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【ガンダム】MSで直接人間を攻撃するって人道的にどうなのよ…

1: 2020/03/31 23:27:42 No.721472639 ▼このレスに返信

MSで直接人間を攻撃するって
人道的にどうなのよ…

5: 2020/03/31 23:34:33 No.721474842 ▼このレスに返信

非人道的な奴には一方的に殴られる痛さと怖さを教えてやる位で丁度良い

16: 2020/03/31 23:44:24 No.721477788 ▼このレスに返信

>MSで直接人間を攻撃するって
>人道的にどうなのよ…
うるさい

8: 2020/03/31 23:35:22 No.721475083 ▼このレスに返信

止めた

18: 2020/03/31 23:46:06 No.721478328 ▼このレスに返信

>止めた
どうしてパワーが拮抗してるんだ…

11: 2020/03/31 23:37:44 No.721475809 ▼このレスに返信

スタゲ版

15: 2020/03/31 23:42:22 No.721477168 ▼このレスに返信

>スタゲ版
バリーを殺せなかった教訓から強化された説

20: 2020/03/31 23:50:27 No.721479602 ▼このレスに返信

口径的にはカスっただけでミンチ

35: 2020/04/01 00:07:33 No.721485140 ▼このレスに返信

120mmですら避ける奴がいるんだから12.5mmなんて当たる方が悪い

38: 2020/04/01 00:10:39 No.721486073 ▼このレスに返信

シローすげえな
そりゃアイナも惚れる

39: 2020/04/01 00:15:55 No.721487640 ▼このレスに返信

逃がすか！

43: 2020/04/01 00:22:48 No.721489630 ▼このレスに返信

>逃がすか！
これ仕止めたの？笑うわ

55: 2020/04/01 01:24:07 No.721503722 ▼このレスに返信

>これ仕止めたの？笑うわ
仕留めてないけど？

40: 2020/04/01 00:17:34 No.721488092 ▼このレスに返信

ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!

44: 2020/04/01 00:24:36 No.721490135 ▼このレスに返信

ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!

41: 2020/04/01 00:17:51 No.721488180 ▼このレスに返信

小説版ジオニックフロントの
生身の兵士相手にザクマシンガンぶっ放して「連邦兵を殺すんだから一緒だろう」と言ったやつに対し「なら弾1発で連邦兵1人を殺すなんて非効率的な真似は控えていただけますか」って諭すくだり

49: 2020/04/01 00:33:15 No.721492607 ▼このレスに返信

>小説版ジオニックフロントの
>生身の兵士相手にザクマシンガンぶっ放して「連邦兵を殺すんだから一緒だろう」と言ったやつに対し「なら弾1発で連邦兵1人を殺すなんて非効率的な真似は控えていただけますか」って諭すくだり
でもレンチェフとソフィは人殺しするために軍人やってるフシあるから…

50: 2020/04/01 00:34:27 No.721492941 ▼このレスに返信

>小説版ジオニックフロントの
>生身の兵士相手にザクマシンガンぶっ放して「連邦兵を殺すんだから一緒だろう」と言ったやつに対し「なら弾1発で連邦兵1人を殺すなんて非効率的な真似は控えていただけますか」って諭すくだり
「言われてみりゃその通りだ」って最終的に鉈みたいなの自作したんだっけあの人

42: 2020/04/01 00:19:56 No.721488789 ▼このレスに返信

街中ならザクマシンガンの薬莢で人死にそうだ

45: 2020/04/01 00:26:03 No.721490544 ▼このレスに返信

>街中ならザクマシンガンの薬莢で人死にそうだ
F91で潰されてなかったっけ

48: 2020/04/01 00:30:56 No.721491933 ▼このレスに返信

>F91で潰されてなかったっけ
頭に直撃した母親が無言で倒れて子供が起こそうとする

57: 2020/04/01 03:20:34 No.721517038 ▼このレスに返信

本気で当てるつもりではないんだろうけど、モビルスーツで人に向けてこういう意趣返しをする主人公

60: 2020/04/01 03:31:37 No.721517817 ▼このレスに返信

怪しい盗撮者にバルカンを撃つガンダム

58: 2020/04/01 03:26:50 No.721517485 ▼このレスに返信

ザクの対人用Sマインってめちゃくちゃ効率悪そうだよね

61: 2020/04/01 03:39:50 No.721518326 ▼このレスに返信

といってもMSで生身の相手を虐殺はパイロットに相当なストレスだろ

62: 2020/04/01 04:04:46 No.721519627 ▼このレスに返信

>といってもMSで生身の相手を虐殺はパイロットに相当なストレスだろ
ズームして撃つでもなきゃ大したことない
口径的にも実際はミンチだから尚更実感なんてわかないと思う

63: 2020/04/01 04:22:23 No.721520468 ▼このレスに返信

>口径的にも実際はミンチだから尚更実感なんてわかないと思う
そういう人でもPTSD発症するからねえ
WW2の頃にあまりそういう人がいなかったのは単にベトナム戦争がきっかけで認知されるようになったからでしかない
それ以前は存在が見落とされてた、

59: 2020/04/01 03:28:03 No.721517562 ▼このレスに返信

鉄仮面「こいつでよくなーい？」

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 10:14:31 ID：b79f34326 ★コメ返信★

戦車で轢き殺したり、戦闘機で人の集団にミサイル撃ち込んだりする位の感覚だろ
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 10:16:33 ID：51b9e66cf ★コメ返信★

毒ガスは人道的なんですかね…？

反応:※22
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 10:57:11 ID：6f957dc5e ★コメ返信★

