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【ガンダム】これって本当にゼータから簡略化されてるんですかね…

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簡略化?
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フライングアーマーない分はされてるな
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>1
ZⅡはこのシルエットをベースにして普通の戦闘機っぽくすることはできんかったのかな
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簡略化
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アナハイムの連中は頭の良いアホだから仕方がない
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Z IIの変型ってなんのためだっけ?
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変形のための変形
ガンダムの可変モビルスーツってそんなのばっかり
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ゼータの変形で最も無茶苦茶な部分はほぼ踏襲している怪奇現象
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MG作るとボディほぼほぼゼータじゃんってなる
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股関節の変形はゼータより複雑化してるまであるからなリゼル
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腕をパタパタ畳むのは絶対にやめない!
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変形中シールド空飛んでんのかよ()みたいな意見のためかどうか知らないが
シールドやライフル動かす用の謎アーム追加されるのがのんか嫌
手でええやんロボットなんだしと思ってしまう
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しょうがないにゃあ
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>14
理屈はリ・ガズィと同じ
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正直こいつが一番合理的だと思うわ
宇宙世紀ではそういう事にならなかったからどうしようも無いが
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まあゲタがあるし
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下駄並みの推力はハナから内蔵しておいて捨てるのはモビルスーツ戦では過剰になる大火力装備ってのが果たしてコスパ悪いのかという
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簡略化なんかしてねぇ
ゼータより不可解なパーツ移動してんぞZⅡ
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ZZの方がよっぽど簡略化してるように見える
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プラスで簡略化したのがウイングバインダーのアームだけだしきっとアナハイム的にはあのアームが一番の鬼門だったんだろう
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キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
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ゼータタイプの股関節は脆い(プラモの話です)
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ZプラスのMG折ったなあ
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RG君触るの怖い
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リガズィまでいくともうゲタでいいのでは?ってなるし難しい
寝そべり変形そんなに嫌だったのかなリガズィカスタムは思い切り寝そべりだけど
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ゼータ顔は変形しなくてはいけない呪いがアナザーにまで掛けられている
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どうもコズミックイラのゼータです
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これを主力機として量産するオーブはやべえわ
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プラモの再販早よ
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初期設定考えた人まさか商品化するとは思ってなかったと思うよ
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GFFで初めて見た時はゼッツー一目惚れだったな…
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ゼータプラスが簡略化したのは変形機構でははなく大気圏内専用に再設計したところ
そして大気圏突入させる必要も無くなりその結果フライングアーマーを下まで回さなくて良くなった
その後宇宙用も作られる事になる
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この変形形態ってアナハイムの特許になってそう
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これで良かったんじゃねえの感
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>76
アニメで盾がくっつくときにガイドビーコン出る描写実は好き
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>76
それはそれで背負ってるものの固定に不安がある
プラモ狂四郎的に強度上の弱点描写に使われるんじゃないかって思ってたがそんなことなかった
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>76
プラモとはいえリガズィカスタムの完成系だとは思う
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0.5秒であの変形が出来るZはマジですごいよな
横浜ガンダムが動いてるのみてなおさらそう思ったわ
宇宙世紀の技術力を1番感じる部分かもしれん
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  1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/01(Mon) 18:18:19 ID:ed5f44881            ★コメ返信★

    Z系はまだハンブラビほどは無意味じゃないから…

  2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/01(Mon) 18:56:47 ID:1565e7baf            ★コメ返信★

    膝がZのクランク変形から180度曲げるだけになってる
    胸部の跳ね上げは可動ポイントが2つから2つに
    ウイングバインダーやフライングアーマーがないため背面はほぼそのまま

    実際結構簡略化してる

  3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/01(Mon) 20:01:13 ID:601323cc6            ★コメ返信★

    フレームの強度を考えると、キュリオスぐらいの変形が無難なのかね?

  4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/01(Mon) 20:32:07 ID:8f91c5381            ★コメ返信★

    簡略化ではない、「最適化」だ!!

  5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/02(Tue) 00:07:17 ID:806651a26            ★コメ返信★

    変形はロマン
    変形する方がたぶん売れるし

  6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/02(Tue) 00:16:05 ID:483cdbb3d            ★コメ返信★

    >リガズィまでいくともうゲタでいいのでは?ってなるし

    いや、なるか?
    BWSは文字通り武器だし
    プロペラントタンクくらいしかSFS機能は無いのに

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    ※3
    00のキュリオス系列とXのエアマスターは航空機の形に変形する可変MSの最適解だと思ってる

  9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/02(Tue) 05:42:18 ID:5a3735319            ★コメ返信★

    アニメのZの変形は実際には不可能だからな。

  10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/02(Tue) 08:07:04 ID:e003912ee            ★コメ返信★

    変形内容の簡略化じゃなく変形機構の簡略化だからZみたいなぐちゃぐちゃ変形と超高性能の両立させた構造からは簡略化してるんだよ

  11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/02(Tue) 09:49:58 ID:c0645db21            ★コメ返信★

    ダセェけど寝そべり変形のほうが合理的なんよな

  12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/02(Tue) 11:29:51 ID:fffbcf528            ★コメ返信★

    正直魚の開きみたいなZの変形の方がよほどダサいと思う

  13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/02(Tue) 21:42:38 ID:fb903cebb            ★コメ返信★

    76の写真のプラモって何ですか??

  14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/16(Tue) 19:25:06 ID:9cf310718            ★コメ返信★

    ※13
    ビルド系のライトニングガンダムだと思ふ

  15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/23(Tue) 10:31:59 ID:58218c0b9            ★コメ返信★

    ギャプランで良かったと思う。
    ガブスレイの変形も合理的(足以外)。

  16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/23(Tue) 10:33:24 ID:58218c0b9            ★コメ返信★

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    膝関節からのスラスターで加速、ハンドクローも使えるので疑似MA。

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