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【ガンダム】シャアが上司だったらどうする？頼れるところあったっけ？

1: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:14:39▼このレスに返信

シャアが上司だったらどうする？
この人って頼れるところあったっけ

4: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:18:12▼このレスに返信

自分のこと以外に興味ない人だから変に介入してこないからやりやすそうだけど
逆にピンチに陥っても全然助けてくれなさそう

5: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:18:43▼このレスに返信

ギュネイには裏で随分陰口叩かれてたな

7: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:20:13▼このレスに返信

グリプス戦役の結果が地球潰しおじさん

9: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:24:19▼このレスに返信

昨日だか一昨日に立ってた同じようなスレだとゴップが人気だったな

11: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:28:01▼このレスに返信

シャアはシャアの目的の為に必要な仕事をやってる人はちゃんと助けてくれるだろう

14: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:29:50▼このレスに返信

>11
シャアの目的に付き合ってもハッピーになれないんだが

15: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:30:18▼このレスに返信

>11
エゥーゴやネオジオンでシャアが目的を演説して共感して集まったメンバーを裏切ったんだが

12: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:28:33▼このレスに返信

シャアは責任感が全く無いから上司としては最悪だろ
ジオンは復讐目的だから除外としても
アクシズ…指導者に推されるも地球視察の名目で逃亡
エゥーゴ…ブレックスに後を託されたのに組織捨てて逃亡
ネオジオン…アムロと決着つけるために組織を裏切って、結果大敗
こんなヤツに付いていきたいか？

20: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:33:45▼このレスに返信

宇宙世紀で勝つ勢力側で上司にしたい奴なんて条件だとほとんど選択肢がないな

23: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:35:08▼このレスに返信

>20
ゴップだな

27: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:36:51▼このレスに返信

1年戦争時のシャアの部下で生き残った者は一人もいない

28: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:37:53▼このレスに返信

>27
トワイライトアクシズの主役二人は一年戦争時代からの部下よ
後付けキャラだけど

30: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:40:35▼このレスに返信

>27
アポリーとロベルトは

33: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:40:49▼このレスに返信

>27
別に捨てゴマにしてた風もなかったし
シャアが過酷な戦況のところによく出撃してただけじゃないの

36: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:44:28▼このレスに返信

>33
だいだい白い化け物がいるしね
仕方ない気はする

41: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:47:26▼このレスに返信

じゃあブライトさんの部下になったらやってける？

42: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:48:12▼このレスに返信

>41
中間管理職の苦労を部下に当たるからなぁ

44: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:48:34▼このレスに返信

>41
Z以降は普通に
相手がガキ過ぎる現場が悪い

45: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:48:37▼このレスに返信

弾幕が薄いと怒られる

57: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:54:18▼このレスに返信

ガルマが上司ならどうだろ

58: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:54:58▼このレスに返信

>57
時期にもよるが基本的に無能だから…

65: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:56:31▼このレスに返信

>58
カリスマMAXみたいなもんだから部下になったらこいつのためにいろいろしてやろって思うんじゃね

63: 名無し 2020/09/10 01:55:50▼このレスに返信

ジオンならガンダムに遭遇しない上司が絶対条件だな

110: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:15:22▼このレスに返信

ハマーン様が上司だとどうかな

112: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:17:59▼このレスに返信

>110
自分のことしか考えてないし私怨が殆どじゃん

116: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:20:08▼このレスに返信

>110
バラ貰っただけで命を投げ捨てるマシュマーがうらやましい

118: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:21:01▼このレスに返信

あそこ忠臣だろうと強化人間にしちゃうからやだなあ

125: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:23:12▼このレスに返信

>118
強化人間だろうがなんだろうが裏切るからダメなのだ

121: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:22:09▼このレスに返信

シャアは上司としてほどほどに付き合うならまあまあアリじゃないかな
シャアを部下にするのは絶対面倒だからやだな
他人を利用するにしても部下はそこまでハメたりしないし

159: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:37:49▼このレスに返信

部下の視界塞いで敵のビーム直撃させる上司とか
後ろからよく撃たれてませんね・・・

166: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:42:20▼このレスに返信

>159
これの話か

162: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:39:57▼このレスに返信

随伴してたズゴック二機ともやられてたけど、シャアが無能なのかジャブローがえげつないのかどっちだろ

168: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:42:49▼このレスに返信

>162
ジャブローがえぐい
元々勝ち目の薄いところに突っ込まざるを得なくなってる状況
ズゴックはあの時点でジャブロー攻略の主力機体だしシャアに随伴してるぐらいだからパイロットも腕のあるほうだろうけどそれですら溶けた

167: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:42:46▼このレスに返信

リー・ホアンェ…

169: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:43:28▼このレスに返信

降りられるのかよぉ！

170: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:43:43▼このレスに返信

水泳部が空中で変態機動すんなや！

171: 名無し 2020/09/10 02:44:24▼このレスに返信

ズゴックなら泳いできなさいよ！

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/10(Thu) 22:07:23 ID：af3472774 ★コメ返信★

