し 2022/10/01 10:12:43

まあ20機使い切ってから設定が足引っ張ってるって言えばいいと思う
あと2機とかなら5年くらいで超えるだろ

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 14:18:58 ID：64716bea1 ★コメ返信★

戦争自体が1年云々はどうでもいい事みたいなんだけど、富野由悠季の中でガンダムの話が
ほんの2、3ヶ月の出来事なのは重要みたいなんだよね
ガンダムのエピソードって本当に連続して描かれてるから、だからアムロが寝てる暇がなかった事にリアリティがでる。
有名なオデッサデイはあと5日後は、辻褄あってるんだぜ？
計算するとランバ・ラルとハモンは同じ日に死んでるのがわかる
アムロは半日しか家出してないし、セイラは独房に数時間しかはいっていない
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 14:28:37 ID：e05b7887e ★コメ返信★

「一年戦争飽きた！これ以上外伝作んな！」って騒ぐ割にこういう声も出てくるんだから面倒くさい・・・
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 14:47:27 ID：af0bba613 ★コメ返信★

一年戦争外伝なんて人気ないしどうでもいいわ
大体ゲームの機体なんてゲームオリジナルでいくらでも作れるんだから制限なんて無いだろ、シャア専用ガンダムだって出そうと思えば出せるんだからよ
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 14:52:12 ID：31644e916 ★コメ返信★

漫画Zガンダムだってディジェ捨ててアムロ専用ガンダム乗せてるのに設定で数ｶﾞｰとかそんなの拘ってるのオタクだけなんすわ
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 14:52:27 ID：b911b4db2 ★コメ返信★

そもそもコイツの存在自体無理矢理捻出したもんなんやから足枷もクソもないわ
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 15:06:06 ID：7c11f56a1 ★コメ返信★

さらにアジア方面での話だってのに、コードフェアリーの漫画のやられ役に出てきてて草。
ちったぁ設定考えろや！！
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 15:13:58 ID：b911b4db2 ★コメ返信★

なんか願いを叶えてもらったのに
「なんでこれっぽっちなんだ!もっとよこせ!」とか言い出す奴みたいだな
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 17:24:30 ID：908fec07d ★コメ返信★

08の製作からしてどう考えても無理があるからジムでやるべきとギリギリまで粘った位だからなぁ
それも所謂陸戦型ジムじゃなくて見た目は初期型的な普通のジムじゃないと無理とやってる
それ位陸ガンと陸ジムは元から無理矢理な存在だから考えるだけ負のスパイラルに陥る
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 17:35:39 ID：7748fafba ★コメ返信★

公式記録から消去され歴史の闇に葬られたってオチにしときゃいくらでも盛れる
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 18:31:12 ID：00eba7ff0 ★コメ返信★

大丈夫
ルナツーあたりで「宇宙戦型ガンダム」を20機くらい作っていたことにすればいいから
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 19:42:22 ID：aad9e76a7 ★コメ返信★

２０機作ったあと、そこそこ戦果があったので、品質不安定な余剰部品をある程度妥協した品質にして(でもジムよりは優れてる)追加生産を行ったとかすればええやろ。

反応:※12 ※16 ※20
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 20:41:33 ID：24df91c5e ★コメ返信★

※11
1年戦争中で記録に残ってるのが20数機という設定だから追加生産は無理
やるなら何かしらの「記録に残らなかった理由が必要になる」という話をしてんのよ
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 20:58:51 ID：6358db3bb ★コメ返信★

そのうち「『陸戦型ガンダム』は20機弱、でも『陸戦型ガンダムをベースにした派生機』は陸戦型ガンダムじゃないからノーカン」とか言い出す

反応:※14
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/01(Sat) 21:09:49 ID：24df91c5e ★コメ返信★

※13
まぁ「後ろめたい設定抜き」でやるならこれやろうなぁ……
15. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/02(Sun) 10:25:11 ID：57f52ef9b ★コメ返信★

普通に「ガンダムの陸戦型を少数生産しました」でなんも文句無かったろうにな。
検品落ちで複数生産ってなんだよwツッコミどころしかないわ。

反応:※17
16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/02(Sun) 11:41:31 ID：52d2f85ea ★コメ返信★

※11
生産経緯の違いから、RX-79[G]-2 陸戦型ガンダムⅡとか形式番号含めて変えたりして、別機体扱いになったカッコ悪でも実質同じ機体で部品も共有可で良いと思う。

というか陸ガン、陸ジムの形式番号の[G]が違和感になり過ぎ。
いっそ連邦陸軍ではRX、RGM以外の付け方にした方がスッキリしたように思うわ
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/02(Sun) 20:19:59 ID：502a13cbd ★コメ返信★

※15
当時としてはメチャクチャ文句あったのよ
陸ジムと合わせてそれまでのガンダム設定を根底から書き換える存在だったから
ポケ戦でアレックスを作るのに従来設定に障らないよう思いっきり気を使った出渕が
陸ガンについて「俺らの苦労が馬鹿みたいだ」と愚痴るくらいには
18. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/03(Mon) 16:36:09 ID：52236c00b ★コメ返信★

最近ガンダムRRなんてのも生えてきたからまたファミリーが1人増えた
漫画版ブルーで2、3号機がスナⅡベースになったのって陸ガンの枠空けたかったとかだったりしてな
19. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/03(Mon) 16:36:33 ID：e8610a58d ★コメ返信★

検品落ちした予備部品で複数量産されたガンダムというこの時点で既に突っ込みだらけだし
ましてその陸ガンと共通部分がある量産型ジムなんてあり得る訳がないのに正気かという
ガンダムと並ぶジムなら共通部分がないと駄目という理由で陸ジムの出来上がりと無茶苦茶
20. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/10/03(Mon) 23:50:12 ID：725617557 ★コメ返信★

※11
むしろ後継機（？）の陸ジムをカスタムアップして性能向上させた機体の方が、制限数も無くて使いやすいかもしれない
ジム系なんで、一部では人気出ても主人公クラスの人気や活躍となると難しいかもしれんけど
スナカスとか人気やけど、主人公機としては陸ガンの方が選択されやすいしなぁ
ガンダムの肩書は重要か・・・

リミッター効いた陸ガンなら、陸ジムだって性能負けてないだろうし、そこからカスタム要素淹れたら頑丈な陸ガンにも負けない機体になりそうなんだが
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