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【逆シャア】劇場公開までファンファンネルの存在隠す必要あったのかな



1: 名無し 2020/06/16 18:34:08

宇宙が
2: 名無し 2020/06/16 18:38:14
公開までフィンファンネルの存在隠してたけど意味あったのかな
4: 名無し 2020/06/16 18:40:20
>2
当時ファンネル無しのと有りのがプラモ別々に売られたから
そのためだろうか？
14: 名無し 2020/06/16 18:48:59
地味にファンネル付きの主人公機ってνしかいないよね
17: 名無し 2020/06/16 18:55:35
>14
類似のもんならクアンタやAGE３が持ってるが
「ファンネル」と名前付いてる装備がある主人公機は他に思い当たらんなあ
あ、クスィーは主人公機でいいの？
20: 名無し 2020/06/16 18:58:08
>17
一応入れていいんじゃないかな
21: 名無し 2020/06/16 18:59:01
>17
Cファンネル…
15: 名無し 2020/06/16 18:52:12
νガンダムはシャアがサイコフレームの情報渡してたから…
18: 名無し 2020/06/16 18:56:45
>15
フィンファンネルはサイコフレーム渡される前から作ってたんじゃない？
33: 名無し 2020/06/16 19:16:37
F91もフェイスオープンのこと秘密にしてたな
本編では最初の整備シーンでサラッと出してたけど
36: 名無し 2020/06/16 19:18:02
>33
前売りについてくるＦ９１のＳＤプラモにはオープンギミックついてなかった
38: 名無し 2020/06/16 19:19:36
物心ついた頃にはもうあったからファンネルなし版から知りたかった
42: 名無し 2020/06/16 19:21:11
子供だからSDのνガンダムかっこいい！
と思って映画見たけど何一つ理解できなかった
39: 名無し 2020/06/16 19:19:50
実際のところ公開当時に逆シャア見た人の感想ってどうだったんだろう
これで終わりかよ！みたいな感じになったんだろうか
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  1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 18:19:48 ID：38b777cb4            ★コメ返信★

    ファンファンと言われましても……

  2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 18:33:04 ID：a985536e9            ★コメ返信★

    当時はとにかくMSのカッコよさにしびれてたなぁ

  3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 19:15:17 ID：8c80bd787            ★コメ返信★

    ガンダムにサイコミュが搭載されてファンネルを装備
    それにアムロが乗る
    すげぇ！
    と、当時、大興奮したよ

  4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 19:18:40 ID：cd83789e3            ★コメ返信★

    ネジ止めのあるガンプラ

  5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 19:24:34 ID：8cceef94f            ★コメ返信★

    忘れられたユニコーンのシールドファンネル

  6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 19:43:07 ID：71c3cf29c            ★コメ返信★

    そういや確かに旧1/144はビス止めだったな
    もうスナップフィットになってたとは思うがアレはなんだったのか

    反応:※8 ※9
  7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 19:44:58 ID：52185b56f            ★コメ返信★

    ファンファンネル・・・ウッディ大尉、無茶です！

  8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 19:48:54 ID：52185b56f            ★コメ返信★

    ※6
    まだスナップフィットのフィット感がいまいちで、関節動かすと負荷のかかる部分がバラけてしまうおそれのある部分は強引に固定せざるをえなかった。
    接着すりゃいいんだけどね。
    メーカーとしてはそれをしないという謳い文句なんだから、ああいう方式になった。

  9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 20:24:52 ID：1bdead610            ★コメ返信★

    ※6
    前年のドラグナー辺りから、今じゃ当たり前の
    ポリキャップ、シール、スナップフィット、いろプラに切り替わりが始まってて
    逆シャアはその過渡期だったのもある

    当時はガンダムがファンネル使うなんてけしからんという
    古参ファンの声があったと聞くけど実際どうだったんだろう？

  10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 20:55:07 ID：ee8f5ac4e            ★コメ返信★

    僕はフライマンタ

  11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 20:57:51 ID：550e65352            ★コメ返信★

    ファンネルは敵が使う武器って認識の中で
    アムロがファンネルを使うってのは、それなりにサプライズだったんじゃね
    世代じゃないから分からんが

  12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 21:21:07 ID：d2773806d            ★コメ返信★

    エヴァの新劇場版みたいなもんで、ガチファンに不評なのもなんとなくわかる。

  13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 21:23:31 ID：2679c7cba            ★コメ返信★

    当時劇場で見たがフィンファンネルは動きが速すぎて何やってるのかよくわからなかったわ
    ただカッコ良かったから印象自体は良かったよ
    周囲の反応はアニメオタク達はそもそもガンダム自体に興味がなかったけどTMの曲だけは流行ってたな
    ロボコップとか銀英伝とか帝都物語とかの話ばかりしてたわ

  14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 21:36:54 ID：2679c7cba            ★コメ返信★

    まぁなんだ、SAOとかSHIROBAKOとかFateとかの話で周囲が盛り上がってる中でGレコの話だけをしようとしてるのを想像してくれ
    逆シャアが不評とか叩かれてるとかじゃないんだ
    逆シャア当時のガノタは同じ会話できるやつをまず探すとこすらままならなかったんだ

  15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 21:43:15 ID：6183e5bff            ★コメ返信★

    映画とか何も知らないでフィンファンネル無しのガンプラ買った
    それの印象強くて　その後完全版と言えるファンネル付き見たけど
    バランス悪いなぁ…カッコ悪いなぁ…という考えが長年続いたもんだ

    反応:※18
  16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/17(Wed) 22:56:50 ID：443df28c3            ★コメ返信★

    とりあえずBクラブのレジン製ファンネルには怒っていい　2500円だっけか

  17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/18(Thu) 02:30:22 ID：107488d91            ★コメ返信★