何回みてもズゴックの空中適性高そうで笑う
無敵ステップ並みの理不尽さを感じる
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/10(Thu) 22:12:38 ID：0a1f1bcac ★コメ返信★

シャアズゴック回避力やべぇ
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/10(Thu) 22:18:45 ID：92053e479 ★コメ返信★

直の上司としてはそんなに悪くない
どころか割と気さくで良い感じなんだけど
如何せんいつも最前線で腕も尋常じゃないからついていくのも大変そう
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/10(Thu) 22:20:49 ID：7081a179d ★コメ返信★

ガウからの降下時に真横にスライドして対空砲火回避するとか、シャア以外に出来るヤツいないだろ
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/10(Thu) 22:32:39 ID：51935a283 ★コメ返信★

操縦技術だけで物理法則ねじ曲げる男だからな…
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/10(Thu) 23:03:10 ID：0c5658cfb ★コメ返信★

本来なら指示出す立場だろうに、毎回突出するからなぁ…
しかも突出して敵の攻撃を引っ張って来る癖に、後方の味方には気を配らない死神や

Zでもコイツのせいで味方が死んでたし
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/10(Thu) 23:12:57 ID：aa16ae457 ★コメ返信★

地頭はいいし、隊は割りとアットホームだから一上司として付いていくなら理想に近い。
ただ何か琴線に触れて見放されるとその優しい顔のままで気付かれないように死地に送り出す悪魔に変わる。
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 01:13:15 ID：cb0701d8a ★コメ返信★

シャアの目的手伝ったらって目的知ったら謀殺されるじゃないですかー
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 01:14:43 ID：7036cd537 ★コメ返信★

シャアは毎回部下見捨てて自分だけ逃げてるみたいなこと言ってる奴はちゃんと本編見てるのか気になるね
隊長なのに突出するのはアムロだよ
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 01:29:03 ID：d31da0997 ★コメ返信★

オリジンのキャラ設定も入れるなら
同期の友人に対しても酷いやつだったろ
部下なんかになったらもっと目的の為の露骨な駒扱いだろう
本人の一番の存在でもあろうララァでさえ欲求を満たしてくれるだけの存在だからな
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 01:32:26 ID：42b48d4a4 ★コメ返信★

アポリーとロベルトは元ジオンってだけでシャアの部下ではないよ
シャアの部下なのは漫画オリジナル設定
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 01:32:59 ID：d7d0f59d9 ★コメ返信★

情けない奴だからなぁ
誰かに期待されると逃げる
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 01:33:37 ID：34307b9e9 ★コメ返信★

Ｚ時代はカミーユをフォローしてたから…
メンタルケアは出来なかったが物理的にはかなり助けてたから…
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 01:44:31 ID：d31da0997 ★コメ返信★

アクシズでの好待遇を得るためだけに
ハマーン手籠めにしてマハラジャ・カーンにも気に入られようとした説
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16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 07:24:59 ID：5191b53a4 ★コメ返信★

普段はいい上司だけど最終的には捨て駒にされそう
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 08:48:09 ID：27827c648 ★コメ返信★

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19. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 12:20:16 ID：113092c38 ★コメ返信★

それこそ最初にコロニー潜入した時に指示通り偵察で終わって帰ってれば戦争の結末はともかく、シャアの隊は問題なかったはず
20. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 13:54:04 ID：79f4af20b ★コメ返信★

優秀な上司なんだが部下に求めるハードルも高くてついて行けない感じだろうな
21. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/11(Fri) 23:28:06 ID：72910a345 ★コメ返信★

一見上司として有能っぽく見えるけど実は単独の方が能力発揮できる上にその自覚がない地雷上司だよシャアは。コイツが理想の上司に見えたらちょっと理想を見つめ直した方がいい
22. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/12(Sat) 00:53:31 ID：e13fae87f ★コメ返信★

アスランも真っ青な蝙蝠野郎じゃん
23. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/12(Sat) 20:49:52 ID：a734345a4 ★コメ返信★

人格云々の前に部下の生還率が絶望的なんだけど。
24. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/15(Tue) 07:55:00 ID：a54bdce38 ★コメ返信★

1stはアレで部下の評判も良いし
Zでもカミーユは勿論だがそれ以外のフォローにも積極的だった
必要以上に叩いてる人はいったい何を見たんかね？
25. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/20(Sun) 22:19:32 ID：44c861a59 ★コメ返信★

能力とやる気のある部下にはどんどん重要な仕事任せてるし、ちゃんと信頼もしてるから上司としては理想的だと思う
ドレンに艦の指揮権をあたえたり、フラガナン・ブーンにスパイとの接触やグラブロでの出撃をやらせたり。
26. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/20(Sun) 23:37:45 ID：9b151c52a ★コメ返信★

シャアの部下と言うとエルメスのときに｢ニュータイプだけでいいんじゃね？｣ってなって職場放棄したバタシャムってどうなったっけ
ゲルググの腕切られてエルメスもやられた戦闘で死んだっけ
27. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/09/26(Sat) 03:21:11 ID：1af55deca ★コメ返信★

なんだかんだ言ってもカリスマ性に目が眩んで、人格に絆されてついて行って死んじゃいそう
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