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アニメや現実の演説ってそんなに洗脳効果あるもんなの？

1: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:04:58▼このレスに返信

演説ってそんなに洗脳効果あるもんなの？

2: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:08:45▼このレスに返信

士気+5

5: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:10:20▼このレスに返信

しっかり効果を計算して演出すりゃ行ける
その辺が駄目駄目だと無惨な事に

7: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:12:48▼このレスに返信

演説を聞き入る環境も必要だよね
恵まれていたらよほどの状況じゃないと人の話なんて聞かない

12: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:13:32▼このレスに返信

>7
スマホイジイジしながらとかだと効果ないよね…

6: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:11:04▼このレスに返信

スレ画の演説にブチギレてテレビを壊したアムロ

15: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:14:56▼このレスに返信

>6
マイナスをプラスにはできんわなあ
それなりに支持されてる状況で、演出や会場の一体感とかで盛り上げて煽るブースト効果までだろう

8: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:13:09▼このレスに返信

というか元から洗脳されてないと
弟の葬式で戦意高揚始める兄貴とか普通の人は引くんじゃね

17: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:16:24▼このレスに返信

>8
弟が国民にとってのアイドル状態だったから効果はあるだろうし戦時中ならむしろやらないとマズくね

35: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:36:03▼このレスに返信

ブライトさんには響かない

42: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:48:49▼このレスに返信

>35
本当に響かなきゃ坊やだからさとかビデオに撮っとけとか言う

10: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:13:22▼このレスに返信

どの口が…どの口が言うのかっっ!!

53: 名無し 2022/05/10 10:21:28▼このレスに返信

父ジオンのもとに召されるであろうて何なの？

54: 名無し 2022/05/10 10:25:07▼このレスに返信

>53
昔は斜に構えて演説見てた人がなあ

56: 名無し 2022/05/10 10:34:51▼このレスに返信

>53
スペースノイドや難民のための政治を手に入れる為に戦ってるだけで手に入れた後権力の座に就く気はないって意味かな
あくまで虐げられている人の為に戦っているって表現

24: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:21:46▼このレスに返信

立てよ国民とか今時流行らんでしょう

25: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:22:45▼このレスに返信

>24
北がやるかもな

27: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:23:58▼このレスに返信

>24
戦争が生活に近いなら効果はあるんじゃね、それこそ戦争初期のウクライナとかそんな雰囲気だし
逆に日本はどれだけ危機的になっても国民に銃を取れは届かないだろうなぁ

