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    1: 無念 2018/12/04 00:01:33 No.602999651 ▼このレスに返信

    声優に理解されないキャラ
    2: 無念 2018/12/04 00:39:59 No.603008058 ▼このレスに返信
    視聴者もなかなか理解できなかったぞ…
    3: 無念 2018/12/04 00:41:21 No.603008297 ▼このレスに返信
    Wは閣下やゼクスが言ってる小難しいことを全部聞き流して
    MSの戦闘の格好良さとかそういうのを見てるとすんなり物語に入れる
    88: 無念 2018/12/04 03:29:05 No.603026080 ▼このレスに返信

    >声優に理解されないキャラ
    自分の演じたキャラランキングで犬以下の人だっているんですよ!??
    4: 無念 2018/12/04 00:43:51 No.603008818 ▼このレスに返信
    理解する必要はない。それを望んでいるキャラだろう
    理解したごひみたくなるぞ
    5: 無念 2018/12/04 00:47:35 No.603009554 ▼このレスに返信
    序盤は単純にOZで世界支配でもしたいナルシーな親玉キャラかと思ってたよ
    中盤辺りからロームフェラに逆らって失脚や戦争に対する事や己の美学語りだして
    そんな単純なキャラじゃないってわかるけど
    6: 無念 2018/12/04 00:54:31 No.603010875 ▼このレスに返信
    文字通りの作品の顔でありテーマを象徴する存在
    トレーズが理解出来るか否かで作品の認識が変わってくる
    7: 無念 2018/12/04 00:56:00 No.603011157 ▼このレスに返信
    むしろこの人の理解出来る人は余程の人間だと思う
    8: 無念 2018/12/04 00:57:51 No.603011474 ▼このレスに返信
    人間なんて何考えてるのかわからんというキャラ
    10: 無念 2018/12/04 01:01:12 No.603011999 ▼このレスに返信
    脚本もその場の勢いと行き当たりばったりで喋らせてたと思う
    でも面白かった
    11: 無念 2018/12/04 01:02:59 No.603012305 ▼このレスに返信
    エレガントで大体行動原理が説明できる
    12: 無念 2018/12/04 01:24:56 No.603015534 ▼このレスに返信
    判ると納得できるんだけど判るようになって説明しないから理解者が五飛とゼクスとレディしかいないという…
    14: 無念 2018/12/04 01:27:31 No.603015848 ▼このレスに返信
    途中で監督逃げちゃって急遽別アニメの監督してた人が兼任したから行き当たりばったりな展開なのは仕方ない
    23: 無念 2018/12/04 01:33:07 No.603016581 ▼このレスに返信
    リリーナの声優さんも意味分からないまま演説シーンをやったと言ってた
    92: 無念 2018/12/04 03:43:10 No.603026714 ▼このレスに返信
    >リリーナの声優さんも意味分からないまま演説シーンをやったと言ってた
    あの人偉い役やる時は大体そうだぞ
    は×ブの会長もよく分からないままやってるってCDドラマの演者コメントでぶっちゃけてた
    108: 無念 2018/12/04 04:56:52 No.603028739 ▼このレスに返信
    >リリーナの声優さんも意味分からないまま演説シーンをやったと言ってた
    ロームフェラの象徴になるまでの流れは立場が目まぐるしく変わったから相当大変だっただろうな
    26: 無念 2018/12/04 01:33:46 No.603016667 ▼このレスに返信
    私は敗者になりたいって言ってる本人もよく分かってなさそう
    57: 無念 2018/12/04 02:01:04 No.603020048 ▼このレスに返信
    >私は敗者になりたいって言ってる本人もよく分かってなさそう

