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    1: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:10:15▼このレスに返信

    オリジンとサンボルとドアンはAnother U.C.っていつカテゴリ名なんだね知らなかったよ
    magmix.jp/post/101974
    2: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:12:00▼このレスに返信
    外伝なのは分かってたがカテゴリ名までは知らんかったな
    6: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:12:57▼このレスに返信
    TVアニメと劇場も違うカテゴリーだと思うけどアナザーUCの扱いじゃないんだな
    4: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:12:21▼このレスに返信
    >『THE ORIGIN』も『サンダーボルト』も本伝にできるような世界観に変更した方が、派生作品も作りやすく、これまでの作品も、新設定や他作品の存在を留意したリメイクができるのではないでしょうか。
    ううn…
    16: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:34:33▼このレスに返信
    >4
    これで荒れたのにな…
    5: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:12:48▼このレスに返信
    本伝にしたらーって記事では書いてあるけど
    色んなシリーズが一堂に会するゲームだと普通に絡んでるから下手に本筋はイジらないほうがいいと思うな
    12: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:28:19▼このレスに返信
    全部一緒にしたら年表ギッチギチになるよね
    8: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:19:53▼このレスに返信
    サンボル時空は言わずもがなオリジン時空はジャブローに立ち寄るタイミングやガンキャノンの出自とかがね・・・
    13: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:29:15▼このレスに返信
    全部追ってるわけじゃないから実際どうなるかわからないけど
    外伝まとめたらシンマツナガ辺りも複数人いることになったりしそう
    15: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:33:16▼このレスに返信
    >13
    あんたもジョニーライデンと一緒だったのか…
    でもそれならグレイゼータに乗ってた人の正体に説明がつきそう
    21: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:37:54▼このレスに返信
    ガンダムの歴史一つにしちゃったら余計人類に絶望しか感じられなくなるのでは…
    48: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:54:56▼このレスに返信
    サンボルを他作品と繋げるのは無理だろ…
    52: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:57:04▼このレスに返信
    >48
    ザクやジムもサンダーボルト宙域仕様です!とか抜かしてるけど原作じゃ普通に他の戦線でも出てるからな…
    56: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:59:51▼このレスに返信
    >52
    後に「原作」は本筋と関係ないですよ!と言いのけた作者だ
    57: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:00:35▼このレスに返信
    でもよぉバトオペにサンボルのMS出してえじゃん?
    61: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:02:01▼このレスに返信
    >57
    サンボルからもう2機出てるしZdefineの機体もいるからanotherUCでもバトオペには出せますね
    62: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:02:08▼このレスに返信
    アメコミみたいにパラレルワールドたくさん作れば時系列気にせず作れるんじゃないの
    64: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:03:12▼このレスに返信

    fu1278562.jpg
    まぁ現在進行系のUCEでもこんな混乱の元みたいな物を平気でお出ししてるんだが…

    67: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:03:49▼このレスに返信
    >64
    悪い夢すぎる…
    72: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:06:56▼このレスに返信
    エンゲージのムービーは上のジムや連邦のサラミスやマゼランがオリジンデザインなのが気になる
    ジムとそんな形変わってないサラミスはまあバリエーション扱いにできそうだけど
    マゼランは無理だろこれ
    17: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:34:52▼このレスに返信
    何でもかんでも一つの歴史にしようとするのがどれだけ愚かな行いなのか理解していないようだな
    18: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:35:24▼このレスに返信
    >17
    というか08もスターダストメモリーも別にしてよ
    こんがらがってるよ
    25: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:41:20▼このレスに返信
    >17
    オリジンもそうだしサンボルだってMSの設定根本的に変えてる奴もあるのに仕様違いみたいな扱いにしようとするのほんと嫌い
    26: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:42:12▼このレスに返信
    >25
    一時期プラモのインストでもORIGIN設定を宇宙世紀に混ぜ込もうとする邪悪な力働いてたよね…
    39: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:46:54▼このレスに返信
    >26
    曖昧にすることによってなんかこういろんな余地が広がるんだろう
    112: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:21:34▼このレスに返信
    何でもかんでもやたら繋げたがってるのは公式サイドだからなー
    91: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:13:31▼このレスに返信
    時系列の前後なんて気にせずその作品だけ楽しめばいいんだけどそうもいかないんだろうか
    109: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:20:50▼このレスに返信
    >91
    繋がりのあるなしで売り上げが違うんでない?
    115: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:22:00▼このレスに返信
    >109
    正史扱いの作品だけ追ってればそれでいいって僧は割と一定数いるからね…
    31: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:44:40▼このレスに返信
    もう10年戦争くらいにしようぜ
    37: 名無し 2022/07/23 15:46:10▼このレスに返信
    >31
    これで連邦はあと10年は戦える!
    ってネタはさておきそれくらいの規模じゃないと開発計画がおかしすぎる…
    86: 名無し 2022/07/23 16:12:13▼このレスに返信
    ガノタがどうこうじゃなくもはや作品そのものがめんどくさいんだなと思った

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 19:50:49 ID:081ef4121            ★コメ返信★

        オリジンなんかはキャラの設定なんかはもうほとんど正史として扱ってね
        TVアニメ化も映画化もしたし

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 19:54:37 ID:6f002bd80            ★コメ返信★

        時空犯罪もオカルトパワーも全部ミノフスキーつぶっこが悪いんじゃ

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 20:29:24 ID:8e51139ad            ★コメ返信★

        パラレルだから整合性気にせず自由にやれるのに

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 20:31:18 ID:52e268b90            ★コメ返信★

