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    ここまでくると「ガンダム」ってなんなのかわからなくなるよな



    1: 名無し 2022/07/10 08:48:57▼このレスに返信

    ガンダムとは一体何なのだろうか
    10: 名無し 2022/07/10 08:56:20▼このレスに返信
    俺もガンダム
    お前もガンダム
    19: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:00:06▼このレスに返信
    ガンダムとは人々の希望なんだよ
    戦争を止めるための
    23: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:01:58▼このレスに返信
    >19
    宇宙移民をいじめてきたものだと聞いています
    30: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:03:58▼このレスに返信

    人々は戦うための力をガンダムと呼んだ
    とGジェネでもいってる
    42: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:07:58▼このレスに返信
    本来なら別作品としてロボットアニメを作れそうなデザインまで
    ガンダム作品に組み込んじゃったせいで他の作品は育たなくなるし
    肝心のモビルスーツの定義もよくわからなくなってしまった
    44: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:10:12▼このレスに返信
    >42
    しょうがないだろう売れなかったんだし
    91: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:28:48▼このレスに返信
    >44
    ドラグナーもガンダムってタイトルにすればよかったんだ
    93: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:29:49▼このレスに返信
    >91
    アナザーガンダム0号みたいなもんだよね
    226: 名無し 2022/07/10 10:11:53▼このレスに返信
    >91
    ザブングル以降のものは全部ガンダムでいいよ
    ガンダムガリアンなんて今ならフツーにありそう
    45: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:10:47▼このレスに返信
    MSの定義って元々ガチガチに決まってるわけじゃなくない?
    人が乗る手足がついた巨大ロボがMS人型から離れたらMAくらいの雑な区分でしょ
    47: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:13:03▼このレスに返信
    >45
    連邦の査察ごまかすためにフワッとした名称つけたのが定着した
    48: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:13:38▼このレスに返信
    でも今更ガンダムでMSの事をMSじゃなく例えば急にアーマードなんちゃらとかとか言われてもビックリするぞ
    50: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:14:08▼このレスに返信
    >48
    MF…
    70: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:23:28▼このレスに返信
    >50
    当時はびっくりしたな色々な面で
    55: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:16:14▼このレスに返信
    >48
    マン・マシーン
    51: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:14:57▼このレスに返信
    マーズスーツ…
    53: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:15:50▼このレスに返信
    実はアムロの乗ったRX78以前から
    ガンダムと呼ばれた人型機動兵器が存在していたのかも
    61: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:18:41▼このレスに返信
    かつて西暦と呼ばれた時代にガンダムってアニメ作品があったと
    内容不明の上でテムレイやらACの博士連中やらに伝わっていたのかも知れん
    104: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:33:11▼このレスに返信
    戦争してロボットで戦えばガンダムなんだよ
    106: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:33:43▼このレスに返信
    そこら編にあるロボットアニメをガンダムにしただけってのが多すぎる
    134: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:41:57▼このレスに返信
    >106
    そこらにないガンダムの特色ってなに?ってなる
    137: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:42:51▼このレスに返信
    >134
    ぶっちゃけこれぞガンダム!みたいな特色って特にないよね
    強いて言えば宇宙戦が半ば必須みたいなとこ?
    109: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:33:56▼このレスに返信
    世界観とか思う存分描く代わりに
    全然MSの出てこない奴とかもたまには見たい
    122: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:37:21▼このレスに返信
    >109
    ハサウェイの逃げ惑うシーン良かったよね
    ビームの細かい粒子だけで消火栓やビル壁溶けたりしてMSなんて怪獣と変わらんわと
    またああいうの見たいね
    154: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:48:42▼このレスに返信
    いいかげん子供に戦わせるのやめない?
    最低でも20歳以上にしろよ
    160: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:50:36▼このレスに返信
    20歳以上のガンダム主人公って普通に居たような
    54: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:15:56▼このレスに返信
    学園ガンダムだっけ
    なろうにありそうな設定だな
    66: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:22:28▼このレスに返信
    >54
    学園のアイドルのお嬢様とイケメン特殊工作員が出会ってしまう!
    顔を見てしまった工作員はお嬢様の命を消すために学園に転校生として潜入したのだ!
    それを知らないお嬢様は工作員を誕生日パーティに誘うのだったが…
    67: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:23:09▼このレスに返信
    >66
    あれ?なんか見覚えが…
    156: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:50:08▼このレスに返信
    こんなガンダムもあっていいよねの一案だった女主人公ガンダム実際にお出しされたんだ
    文句はとりあえず見てから言え
    161: 名無し 2022/07/10 09:50:57▼このレスに返信
    >156
    どうせ百合アニメだろクソッタレ
    俺は毎週しか見ないぞ

