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【ガンダムSEED】四足型とあるってことは需要もあったの？

1: 無念 2019/09/01 03:13:49 No.665990154 ▼このレスに返信

バクゥスレ
四足型かっこいいよね…

2: 無念 2019/09/01 03:14:52 No.665990225 ▼このレスに返信

ホバーにできるなら四足にしなくていいじゃん？

4: 無念 2019/09/01 03:15:07 No.665990242 ▼このレスに返信

>ホバーにできるなら四足にしなくていいじゃん？
浪漫だよ

7: 無念 2019/09/01 03:16:37 No.665990353 ▼このレスに返信

>ホバーにできるなら四足にしなくていいじゃん？
ジャンプしたり立体的な機動も付けられるよ！

10: 無念 2019/09/01 03:17:26 No.665990415 ▼このレスに返信

>ホバーにできるなら四足にしなくていいじゃん？
どこでも使えるとは限らない

16: 無念 2019/09/01 03:21:48 No.665990716 ▼このレスに返信

>ホバーにできるなら四足にしなくていいじゃん？
>どこでも使えるとは限らない
四足を使える状況ってホバーも使えるような・・・

21: 無念 2019/09/01 03:24:30 No.665990917 ▼このレスに返信

>四足を使える状況ってホバーも使えるような・・・
地面が入り組んでたり急な高低差がついたら無理じゃね

5: 無念 2019/09/01 03:15:42 No.665990280 ▼このレスに返信

ザフトの機体本当面白いよね

8: 無念 2019/09/01 03:16:53 No.665990375 ▼このレスに返信

スレ画ってジンと同時期から存在してたの？
ジンの技術とか経験とか何も生かせなさそうだが

48: 無念 2019/09/01 03:42:36 No.665992227 ▼このレスに返信

>スレ画ってジンと同時期から存在してたの？
>ジンの技術とか経験とか何も生かせなさそうだが
そもそもジン作ってたハインライン設計局と違う開発局のアジモフ設計局製作だから別段ジンの技術とか経験とかはそんなに