        全部の作品それぞれ別時空でいいじゃん
        ファーストテレビ版と劇場版も違っていいし
        ファーストの続編だけどゼータは続き物でもいいし続き物じゃなくてもいい
        同じ年表上に存在すると明言しなければいっぱい増やせるぞ

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 20:32:23 ID:8cbf01c74            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        逆にそういう勘違いをされないように、AnotherU.C.なんて具合にカテゴライズされてるのだろう。

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 20:41:59 ID:4d1eb1acf            ★コメ返信★

        サンボル大好きだけど、正史に組み込んで欲しいなんて思った事は一度も無いな。
        世界観だけを借りた、全く別物だと思ってるからイライラもしないし。

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 20:44:50 ID:081ef4121            ★コメ返信★

        ドアン観に行った奴でこれはパラレルだからって思ってた奴多分2割もいない

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 20:51:49 ID:38bfa1a32            ★コメ返信★

        俺は記事に同意だな

        0080や0083も08も今ならアナザーUC扱いだろうけど、
        そこを無理矢理正史に入れてるから面白いのであって
        アナザーUCは甘えだと思う

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 21:18:36 ID:8cf57b21a            ★コメ返信★

        0083とサンボル認めたら、それ以降の宇宙世紀の「苦闘」が意味ねーじゃんw

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 21:21:36 ID:081ef4121            ★コメ返信★

        0083はパラレルだろとしか思えんが正史扱いになってるんだわ

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 22:12:42 ID:052e6e4ca            ★コメ返信★

        オリジンやサンボルまで正史にしちまうくらいならベルチルも正史にするべきだし、でもそれは齟齬が無視できないわけなんで、まとめてパラレルでいいんじゃね

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 22:23:38 ID:53fe3ac00            ★コメ返信★

        別に再構築は再構築で良い
        というかそれがアナザーUCだし
        ただそれ以前の本伝が消えたりすることもない
        過去の名作を無かった事にして歴史を一新しようなんてファンが受け入れるはずがないんだわ

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/23(Sat) 23:44:39 ID:ef24966fd            ★コメ返信★

        全部劇中劇!(マクロスしぐさ

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 00:26:26 ID:9b38deda8            ★コメ返信★

        ※7
        見に行った人間のどれくらいがガンダム知ってるかによるな。
        原作知ってたら地上でスレッガー出て来た時点で普通に「ああ、これはパラレルなのか」って思うだろ、むしろ

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 04:10:07 ID:e72d219ba            ★コメ返信★

        V作戦←始めてMS開発に着手しました。
        RX計画←V作戦前(開戦前)に既にMS開発と運用も模索してました。

        誰も突っ込んでないが静止が後付け祭りでこれだぞ?パラレル定義とはなんぞやw

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 05:29:08 ID:56c909b95            ★コメ返信★

        >記事17
        その典型が∀だよな あれはマジでSFとしては失格で嫌われるのは当然

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 07:47:59 ID:dc5c11ae3            ★コメ返信★

        >記事5
        本筋弄らない方が良いとはいうけど、08小隊とか既に本筋と矛盾しまくりの作品もあるからなぁ・・・
        だから08は劇中劇扱いされるのも分かる気がする。

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 07:56:22 ID:9b38deda8            ★コメ返信★

        ターンエーは未来を固定しても、過去の可能性は無限に存在できるってのを示してるわけで、歴史の一本化とはむしろ真逆だろ。

        で、0083は歴史のスキマを描いてるから正史に組み込める。サンボルやORIGINは正史で描かれてるのと同じ時代(オリジンだと同じキャラクターまで)を描いてるので正史と異なるAnotherU.C.とするしかない。

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 10:14:24 ID:cf3895fc1            ★コメ返信★

        正史と同じ時系列描いて矛盾してる点が多々あるのにどうやって組み込むんだよ

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 10:31:48 ID:b93811f91            ★コメ返信★

        >記事112
        謎の勢力「公式が勝手に正史扱いしてるだけ」

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 11:00:46 ID:a57c2a81e            ★コメ返信★

        ※13
        それは監督の個人的な意見だから

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 16:18:48 ID:f6c28dfc0            ★コメ返信★

        富野関わってなかったら二次創作

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 16:38:39 ID:95b42e6ad            ★コメ返信★

        ※22
        ではアムロが途中で死んで、カイ達がシャアと一緒にジオン本国に乗り込んでギレンを倒すのは正史だな

      24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 17:36:40 ID:db30ecbfc            ★コメ返信★

        ※23
        キシリアの狙撃の腕すごい事になってるよね

      25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/24(Sun) 19:52:53 ID:dc5c11ae3            ★コメ返信★

        ※19

        韓国の歴史とかアナザー作品みたいなもんだけど、あの国では正史とかそんな感じで。

      26. 26. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/25(Mon) 09:03:10 ID:e32509a5f            ★コメ返信★

        >記事26
        むしろバンダイ(サンライズ)があわよくば正史に上書きしようとした作品だぞ
        実際始まった時は概ね良好な受け取られ方だったと思う
        だけど安彦時空が発生し過ぎて「これじゃない」感が出てきた
        連載開始の時にハゲが「全てお任せしました」「口出ししません」って言ってたのは、それを見越したわけじゃないんだろうが賢い発言だったなぁと今なら思う

      27. 27. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/25(Mon) 16:00:39 ID:86004d371            ★コメ返信★

        ※22
        富野が一番つまらないくせに何を言ってるだ?

      28. 28. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/07/25(Mon) 16:01:39 ID:86004d371            ★コメ返信★

        ※18
        でも辻褄が合わないじゃん何を言い訳して擁護してるだよ気持ち悪いんだよ富野信者

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