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 13:57:40 ID:624a19d8c            ★コメ返信★

        ツインアイ!ツインアンテナ!トリコロール!
        の3要素を揃えれば大体ガンダムに見える
        というかそれっぽい配置でトリコロールカラーにするだけでガンダムっぽく見えるのはもうみんな知ってるよね!

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 14:04:00 ID:10e013766            ★コメ返信★

        ガンダム?っていうけどエクシアと大して変わんなくね?

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 14:30:10 ID:85625abba            ★コメ返信★

        ちとズレた話になるけど、シンボルとしてオンリーワンだった存在が次々と増殖していくという意味で、近頃の仮面ライダーがガンダム化してるように感じる。
        今やってるリバイスなんて無計画(&無節操)にライダーが増えて、みんなでライダーになるのが目的の話なのかと思うくらい。

        そりゃガンダムもライダーも、多ければ多いほど戦力が高まるのも分かるんだけどさ…。

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 14:56:32 ID:6cbd995f4            ★コメ返信★

        目が2つついててアンテナはえてりゃガンダム

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 15:04:50 ID:4ca49986c            ★コメ返信★

        エアリアルって見た目だけならかなり全うなガンダム感あるように思えるけど…

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 15:05:54 ID:b0ed85e1f            ★コメ返信★

        だいたいその時代の流行り、その時代に受け入れられるデザインがあるんだからねぇ

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 15:09:32 ID:582e5b1cd            ★コメ返信★

        ローラ・セアック以来の女性主人公の放送作品になるのかな

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 15:19:29 ID:68843e99a            ★コメ返信★

           おまえらキチガイが大好きなもの。

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 15:21:23 ID:46b11749a            ★コメ返信★

        ∀を超えてから言え、どこからどう見てもガンダムじゃないか

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 15:35:27 ID:fb02f994c            ★コメ返信★

        ガンダムって正義と悪って話でもなかったはずだしめちゃくちゃだよな

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 15:43:24 ID:f290ca602            ★コメ返信★

        ※10
        正義の怒りをぶつけろガンダムって言ってるだろいい加減にしろ!

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 15:50:15 ID:0ec688754            ★コメ返信★

        それぞれが持つ正義と善悪の区別が…

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 15:54:39 ID:dbbc23a86            ★コメ返信★

        >>7
        おは御曹司

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 16:35:27 ID:e1840cf41            ★コメ返信★

        ※4
        シスクードというモノアイガンダムがいるぞ

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 16:38:15 ID:ec8b529a9            ★コメ返信★

        そういう意味では「概念としてのガンダム」を扱ったAGEは本当に惜しかった
        もう少し上手く料理出来てたら、ガンダムというモノの扱い方が変わっていたかもしれなかった
        レベル5抜きで再編しねぇかなぁ

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 16:44:15 ID:889416832            ★コメ返信★

        良くも悪くも反骨心の象徴ってブライトさんが言ってた

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 16:55:08 ID:d4fb58138            ★コメ返信★

        戦争でなくてもいいしパイロットがオッサンでなくてもいい
        ただカッコイイロボットが戦ってくれれば「ガンダム」で通用する
        ビルドシリーズのヒットで証明されただろ

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 18:07:26 ID:ca766a453            ★コメ返信★

        ガンダムってなんだろ、ガンダムってなぁに?
        ガンダムみたい!みたいよ!お兄~ちゃん!!