12: 無念 2019/09/01 03:18:26 No.665990489 ▼このレスに返信

種死になっても陸戦だとかなり強い部類
飛ぶ奴増えたからあれだけど

13: 無念 2019/09/01 03:18:27 No.665990490 ▼このレスに返信

こんなのが出てくるかなと期待したがインパルスのアレ位しか見る事は無かった

37: 無念 2019/09/01 03:32:06 No.665991440 ▼このレスに返信

>こんなのが出てくるかな
乗り物にするんじゃないなら
ケンタウルス型でよくね？

39: 無念 2019/09/01 03:33:59 No.665991582 ▼このレスに返信

>乗り物にするんじゃないなら
>ケンタウルス型でよくね？
下半身が～って案ならもう挙がってるし

42: 無念 2019/09/01 03:38:23 No.665991918 ▼このレスに返信

>下半身が～って案ならもう挙がってるし
そのサイズだと逆に乗り物にした方が

104: 無念 2019/09/01 08:01:38 No.666006485 ▼このレスに返信

>こんなのが出てくるかなと期待したが
まあSDや武者で通った道だな

14: 無念 2019/09/01 03:20:18 No.665990608 ▼このレスに返信

結局砂漠戦想定した機体ってこいつとラゴウくらいしか出なかった

15: 無念 2019/09/01 03:21:03 No.665990662 ▼このレスに返信

どうでもいいところだったんだろうな

17: 無念 2019/09/01 03:21:54 No.665990722 ▼このレスに返信

あの世界で多脚の優位性は確立されているのだろう

18: 無念 2019/09/01 03:22:25 No.665990757 ▼このレスに返信

ゾイドだなんの言われてたけど
割と合理的な気はする

20: 無念 2019/09/01 03:24:23 No.665990912 ▼このレスに返信

初期稿

27: 無念 2019/09/01 03:26:50 No.665991082 ▼このレスに返信

>初期稿
うーんGセイバーだ

30: 無念 2019/09/01 03:27:32 No.665991133 ▼このレスに返信

>初期稿
四脚ＡＣとデストロイドの子供みたい

38: 無念 2019/09/01 03:32:55 No.665991502 ▼このレスに返信

>初期稿
砂漠じゃなくてビルの多い市街地にいそう

22: 無念 2019/09/01 03:25:08 No.665990960 ▼このレスに返信

こいつのCG制作費を別に回してればかなりの量のバンク減らせたんでは

24: 無念 2019/09/01 03:25:56 No.665991028 ▼このレスに返信

>こいつのCG制作費を別に回してればかなりの量のバンク減らせたんでは
脚本が上がる速度が変わらない限りは無理だろう

29: 無念 2019/09/01 03:26:56 No.665991091 ▼このレスに返信

ひっくり返ったら独力ではどうしようもなくなるモビルスーツ

31: 無念 2019/09/01 03:28:38 No.665991207 ▼このレスに返信

人型以外に挑戦してくれたのは良かったが
後が続かなかったな
AGEの怪獣といい

34: 無念 2019/09/01 03:30:16 No.665991319 ▼このレスに返信

>人型以外に挑戦してくれたのは良かったが
せやな

32: 無念 2019/09/01 03:29:47 No.665991288 ▼このレスに返信

ガイアでわざわざ変形してまでゾイド形態にしたってことは陸戦だと四足がやっぱ強いんだろう

35: 無念 2019/09/01 03:31:29 No.665991391 ▼このレスに返信

四脚は安定性が高くて良いね

36: 無念 2019/09/01 03:31:33 No.665991397 ▼このレスに返信

あの世界だと足による移動がとてもエコなんだろうね

41: 無念 2019/09/01 03:35:53 No.665991733 ▼このレスに返信

インパルスって色々勿体無かったよな

44: 無念 2019/09/01 03:39:39 No.665992011 ▼このレスに返信

>インパルスって色々勿体無かったよな
あくまで他の機体の模倣でしかなかった

46: 無念 2019/09/01 03:42:06 No.665992193 ▼このレスに返信

奪われた３機を奪還するとインパルスがパワーアップ！みたいな展開とか
玩具販促的にも面白いと思ったがまぁ後の祭りだな

49: 無念 2019/09/01 03:43:37 No.665992300 ▼このレスに返信

>奪われた３機を奪還するとインパルスがパワーアップ！みたいな展開とか
>玩具販促的にも面白いと思ったがまぁ後の祭りだな
鉄血だな

50: 無念 2019/09/01 03:43:38 No.665992302 ▼このレスに返信

ホバーは平坦な場所以外使えないし燃費悪いんだよね（種世界は現代と比べ物にならないほどエネルギー変換効率良さそうだが）
それに4足なら積載量も射撃の安定性も高い

51: 無念 2019/09/01 03:54:16 No.665992975 ▼このレスに返信

ホバーじゃ走りながら大口径砲撃てないじゃないか
動き止めて撃つなら高機動目的であろうホバーの意味がない

77: 無念 2019/09/01 04:43:07 No.665995335 ▼このレスに返信

種世界でホバーが主流にならない理由はパイロットたちから使いづらいって不評だからだったりする
それが理由でドムがコンペ落ちしてたり(クライン派の工作説も設定としてあるけど)

78: 無念 2019/09/01 04:46:58 No.665995506 ▼このレスに返信

まあ宇宙世紀のドムの方も操縦難しかったらしいしね

79: 無念 2019/09/01 05:00:36 No.665996073 ▼このレスに返信

反動ある火器を使うとなるとホバーは相性よろしくないしな

80: 無念 2019/09/01 05:12:48 No.665996614 ▼このレスに返信

それこそ宇宙世紀ドムがバズーカなのも無反動で強力な砲って理由だし

86: 無念 2019/09/01 06:55:34 No.666001374 ▼このレスに返信

以外といなかったタイプのMSなんだなバクゥ

94: 無念 2019/09/01 07:19:58 No.666003029 ▼このレスに返信

>以外といなかったタイプのMSなんだなバクゥ
よく言われるが他社のアレと酷似してるからな
会社で揉めそうだしいなかったのは当然だと思う
ってか怒られなかったの？

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むっちゃ需要あったから実証機のワイルドダガーが70機も作られた
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そもそもドムのホバーは核融合炉の副産物だから
バッテリー機だと自前の電力や推進材を使って浮かないといけないから
仮想敵にmsもいないしバクゥの開発時期では無駄だったんじゃないかな
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当時はゾイド（主にライガーorウルフ系）が人気だったから
それにあやかりたかっただけだろ
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2019/09/01(Sun) 22:03:17 ID：dacc8f2b0 ★コメ返信★

4足と言いつつ、話のメインが砂漠だったのもあって大半はキャタピラのイメージなんだよな
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>ひっくり返ったら独力ではどうしようもなくなるモビルスーツ
普通のMSでも可動範囲とか四肢のボリュームとか背負い物で
自力で起きるのが無理そうな奴多々いるので…

まあ車両の横転や船の転覆を思えば、自力で復帰できる乗り物の方が珍しいが

反応:※7
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砂漠で２足だと埋まっちゃうからね
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※5
その背負い物のせいで自立さえ怪しい連中がゴロゴロいるしね
そこでこのアクションベース（宣伝）
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四足と実際のキャタピラぐらいでかいキャタピラのハイブリッドってのは結構合理的っぽく見えるよな
NJあって他より燃費大事なシードの世界観もあるし
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砂漠の3%が砂砂漠で後は岩砂漠
岩砂漠は凄い高低差あるのとでっかい岩が無数に転がってるのでホバーの空気が漏れる
砂砂漠はホバー使ったら砂煙目立つし目詰まりする
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推進器吹かし続けるタイプのホバー機動するなら普通に足増やして接地圧下げた方が自然だし低燃費だろ
そうでないなら先に挙げられた通り
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求められているのは単純な移動ではなく戦闘機動。
地面を蹴ってジグザグに移動するなど、俊敏な切り返しが求められている。

ACのホバーとか動きが平面的だったな。
ジャンプ苦手で急に止まれないとかだといい的になる。
武装も無反動砲でないとバランス崩すだろうし、ミサイルなど誘導兵器はそもそも当てにならない設定だし。
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