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    1: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:22:07▼このレスに返信

    デリング老けすぎ問題で世代ジャンプ説唱える人いたがこの映像見てないの?
    21: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:37:38▼このレスに返信
    >1
    とはいうけどこのedに映像ついてるのテレビ放送だけだから見てなくても不思議はない
    25: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:39:38▼このレスに返信
    >21
    プロローグの6:48辺りをお前に教える
    35: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:42:20▼このレスに返信
    >25
    確認したスマン
    23: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:38:38▼このレスに返信
    ごめんこの映像で何がわかるのかがわかんない
    24: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:39:24▼このレスに返信
    >23
    え?そこから説明しなきゃダメ?
    まあ俺もわからんけど
    29: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:41:19▼このレスに返信
    >23
    ババアの老け具合がデリングみたいにエルノラの成長より老けてるってことだろ
    32: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:41:38▼このレスに返信
    >23
    ここから十年でプロローグの博士ぐらい老けるならデリングも老けるでしょ
    33: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:42:02▼このレスに返信
    >32
    10年前なの?
    38: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:44:12▼このレスに返信
    >33
    ここからプロローグの母ちゃん見るに10年前後でエリーは産まれるでしょ
    3: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:24:26▼このレスに返信
    13年って普通に老けるよなって思える
    2: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:23:26▼このレスに返信
    ウラシマ効果的なあれなのかな
    13: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:29:49▼このレスに返信
    >2
    普通に宇宙線とか無重力の影響でしょ
    だから老いで一世代飛んだとかは微妙
    とはいえ意味深に幼少期のエリクトが何度も出てくるしスレッタに何か秘密ありそうではあるけど
    4: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:24:44▼このレスに返信
    やはり重力…重力は運動不足を解消する
    5: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:25:35▼このレスに返信
    博士の老け方見ると宇宙だと老けるの早そうに見える
    8: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:27:16▼このレスに返信
    >5
    プロローグの地球と宇宙の意識問題で平均寿命の問題が書いてあったとは聞く
    16: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:33:17▼このレスに返信
    博士この時点で頭になんか付けてるんだな
    7: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:26:57▼このレスに返信
    最近宇宙だと実際に老化が加速するのわかったから取り入れたんじゃない
    14: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:30:40▼このレスに返信
    ここから10年前後でエリーも産まれただろうしプロローグの母ちゃんも20代くらいだよね
    18: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:34:47▼このレスに返信
    父ちゃんがオックスアースの人で業務提携からの職場結婚でいいんだっけ?
    36: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:42:57▼このレスに返信
    >18
    その割にはパパ戦い慣れてる感じだよね
    元軍人か何かなのか
    22: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:38:15▼このレスに返信
    デリング老けてる以外に根拠らしい根拠ないのが弱いな
    後はそういうズラしがあると面白いかもってくらい
    37: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:43:28▼このレスに返信
    >22
    エリクト4歳とスレッタ6歳で母親の呼び方が違うとかかな
    わりとよくある手法
    42: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:45:05▼このレスに返信
    >37
    あとプロローグが本編の何年前か明言されてないってのとかエアリアルがそんな古い機体に見えない(新造機体)ってのが二年でやるには無理あるとか
    48: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:48:26▼このレスに返信
    >42
    そもそもスレッタが子供の頃のエアリアルと現在のエアリアルの外観が同じものかは不明だから
    41: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:44:48▼このレスに返信
    2世代離れてるってことになるとどいつもこいつも歳食ってから子供作ってお盛んってことになるな
    43: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:45:21▼このレスに返信
    >41
    お堅いのね
    55: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:50:28▼このレスに返信
    二話で出たシンセー開発公社が創業33年ってのは頭に入れといた方がいいかもしれん
    一話での舞台がAD0122年って以外はキャラクターの年齢から何から明確な年表記を避けまくってるから
    スレッタ17歳ってのもこないだ初めて分かったし
    67: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:53:49▼このレスに返信
    >55
    とりあえず三年前にその会社の社長になったのは事実なんだよな
    90: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:58:02▼このレスに返信
    水星に2人しか逃げてきてないのでエルノラもエリクトもスレッタも別人はかなり厳しくなったな
    2話ののとがエルノラじゃなかったらギリあり得るか
    98: 名無し 2022/10/12 01:00:08▼このレスに返信
    エリクトはルブリスに吸われてエアリアルになってて
    残った身体はスレッタに…ってそんな複雑な事するかなぁ
    64: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:52:21▼このレスに返信
    普通に見ればエリクト=スレッタに見える作りにしといて作中では一言もそんなこと言ってませんけど?というのはよくあるミスリードの手法ではあるんだけども
    71: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:54:19▼このレスに返信
    >64
    そこがあまりに露骨だから珍しく考察が活発なんだとは思う
    27: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:40:31▼このレスに返信
    どっちとも受け取れる要素を散りばめて重要な部分はぼかしてどっちも完全に否定できる物を残してないんだから本編が進まんと何も分からんよ
    分かってることは俺らが水星の魔女の思惑通りに手の内で転がされてるって事だけだよ
    28: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:41:18▼このレスに返信
    >27
    最低だよセーラーマーキュリー…
    92: 名無し 2022/10/12 00:58:53▼このレスに返信
    まぁ世代ジャンプしてたからってそれが話に影響を及ぼす物かと言えば
    現時点だとそういうもの無いよね