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 18:33:13 ID:e1fe1588d            ★コメ返信★

        増殖、進化、再生を繰り返し他の作品をも養分にするもの、ガンダム

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 18:53:15 ID:d08040b96            ★コメ返信★

        そこらへんのロボアニメをガンダムにしただけとかいう
        最高にそれっぽい批判
        具体例は出ない模様

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 19:15:19 ID:b43f78e1c            ★コメ返信★

        ガンボーイだった可能性

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 19:26:38 ID:f5fdb8b84            ★コメ返信★

        てか今回のこの程度で「ガンダムの定義とは」とか抜かしてる奴らは一体今まで何見て来たんだろう
        全然普通にガンダムだと思うんだが

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 20:46:34 ID:d23fb3c00            ★コメ返信★

        V字ツノ
        二つ目
        トカサにセンサー
        カブト頭と独立した顔
        上から見て凸型の胸部
        両胸にダクト
        盛り上がった膝
        スリッパ
        五本指
        ビーム武器
        腕や腿が四角い断面
        パンツ型の股間と前掛け
        下半身は大部分一色が占める
        ランドセル

        初代とマジンガーZ、バルバトスとヴァルヴレイヴを比較するとガンダムのテンプレが結構見えてくる
        脳内デザインでこれらを消していくと楽しい

      24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 20:48:48 ID:10c092529            ★コメ返信★

        ファンが要求してきた案を着々とお出ししてるんだぞ

      25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 21:04:06 ID:d23fb3c00            ★コメ返信★

        ※20
        いくらでも出るだろ
        特にアナザーはミノフスキー粒子が無いから宇宙世紀がMSに支配された理由が使われない
        そもガンダムのMS以外の設定はスターウォーズと宇宙戦艦ヤマトとスタートレックのゴチャまぜでSFでは在り来りなもの
        ガンダムがオーラバトラーやATに似たものになっても同じ展開の話は作れる
        00はオマージュが強すぎて他のロボに置き換えたらパクリと言われるだろうがね

      26. 26. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 21:09:11 ID:a6f5b49c1            ★コメ返信★

        ※23
        それら微妙に外してくる∀。

      27. 27. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 21:16:22 ID:f81afea0c            ★コメ返信★

        ガンダムじゃないと売れないのは、わかるんだが
        結局、型にはめるから後世に残る作品にはならんのだよな~

      28. 28. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/12(Tue) 23:30:44 ID:7fe1429f5            ★コメ返信★

        ※25
        現にSEEDが言われてる
        まぁ、あれは流石にな・・・

      29. 29. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/13(Wed) 00:35:51 ID:2aecf824d            ★コメ返信★

        ※9
        ∀は酷評だったやん今も

      30. 30. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/13(Wed) 09:11:41 ID:ad6fed6b3            ★コメ返信★

        ※25
        じゃあガンダムって自由じゃん!

      31. 31. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/13(Wed) 09:43:16 ID:2aecf824d            ★コメ返信★

        ※26
        だから駄作なんだ

      32. 32. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/13(Wed) 11:41:18 ID:6c1a6c050            ★コメ返信★

        ※31
        まぁ、「ガンダム」のファン達は世界名作劇場が見たかった訳じゃないしな

      33. 33. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/13(Wed) 13:47:30 ID:7412b2a23            ★コメ返信★

        ※32
        あんなのが名作劇場とか言い訳すんなよ富野信者

      34. 34. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/13(Wed) 15:04:01 ID:7ac7d9a4d            ★コメ返信★

        ※32
        いや、世代的には観たい人も多かったんじゃね。
        だから、該当世代からは十分、評判良いと思う。5年前の人気投票で種死を上回ったのは伊達じゃないよ。

      35. 35. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/13(Wed) 15:32:10 ID:6c1a6c050            ★コメ返信★

        ※33
        はたして現実世界でも同じように強気に振舞えるかな?