29: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:26:10▼このレスに返信

>27
大衆メディアが戦争もやむなしと論調あおるパターンかな
けっこう国民性でるね

30: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:26:57▼このレスに返信

>27
島国だから「戦争ヤバイ！」が身近になった時はもう手遅れや

41: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:48:48▼このレスに返信

迷走してる愚民には効きまくるよ

65: 名無し 2022/05/10 12:40:52▼このレスに返信

>41
ww1敗戦以降確かに経済が疲弊してる状況だったのも事実で
後　彼は間違い無く演説は名手

62: 名無し 2022/05/10 11:43:08▼このレスに返信

ヒトラーに関しちゃマジで魔術か？ってぐらいすごいな
ぽっと出の学もない小物なんて論破してやんよって部屋に入ったインテリがハイル！ハイル！って出てくるレベル

55: 名無し 2022/05/10 10:30:12▼このレスに返信

よくわかんないけど自信満々に凄そうな事話してたら確かに…ってなるかも

58: 名無し 2022/05/10 10:48:24▼このレスに返信

場の空気に呑まれる感じなんだろうな
コミケでついいっぱい買っちゃったり祭りではしゃいじゃったりの政治版？

59: 名無し 2022/05/10 10:50:57▼このレスに返信

>58
割と近い
円天とかの詐欺なんかも

31: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:27:45▼このレスに返信

テレワークでオンライン社長演説やったけど誰も聞いてなさそうだった

36: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:37:44▼このレスに返信

>31
同じ場を共有してるっていうのも要素の一つだからオンラインはな
録画でも変わらないし

38: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:41:41▼このレスに返信

>36
モニターなり紙面なり、壁が一枚あれば効果は激減だろうね
どうしたって客観的視点が出てくる

28: 名無し 2022/05/10 09:25:25▼このレスに返信

今のご時勢だと情報を広域に拡散させる手段はいっぱいあるけど
会場の一体感、みたいなライブ的盛り上がりは伝わりにくいから
その辺は難しいかも

67: 名無し 2022/05/10 13:01:53▼このレスに返信

自分の不満を代弁してくれる奴が出ればあっさり乗るよ現状は多きな変化を望むほどの不満はないけど

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/11(Wed) 17:34:20 ID：5c7f0cd63 ★コメ返信★

演説上手い奴が人気と勢い作れるのなんてヒトラー以降ゼレンスキーまで腐るほど例があるのに今まで何を見てきたんだ
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/11(Wed) 17:46:07 ID：a2e3cd1de ★コメ返信★

トランプ旋風もそうだし、ヒトラー擁立もそうだし、フィリピンのドゥテルテやゼレンスキーも、歴代韓国大統領も、日本の政権交代前の鳩山や、再交代の際の安倍も、全員が集団が求める敵を作り上げてその不満をぶつけるから熱狂的な支持者が出る。
自分の意見を代弁してくれた気分になるんやろな。現状の不満を見える敵にぶつけさせる言葉の有無や。
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/11(Wed) 17:59:06 ID：3c12b66c6 ★コメ返信★

ネオジオンもシャアがまさか地球破壊しようとするとは思うまい
冗談だと思ってたら本気だったから止めに入る
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/11(Wed) 18:26:16 ID：7154f37e1 ★コメ返信★

ガンダム00はソレスタルビーイングが人類を洗脳したからバッドエンドだよなぁ
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/11(Wed) 18:29:17 ID：6b27a4fbf ★コメ返信★

なんてこたー無い。コロニー内とか遭難中の一部隊とか、
「外部情報シャットアウト」された環境で演説されれば信用するしかない。
だって「嘘だ！」っていう根拠が何にもないんだからｗ
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/11(Wed) 18:31:12 ID：f2a236c97 ★コメ返信★

個人レベルでも支離滅裂でアホなことをそれっぽく堂々と言えば真に受けるやつも出るんだからそれを政治家が組織の旗掲げてやれば1%しか騙せなくても例えば日本なら100万人は釣れる
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/11(Wed) 20:16:00 ID：a34c19777 ★コメ返信★

現実にドイツ国民やロシア国民はヒトラーやプーチンを選挙で選んであのザマなんだよね・・・

反応:※11
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/11(Wed) 20:22:18 ID：c64bb3334 ★コメ返信★

後国民の生活状態も大きく影響あると思うね。
やっぱり生活状態が不安定とか不況とかだといろいろ効きやすい。
「皆して何とかしなきゃでも旗頭は誰が・・・」が一番のタイミングでしょ。
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/11(Wed) 22:55:37 ID：51d877d7a ★コメ返信★

まぁ衆愚や愚民なんて言葉があるくらいには民衆なんて無能なアホしか居ないし
確証のない噂だけで人間を自殺に追い込める無能な衆愚のニュースちょくちょくやってるしな
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/12(Thu) 01:53:21 ID：1fcf14adf ★コメ返信★

戦争始まってから各国の元首が何回スピーチやってると思ってんだ。
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/12(Thu) 06:07:59 ID：fdf1f05d1 ★コメ返信★

※7
ナチスの権力奪取は非合法手段によるものだし、ロシアは民主化されていないぞ。
民主主義指数ってご存じない?
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/12(Thu) 08:36:46 ID：d8cf9b4d7 ★コメ返信★

今の時代に大衆を扇動したいなら演説よりも、謎の勢力による(ように思える)ヤフコメとかの同調圧力の方が効くんだぜ…。
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/05/12(Thu) 11:02:17 ID：9df5c1436 ★コメ返信★

戦争でなくとも、小泉郵政改革の時も民主党政権誕生の時も凄かったじゃん
大した演説でもないのにマスコミが盛り上げる片棒を担いで、国民もそれに乗った
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