スレ画は人がモビルスーツに打撃を与えるのは…だと思ったw
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 11:02:34 ID：cc4247f32 ★コメ返信★

エンジェル・ハイロー…
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 11:16:32 ID：1429ff726 ★コメ返信★

カミーユはＭＳで生身を攻撃したこともあるが生身でＭＳの攻撃を受けたこともある
そして当たり前のようにかわした
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 12:05:13 ID：68c49903d ★コメ返信★

ベスパ的には効果時間と範囲を制限すれば人道的兵器バグ
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 12:25:22 ID：27912e9e1 ★コメ返信★

ろくな装備もなしにMSの頭部まで駆け上がり、メインカメラを蹴って潰すような人間もどうかとは思う。
東方不敗か、お前は！
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 12:46:25 ID：e55651acd ★コメ返信★

ナチュラルの捕虜なんかいらないから、しゃーない
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 12:47:59 ID：7ac3b9f21 ★コメ返信★

そんな事をイチイチ気にして戦争が出来るかっつーの
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 13:10:28 ID：8164ea5e9 ★コメ返信★

閃光のハサウェイでは、連邦の部隊が対人の仕方がよくわからないから、捕虜になったゲリラをグスタフカールの手で一人一人潰していったとかいう外道なシーンがあったよね
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 13:13:21 ID：e55651acd ★コメ返信★

なら歩兵に銃殺させるのは人道的だとでも？
どのみち殺すことには変わらんだろ
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 13:18:23 ID：000fe3029 ★コメ返信★

だってコスパ悪いし…
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 13:37:20 ID：8164ea5e9 ★コメ返信★

歩兵で済むところを、わざわざ巨大兵器を使うというところに、人道性のありなしというより、異常性の高さを感じるということではないだろうか

反応:※14
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 13:44:18 ID：e55651acd ★コメ返信★

>>13
歩兵が向かってんならともかく、MSだけで来たんならわざわざ機体から降りる必要ある？って話だし
15. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 14:46:41 ID：3ffa515d3 ★コメ返信★

対人兵器くらいは搭載するべきでは
ワッパで近寄られて時限爆弾仕掛けられたらたまらん
16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 14:50:43 ID：8164ea5e9 ★コメ返信★

MSというものが、これらの世界では当たり前になりすぎて、客観的にみれば対人において、あきらかに過剰な手段であるMSを使って事態に対処するようになってしまった人々っていうのは、やはり異常なのではないか？ってことが言いたかったんだけど…
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 14:55:24 ID：f25f89a6a ★コメ返信★

46「ザクマ見てから余裕でした」

しかしまあ戦車や戦闘機に置き換えてみたら大して異常とも思わないかな
18. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 15:18:34 ID：b1dd8fc8c ★コメ返信★

まあ近く飛び回ったりその辺のもの投げる程度で歩兵はなんとかなるよね
19. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 15:24:47 ID：47fc1d689 ★コメ返信★

武器は殺人への躊躇いを無くするからな。
蚊を潰すように掌でパチンとかなら見てしまう可能性もあるけど。
パイロットは整備やらないしね。
20. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 15:54:00 ID：96b9b5fc8 ★コメ返信★

ハーグ条約的には「不必要な苦痛を与える兵器、投射物、その他の物質を使用すること」が非人道的ってことでNGだけど、受けた側が一瞬で血煙になって消し飛ぶのなら逆に人道的なのでは？ボブは訝しんだ。
21. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 17:37:15 ID：000fe3029 ★コメ返信★

※21
昔ギロチンは即死させるから苦痛を伴わない人道的な処刑法って言われて検証した人がいるくらいだから一緒で塵は人道的らしい

反応:※21
22. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 18:53:15 ID：b0d4188be ★コメ返信★

※2
ナチは最初特別行動隊って連隊規模の虐殺部隊が四つ、占領地でのユダヤ人と共産党員の処刑銃殺、絞殺主体でをやって回ってたんだけど、
あんまりお仕事が凄惨なんで精神病む奴が続出して問題になった。
親衛隊のヒムラー長官が激励に訪れた。んで、現地で本人が卒倒した。
だもんで女子供含む血塗れ死体たくさんは精神面によくない！ってんでガスでの処刑に切り替える指示が出た。
でも収容所管理部隊の兵士のリタイヤ率はやっぱり変わらなかった（ハッスルしまくった奴もいたが）。ヒムラー長官もやっぱりまた卒倒した。
そんなわけでナチでも人道的とは考えなかったのがガスな訳で、まんまナチなジオン星のモラルでもそうなんでないかな…
23. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/01(Wed) 21:42:51 ID：95b9bf03f ★コメ返信★

弾が勿体ないから片っ端からマニュピレーターで握り潰して死体の山積みつくりま専科？
24. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/02(Thu) 01:48:32 ID：891dc9c7e ★コメ返信★

スレ画はギャグだろ
兵器なんだから現実の防弾ガラスどころの硬さじゃないのに生身で壊すなよ
ガンダムでそれが許されるのはガンダムファイターだけだぞｗ
25. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/02(Thu) 02:28:55 ID：e27ee4272 ★コメ返信★

オリジンはどのMSにも対人用バルカンが搭載されてたな
26. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/02(Thu) 07:28:13 ID：39ceec441 ★コメ返信★

対人用（口径は戦車砲並み）
27. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/04/02(Thu) 22:27:17 ID：5167a0581 ★コメ返信★

スローターダガーの足バルカンの殺意はいつも草生える
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