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【ガンダム】旧ザク言うほど旧くない問題ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

1: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:19:00▼このレスに返信

旧ザクスレ
言うほど旧くない

10: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:27:14▼このレスに返信

動力パイプ出てないが
なんかそこだけ見るとこっちが新しいようにも思う

13: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:28:38▼このレスに返信

歴戦の勇士と言ってみたり当初は作られて数年とは設定されてなかった様子
少なくとも10年位旧ザクで戦ってきた感じ

14: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:28:40▼このレスに返信

劇中で明確に旧型とは言ってないんだけどね
「キサマのザクでは無理だ」って言っただけだから

55: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:45:08▼このレスに返信

>14
最悪ガデム専用ザクになってた可能性も

17: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:30:12▼このレスに返信

半年くらい型落ちなのかな？

49: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:43:10▼このレスに返信

>17
ザクⅠは0075年にヅダとのコンペに勝って採用・生産決定した
ザクⅡのロールアウトは0077年
なので2年ぐらいということになるかな

24: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:32:53▼このレスに返信

ガンダム世界は進化が早すぎて何でもあっという間に旧になる

31: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:34:48▼このレスに返信

>24
ジュガン…

25: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:33:10▼このレスに返信

未来の人
「シュッとしてるから指揮官機に違いない」

32: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:34:52▼このレスに返信

>25
ボルジャーノン大活躍だったし
そんなに差がないのか

37: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:36:28▼このレスに返信

>25
大河原先生も
「進化したらパイプが無くなるのが普通だよね」
とＭＳＶの画集で仰られておる

28: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:33:58▼このレスに返信

劇中だと良く分からないけどザクとどのくらい違うんだろ？
たとえばザクだと振り向く動作に３秒かかるけど旧ザクだと６秒かかるとか？

38: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:36:38▼このレスに返信

>28
ザク＝iPhone8
旧ザク＝iPhone5s
※個人の感想です

70: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:51:35▼このレスに返信

設定画に旧ザクって書いてある

72: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:52:58▼このレスに返信

後頭部の三角はなんだろうゲルググに引き継がれますが

75: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:55:40▼このレスに返信

>72
風を感じたいんだろう

80: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:58:10▼このレスに返信

>72
パイプが中に入ってるから内蔵できなかった
通信用アンテナだったりして

20: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:31:37▼このレスに返信

常に新しい方が強くて偉いと疑わない当時のガキ共のハートを掴んて離さないのは何故だ

35: 名無し 2020/06/25 21:35:55▼このレスに返信

>20
当時のガキにはそこまで好かれてた訳じゃないよ
出来のいいプラモのおかげで人気が出た感じだった

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/26(Fri) 17:20:14 ID：97d065bbd ★コメ返信★

UCのヨンム・カークス機のようにスナイパーライフルで狙撃に特化した機体とか、使いようによっては戦果を挙げれるMSだな
ファーストのころはショボい機体だとおもったけど、何だかんだで”縁の下の力持ち”的な渋い存在の機体だなと近年は思うようになった
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/26(Fri) 17:44:52 ID：f50c93036 ★コメ返信★

ファーストガンダムの時代だとザクⅡが現行機だから昔のザクって事で旧ザクなだけでは
まあザクⅠでもいいと思うけど
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/26(Fri) 17:57:02 ID：8f87a475d ★コメ返信★

劇中ではザクＩもザクIIもただザクとしか言われていない
当時のガンダムファンが区別のために旧ザクと呼び始めた勝手名称だったが、公式プラモが後から取り入れた
その後ＨＧでＭＳ０５ＢザクＩという名称になった
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/26(Fri) 18:06:29 ID：122e93b2f ★コメ返信★

では古殺駆と名乗れと申すか？
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/26(Fri) 18:50:20 ID：80f72d63e ★コメ返信★

パソコンだって昔は二年もしたら型落ちになっとったじゃろ？
技術が確立されてないジャンルの黎明期は新陳代謝激しいからリアルの軍事技術でも二、三年で陳腐化することはよくあったよね。

反応:※7
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/26(Fri) 20:14:15 ID：c304bbd93 ★コメ返信★

>>20
プラモ出たのが後だからじゃないの
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/26(Fri) 20:52:52 ID：74f76c03c ★コメ返信★

※5
現在建造中のも含めて全てをゴミにしたドレッドノートとかな
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/27(Sat) 00:13:11 ID：99bcd134b ★コメ返信★

ショルダーにヒートホーク付いてればガンダム倒してたかも
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/27(Sat) 06:10:27 ID：ddd1866ba ★コメ返信★

※14

旧型ではなく作業用ザクとかで良かったのにな。

反応:※10
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/27(Sat) 16:35:19 ID：62f81f6d6 ★コメ返信★

※9
後に、作業用旧ザク発表されてしまったから。

子供だったが、プラモ関係なくザクより旧ザクの方が好きだったわ
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/27(Sat) 23:12:42 ID：d8ee0ca25 ★コメ返信★

ブグで動力パイプむき出しだったのを
旧ザクで無理やり内部に格納して機動性悪くなったから
ザクⅡでまたむき出しにしたら解決したって設定だったような
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/06/28(Sun) 01:53:42 ID：390dbb8d8 ★コメ返信★

パイプ剥き出しきらーい
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/07/06(Mon) 15:21:30 ID：811083fc2 ★コメ返信★

1/144は首が上下に動いておおっ!　となってザクでは一体化されていた足首も動いて感動ものだった。1/100は当時としては文句ない出来だったし。プラモの印象が強いなぁ。
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/07/12(Sun) 14:58:14 ID：8c7166952 ★コメ返信★

当時、プラモとは関係なく、旧ザクやガデムは人気があったな。

プラモ発売後は、プラモの良さを評価する声もあったが、俺は
見た目的には普通のザクの方がかっこいいと思った。

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ww2でも１年くらいで戦車や戦闘機は時代遅れになった。MSも黎明期だから。
16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/07/18(Sat) 14:47:46 ID：7868b05b4 ★コメ返信★

旧ザクとゲルググは式典装備も似合いそう
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1/144のプラモ、普通のザクに比べて格段に動く部分が多くなって好きだった。ｗ
足首動くし。
肩のパーツ、腕をT字にすると出てきた…ような想い出。（＾＾；
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まだ旧ザクなんて名前もなかった頃漫画家の吾妻ひでおが漫画の中で頭だけ登場させたり
「バリエーション違い」の走りでもあったからそういうのが好きな人の心をくすぐったというか
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描いちゃったんだろ。スタッフの頭の中のイメージでは20年くらい前の機体なんだけど
シャアを若くし過ぎてるから開戦時期もつい最近になっちゃってるんだろうね。
メインキャラが若い奴だらけのアニメではよくある事だが。
連邦の宇宙戦艦だってそもそも何と戦うために用意されてたんだよって話だしな
宇宙時代だけに宇宙海賊とか出没してたんだろうか
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