    信念に基づいて戦って死にたい=敗者
    なんじゃないかな

    71: 無念 2018/12/04 02:32:27 No.603022778 ▼このレスに返信
    >私は敗者になりたいって言ってる本人もよく分かってなさそう
    勝ち残ってもいずれは衰退するんなら
    ぱっと散って人々の心に残る方がいいじゃん的な
    96: 無念 2018/12/04 04:19:15 No.603027967 ▼このレスに返信
    >私は敗者になりたいって言ってる本人もよく分かってなさそう
    自分を打ち砕くほどの強者
    今の世を憂い自由を勝ち取る意思を持った者が現れてほしいってことじゃないかね
    34: 無念 2018/12/04 01:45:18 No.603018139 ▼このレスに返信
    戦争大好き殺戮嫌いでも平和がいい
    わけわからん
    102: 無念 2018/12/04 04:49:45 No.603028611 ▼このレスに返信
    >戦争大好き殺戮嫌いでも平和がいい
    >わけわからん
    平和を願う者達自身が自力で勝ち取る平和は尊い
    だが他者が施す平和は醜い
    106: 無念 2018/12/04 04:55:08 No.603028711 ▼このレスに返信
    >平和を願う者達自身が自力で勝ち取る平和は尊い
    >だが他者が施す平和は醜い
    自力で勝ち取る平和が尊いし美しい事は分かるけど
    他者が施す平和は醜いから駄目よでハト派の将軍と外務次官殺すのは本当クソ野郎だと思う
    35: 無念 2018/12/04 01:46:17 No.603018259 ▼このレスに返信
    戦いの後に真の平和が訪れるのだよ
    41: 無念 2018/12/04 01:50:57 No.603018848 ▼このレスに返信
    >戦いの後に真の平和が訪れるのだよ
    でも物語当初長い戦争があって平和主義者の人たちが頑張ってやっと平和に漕ぎ着けそうになったのを
    自分が戦争したいが為にぶち壊したのスレ画ですよね?
    46: 無念 2018/12/04 01:52:59 No.603019080 ▼このレスに返信
    まあ政府のトップで兵を送り出す責や柵に対して偽悪的にならないとやってられなくなったんだろう
    兵士とは別のPTSDだが、この人はそれから逃れるために戦場によく出てくるので訳わからない事に
    53: 無念 2018/12/04 01:58:00 No.603019700 ▼このレスに返信
    「平和なんて騙し騙し守っていくもんだよ」みたいなやりかたが嫌で過激な方に向かった人(趣味9割)って認識
    ほとんどの人間にとって普通に迷惑
    58: 無念 2018/12/04 02:02:29 No.603020196 ▼このレスに返信
    >ほとんどの人間にとって普通に迷惑
    まあコロニーが皆でこっそりテロ計画しようぜって考えるくらいの大体酷い境遇だからね
    極右がよく見えるのはしゃーない
    54: 無念 2018/12/04 01:59:29 No.603019878 ▼このレスに返信
    自分は悪で死んで当然の人間だと思っている無敵の人
    56: 無念 2018/12/04 01:59:54 No.603019927 ▼このレスに返信
    >自分は悪で死んで当然の人間だと思っている無敵の人
    確かにあの最後は無敵の人過ぎる
    59: 無念 2018/12/04 02:02:38 No.603020209 ▼このレスに返信
    負けた事を自覚したい=敗者なんだろ
    脚本家陣はそこらはちゃんと決めてなかったそうだが
    61: 無念 2018/12/04 02:03:59 No.603020327 ▼このレスに返信
    >脚本家陣はそこらはちゃんと決めてなかったそうだが
    その割に一応考察頑張ればそれなりに納得は兎も角
    それが何かは見えるのは面白い
    62: 無念 2018/12/04 02:08:53 No.603020825 ▼このレスに返信
    >その割に一応考察頑張ればそれなりに納得は兎も角
    >それが何かは見えるのは面白い

    キャラの性格がぶれなかったから
    一応、どんな理屈でもスジを通しているように見えるしね
    ラストバトルのヒイロとゼクスの会話は
    何度見直しても意思疎通が出来てるようには見えないが

    64: 無念 2018/12/04 02:12:30 No.603021186 ▼このレスに返信
    ゼクスはあそこで死んで落とし前を付けるっていう大胆さがいいんだよ、生きてた……
    70: 無念 2018/12/04 02:30:11 No.603022604 ▼このレスに返信
    >ゼクスはあそこで死んで落とし前を付けるっていう大胆さがいいんだよ、生きてた……
    火消しの風!
    火消しの風です!!

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