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 08:14:37 ID:9abd975e7            ★コメ返信★

        エリクトは逃避行中に死んでて脳がエアリアルの中枢ユニットになってて、データストームを肩代わりしてるとか?
        スレッタはクローン。

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 09:28:51 ID:764eaf899            ★コメ返信★

        >記事92
        良くも悪くも別のストーリーになるよ
        一緒に暮らしてたパパたちの仇か、会ったことも無いお爺ちゃんたちの仇かでは大違いですし

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 09:48:18 ID:e4b9a4472            ★コメ返信★

        多分全然描写されない(そして別に問題にもならない)と思うけど、
        公転周期が地球日換算で88日な水星の年の数え方とかどうなってる
        んだろうかというのはちょっと気になってる。
        微妙に地球の扱い悪いし、本当に1年=365地球日なんだろうか。

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 10:11:01 ID:9d32ad34c            ★コメ返信★

        水星との行き来にコールドスリープ使ってるからズレていっただけじゃないの?

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 10:43:35 ID:cc5c76938            ★コメ返信★

        というかスレッタという偽名に慣れ過ぎてるのがまず疑問点だわ
        進めば二つって言葉が急に出てきたことも疑問
        名言風にするならプロローグで出すべきだった
        唐突な髪留めのからかいも、クローンに同じ格好をさせてることを示唆してるように勘繰る
        Ever17の優みたいな

        まぁ違和感が大きいとはいえ情報不足だわ

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 11:37:30 ID:903b91403            ★コメ返信★

        根拠が少ない割に描写のぼかし方が露骨だし、世代ジャンプで話が面白くなる要素が無いので無いと思うけどね。それっぽい要素を散りばめて考察させるための餌でしか無い気がする。

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 11:39:28 ID:be11eca13            ★コメ返信★

        じゃあ二重人格説で
        おかあさんに言われて付けてる髪留めで切り替わるんだよ
        今の人格の名前がスレッタ

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 11:59:35 ID:117a3a587            ★コメ返信★

        デリングだけに注目すると老けすぎだけど
        グエルの親父とか前CEOのジジイは相応に老けてるから、世代ジャンプはないと思う
        ミスリードを狙ってるとしたら、生命無力化という伝聞だけで
        明確な死亡描写がないガンドアーム開発者=魔女:カルド・ナボが生存してるとかだろうね
        グループ内に裏切者がいて、技術目的で匿ってそう

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 12:30:17 ID:a640f4469            ★コメ返信★

        FSSとかエピソード変わると途端に老けたり、シリアスシーンになると若返る人とかいるから、この世界もそういうものかもしれん

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/12(Wed) 14:07:32 ID:47ccef7b5            ★コメ返信★

        ※3
        そういう拘っても面白さに繋がらなそうなモノは地球基準じゃないかな
        別だとしても地球に来る時点で地球基準で換算した年齢で扱われるだろうし

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/10/13(Thu) 05:39:50 ID:4081beaa0            ★コメ返信★

        実はこいつがエルノラじゃない可能性…は考えないとして
        見た感じまだ子供、小学生くらいにも見える
        写真が10歳で、20代半ばくらいでエリクトを産んだなら、20年くらいたってる事になるから、おばちゃんが白髪になってもおかしくないかと

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        仮面といい、後からどうとでもなるように作ってるなぁ
        見切り発車の鉄血や、設定の練り込み不足の境界線機の例があるとはいえ置きにいきすぎじゃね?

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