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    人類が増えたから宇宙に移民させるって超優しい考え方だよな



    1: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:23:14▼このレスに返信

    人類の数が増えすぎたとか最初に言い出したのは一体誰なんだろう?
    4: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:26:12▼このレスに返信
    増えたから宇宙に移民させようとか超優しい考え方だよね
    今だと絶対に紛争とかその手の手段で減らしたほうがコスパいいわで終わる
    110: 名無し 2022/10/02 08:44:35▼このレスに返信
    >4
    宇宙移民関係の産業でものすごく利益が出る時代があったんだろうな
    今じゃ金食いだけでそんな妄想もできないけれど
    5: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:27:40▼このレスに返信
    棄民政策でも地球の辺境に住まわせるよりよっぽど優しい
    20: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:37:01▼このレスに返信
    一方からの理屈で人口が多すぎるって安易に減らすと経済衰退と文明の衰退が連動しておこるからなぁ
    慎重に経済圏を増やすのが一番なんだが宇宙開発はなんでかみんな嫌いだから
    106: 名無し 2022/10/02 08:40:16▼このレスに返信
    >20
    宇宙に行き来するのにコストがかかりすぎる…
    まだ深海にでもコロニー作った方がマシ
    6: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:27:50▼このレスに返信
    今でも相変わらず多すぎるんだぞ
    地球の人間がみんな日本人並みの生活したらあっという間に何もかも食いつぶす
    今のままでは人間は頭打ちだ
    7: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:29:08▼このレスに返信
    先進国はドコモ少子化だしアフリカも今後は減るんだろ
    8: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:30:00▼このレスに返信
    >7
    見損ないましたauにします
    22: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:38:41▼このレスに返信
    100年以内に地球全体で減少に転じるんだっけ
    9: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:30:12▼このレスに返信
    現状地球に土地なんて有り余ってるし何なら海上や海中に進出してもいいし
    食糧生産なら地球も宇宙も変わらんし
    173: 名無し 2022/10/02 10:10:37▼このレスに返信
    >9
    地球上での食糧生産は地球環境に悪影響大きすぎるのよ
    人口が増えれば増えるほどこの影響は大きくなる
    27: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:41:01▼このレスに返信
    資本の大半が地球にあるうちは宇宙に住む意味なんてないけどこれが逆転すると事情は変わる
    ようするに経済の重心がどこにあるかの問題だ
    アメリカだって16世紀当時のヨーロッパから見れば宇宙と大差なかった
    10: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:31:43▼このレスに返信
    土地の問題より資源とエネルギーの問題が深刻だ
    結局20世紀以降の世界はそれを奪い合ってる
    13: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:32:38▼このレスに返信
    宇宙に住むくらいなら南極北極エベレスト山頂の方がマシだよな
    17: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:35:30▼このレスに返信
    >13
    温度や酸素に関してはそうだけど
    宇宙には風速30m超のブリザードとか雪崩れとかはないから
    一概にどっちとも言えん
    98: 名無し 2022/10/02 08:33:58▼このレスに返信
    >17
    その代わり秒速10km以上のスペースデブリとかあるし
    14: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:34:15▼このレスに返信
    資源目当てなら軌道エレベーター作って周辺の惑星から資源を地球に持ってきたほうがいいな
    18: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:36:40▼このレスに返信
    >14
    そのうち地上に下ろしたり上げたりするコスト無駄なんじゃね?
    って気づく
    16: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:35:11▼このレスに返信
    そんな科学力があるなら砂漠を住めるようにしてるよ
    15: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:34:56▼このレスに返信
    宇宙に住むくらいなら先に砂漠を緑化しろなどという人いるけど
    人が増え続けるという問題は解決しないよな
    29: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:43:25▼このレスに返信
    ホワイトベースみたいな巨大宇宙空母が大気中で浮いてるような世界だもんな・・・
    34: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:45:56▼このレスに返信
    >29
    あれ空中都市作れるよな
    26: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:40:40▼このレスに返信
    ガンダムの世界っていろんなブレイクスルーや謎資源や謎技術が溢れてるから一概に現実と比較はできん
    21: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:37:36▼このレスに返信
    子供の頃は疑問に思ってなかったけど今になってみると宇宙にコロニー作ってまで住む必然性が無いって気づく
    25: 名無し 2022/10/02 07:40:33▼このレスに返信
    >21
    地球で大絶滅が起こった場合のスペアでしかない
    小惑星帯まで広がれば太陽に何か起こるまでは大丈夫になる
    174: 名無し 2022/10/02 10:16:22▼このレスに返信
    >21
    地球環境なんて破局噴火で一瞬で終了するから宇宙に出れるなら出るに越したことはないぞ