    岡田真澄さんは今の人にはわからんだろうに

  18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/18(Thu) 03:44:35 ID：b6a059f1c            ★コメ返信★

    ※15
    安心してくれ
    当時のガノタもフィンファンネルのアンバランスさを叩いてたし敵側が使ってきたファンネルをアムロが使うとか正気か？とかアムロのガンダムなんだろ黒色かよとか散々だった

    あれ？今と変わらんな…

    反応:※23
  19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/18(Thu) 07:30:18 ID：438623dff            ★コメ返信★

    ギュネイは放熱板と勘違い
    ザニーの頃もなかったのに
    そこまで遅れちゃないだろ
    ヤクトドーガと同じアナハイム製なのに

  20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/18(Thu) 10:07:25 ID：5064879e4            ★コメ返信★

    とりあえず好き嫌いは置いておいて当時は類似した装備は無かったので
    良く分からんけど新装備！バリヤーも張れる！スゲェ！ってのはあった。

  21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/19(Fri) 00:33:56 ID：4b34bb8d7            ★コメ返信★

    フィンファンネルとαアジールは映画公開するまでは記事にしないって
    雑誌間で協定結んでたのにニュータイプがフライングしやがったって
    模型情報の編集が紙面で切れてたんだよなあ

  22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/19(Fri) 12:35:19 ID：e24595829            ★コメ返信★

    公開当時の感想だって？
    友人二人で見たんだけど、二人して「何だこれ？」だったわ
    そして「やっとガンダム終わってよかったね」だった

  23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/20(Sat) 06:23:58 ID：7d6250dd0            ★コメ返信★

    ※18
    主語広げんなよ
    そういうのがごく一部にいた　か　も　し　れ　な　い
    程度のレベルだ

  24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/21(Sun) 23:32:22 ID：b64187cd9            ★コメ返信★

    公開当時感想リガズィがかっこよかったな～
    あれ？終わり？何がどうなったんだ？ってな感じだったな

  25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/06/22(Mon) 19:12:23 ID：77ddb9dac            ★コメ返信★

    ファンネル＝キュベレイとかのアレ、という認識がようやく一般化したところに板状の装備で使う時にコになってビームを撃つという武装が登場したもんだからちょっとした議論になったのは事実
    ぶっちゃけスパロボとかで優遇された扱いされてからだよ、フィンファンネルの人気が出たのって
    それ以前はグラディウスのオプション程度の扱いでしかなかったしF91のヴェスバーの方が圧倒的に兵装的な人気があった

  26. 26. 名前:名無しのガンダム好き 投稿日：2020/06/23(Tue) 19:29:00 ID：2f7af8b89            ★コメ返信★

    フィンファンネル（ファンじゃねぇよ、スレタイ直せやｗ）って、ＭＳ用というより戦艦用だった気がせんか？でかいし、大火力だし、バリア張れるし。当時の戦艦で切望された「反応の良いビーム砲、艦全体とはいわずとも、敵ビーム砲を防ぐ手段」になったと思うんだが。

  27. 27. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/07/11(Sat) 01:45:02 ID：7582ed32f            ★コメ返信★

    ビーム加速機が可変で集中～拡散と使い分けできて、AMBACで低燃費って思ってたからすんなり受け入れてたな
    さすがアムロって感じで

  28. 28. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/08/16(Sun) 08:20:07 ID：583cc40fa            ★コメ返信★

    AMBACって言葉自体も当時無くてエボルブからの追加設定やで
    主にシャアザク通常の３倍論に使う為の

    公開当時はアムロもシャアも劇中見ての通りMIAの説明も何も無く意味不明ENDだったよ
    立体物の販売戦略も割と喧嘩売ってたよな
    ①ファンネル無しνガンダム1/144キット
    ②ハイコンプリートファンネル(非可動)付νガンダム1/144完成品
    ③ファンネル付きνガンダム1/144キット

    けど翌年のポケ戦に注目してたからまぁそこまで気にも留めなかった
    多少不満が有ってもポケ戦に目が行っちゃって深く考える人もそんな居なかったハズ
    ホビー紙面も逆シャア触る程度でさっさとポケ戦特集だったしな

    尤もネットも無い時代のガノタはジオン残党レベルだった事を念頭にな

  29. 29. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/08/19(Wed) 19:15:26 ID：2018dc588            ★コメ返信★

    ライフルとか盾みたいに、ただの武装としか思わなかったな。
    本体さえあれば、相手の所に飛んでるんだって妄想でカバーできたし

    付属品なんてなくしちゃうから、結局ステゴロ仕様ガンダムの出来上がりだ

  30. 30. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/02/28(Sun) 01:41:35 ID：39c9f9978            ★コメ返信★

    当時は高校生だったな。
    見終わったあとはポカーンとしてTMNの曲が脳内リフレインしてた覚えあるわ。
    なんかそのまま大人になって、ガンダムとか忘れかけた時期にたまたま見たUCで、ああ彼らはやっぱり死んでたんだなぁ…と思ったら涙ぐんだw
    いい大人が何やってんのwwって話

  31. 31. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/06/12(Sat) 20:40:15 ID：61548d109            ★コメ返信★

    劇場で見た時にもらったSDのνとサザビーの蓄光素材ガン消しまだ持ってる

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  33. 33. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/09/25(Sun) 07:33:25 ID：0a0a78a95            ★コメ返信★

    逆シャア公開当時の子供はジャンプ、ファミコン、RC、モデルガン…
    プラモデルはすっかり暗いヤツの趣味になってた
    「ガンダム?まだやってたのｗ」と、こういう扱いだったよ

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