      36. 36. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/13(Wed) 17:22:52 ID:6c1a6c050            ★コメ返信★

        割と真面目にGガンダムの成功でその辺りの壁は取っ払われた様に思う

      37. 37. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 06:27:28 ID:5cd15f7e5            ★コメ返信★

        ※35
        せめてネット上くらいはイキらせてあげて❤️

      38. 38. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 13:40:19 ID:91ce74eec            ★コメ返信★

        ※34
        不正だからあれは

      39. 39. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 13:41:47 ID:91ce74eec            ★コメ返信★

        ※35
        言えるぞあんな遺恨を放棄して国を売ったリリ・ボルジャーノと遺恨に触れようともせずアメリアを土足に踏み込んだクズはあんなのを受け入れる奴なんて反社会的だろ

      40. 40. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 16:14:19 ID:5cd15f7e5            ★コメ返信★

        ※38
        数字は嘘をつかないって
        某作の信者が言ってた

      41. 41. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 17:06:51 ID:539ab1ef1            ★コメ返信★

        ※40
        サクラレビュー知らんの?そういう方式だろ

      42. 42. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 20:37:37 ID:5cd15f7e5            ★コメ返信★

        ※41
        すると、21世紀1stを謳って散々数字自慢してたアレも不正だったの?

      43. 43. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 21:16:37 ID:720ca61a1            ★コメ返信★

        ※39
        生身の相手を目前にして、そのイキリっぷりが再現出来るのなら大したもんだがね

      44. 44. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 21:55:04 ID:387548618            ★コメ返信★

        ※42
        それは不正じゃないだろ最初は原作から見るもんだし

      45. 45. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 21:56:03 ID:387548618            ★コメ返信★

        ※43
        対したもの?あれが?あんな売国奴を理想の統治者と認めてるお前がどうかしてるよ

      46. 46. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 22:00:05 ID:720ca61a1            ★コメ返信★

        ※45
        読解力皆無なのが笑えるw
        精々ネットの中だけでイキッてなw

      47. 47. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/14(Thu) 22:47:54 ID:387548618            ★コメ返信★

        ※46
        理解理解求めて言ってる富野信者は不愉快な存在だわあんな統治者がどこが良いんだよムーンレィスに対して損害賠償も録に出さないでいきなり和平を結ぶとか、それが駄目だし不可解で不気味だろ。

      48. 48. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/15(Fri) 00:22:06 ID:0bb5a8ea8            ★コメ返信★

        ※47
        糖質丸出しw

      49. 49. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/15(Fri) 01:29:05 ID:4f2a7e148            ★コメ返信★

        ※48
        は?お前が言ってることが意味不明
        現実でターンエーが名作だの傑作だの
        言ってるのは全然見かけないし
        そんな奴こそネットでイキってる奴だろ

      50. 50. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/15(Fri) 01:30:14 ID:4f2a7e148            ★コメ返信★

        ※48
        どの話に糖質とか言い出してくる辺り富野信者って結構悪い意味でイカれてる存在だな

      51. 51. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/15(Fri) 01:33:25 ID:4f2a7e148            ★コメ返信★

        ※48
        それ何も説明もなしで言い出すとか
        自分の理解が高いと思い上がってるだろ
        あんたみたいなのがインテリだとか思い込んでる方が駄目なんじゃないのか?

      52. 52. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/15(Fri) 04:51:29 ID:50e029428            ★コメ返信★

        ※51
        そもそも45はターンエーの事になんか
        全く触れてなくね?
        単にネットの中だけでイキり散らしてるのはみっともないよ、って言ってるだけで。

      53. 53. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/15(Fri) 04:53:31 ID:50e029428            ★コメ返信★

        ※52
        おっと、45じゃない35だった

      54. 54. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/17(Sun) 07:00:53 ID:845785949            ★コメ返信★

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