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 14:47:01 ID:097aedfd5            ★コメ返信★

        >記事106
        気密性と水圧に耐えられ海底地震や海底噴火にも脱出出来るくらいには耐えてもらわないといけないとかなると宇宙より海底のが大変なんじゃ?

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 14:50:33 ID:097aedfd5            ★コメ返信★

        宇宙に追い出されて搾取されたり鉄血のスペースデブリや保険や退職金無し労災あって怪我したら解雇で生きてくのがやっとの虐殺された労働者にされるんじゃと思うわ。どうせ上級国民とかは地球にしがみつくんでしょうかばれないわ。

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 15:34:28 ID:338c73948            ★コメ返信★

        海洋汚染とか乱獲とかも考えての宇宙移民じゃないのかなあと
        自然に甘えることなく養殖だけでなんとかしないとねみたいな

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 15:45:46 ID:b338eabc7            ★コメ返信★

        言われてみれば、「地表人が増えすぎて、どんな厄災がふりかかったのか?」何にも語られてないねぇ。今のゲリラ豪雨とか連射台風とかハリケーンなんて甘っちょろい現象じゃなくてね。

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 16:12:53 ID:62539a727            ★コメ返信★

        宇宙で自給自足出来るんなら搾取や差別なんて無視すれば良いし地球なんざ知ったこっちゃ無いわな
        袖付きはラプラスの箱で時間稼ぎしようとしてたがそんな物に頼らなくても勝手にサイド共栄圏は構築されただろうにやっぱネオジオンもアホだわ
        現実でコロニー作っても政府が管理出来る訳も無し移民者は独立して勝手に生活してるだろう

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 16:25:22 ID:e472a75ee            ★コメ返信★

        ※2
        どうせ地球に居ても搾取されるしそいつらが地球を運営出来るはずもなく地球再生の名分に地球へ棄民されまた入れ替わり数百年後には立場が逆転する

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 16:45:33 ID:57f52ef9b            ★コメ返信★

        現実の山頂の山小屋さえ維持費はおろか何するにもクソコスト掛かるのに
        全く0の宇宙だとどうなるだかな。

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 16:57:19 ID:57f52ef9b            ★コメ返信★

        コロニーよりも月面だの火星だのに移住開拓した方がコスパや安全面でも
        宇宙空間より楽な気もするが主にグラナダしかできてないのも謎だよな。

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 17:13:25 ID:2e71dec5a            ★コメ返信★

        ドバイとか見ちゃうと地球でいいじゃんてなるわな

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 17:42:59 ID:b338eabc7            ★コメ返信★

        チタマ連邦「宇宙線防御?そんなのテキトーで。数で勝負!」
        コロニー公社「資材運べば大儲けw」
        れんぽー軍「テロリストはG3ガスでミナゴロシ・・・くすくすw」
        いい時代じゃないかw

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 17:43:55 ID:e35f146b7            ★コメ返信★

        ※8
        月は兎も角不安定な気候の火星を開拓するのは不可能
        宇宙ステーションの応用と考えれば安全性とコスパはコロニーの方が上と思われる

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 17:50:00 ID:7be3eda6e            ★コメ返信★

        ※8
        フォン・ブラウン「

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/02(Sun) 18:27:32 ID:9c4978782            ★コメ返信★

        後年に富野も語っていたが、「宇宙に数千万人単位で住めるコロニーを創る科学力があるなら、砂漠に創った方が遥かに簡単だったはず」ってのが真実だよな・・・オーストラリアとアフリカと中国の砂漠で数十億人は住めるでしょww

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/03(Mon) 09:04:56 ID:2caa39306            ★コメ返信★

        移住先はLV426に行こう

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/03(Mon) 12:39:22 ID:5643e6497            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        真空中より、海底の高水圧に耐える方が大変だからな。
        近くて遠い世界なんやね、海底は。

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