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【ガンダム】ガンダムの盾って脆いんだか堅いんだかわからんな

1: 無念 2019/06/13 23:39:02 No.646183028 ▼このレスに返信

RX78の盾スレ
固い

2: 無念 2019/06/13 23:40:29 No.646183415 ▼このレスに返信

壊れやすいの嫌い

4: 無念 2019/06/13 23:43:58 No.646184320 ▼このレスに返信

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5: 無念 2019/06/13 23:44:30 No.646184473 ▼このレスに返信

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6: 無念 2019/06/13 23:44:55 No.646184596 ▼このレスに返信

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8: 無念 2019/06/13 23:51:45 No.646186416 ▼このレスに返信

1枚で破られるなら何枚でも重ねれば良い

11: 無念 2019/06/14 00:03:20 No.646189559 ▼このレスに返信

>1枚で破られるなら何枚でも重ねれば良い
重くなって持ちにくくて盾を構えれない方向から攻撃くらう局面が増えそう

15: 無念 2019/06/14 00:08:59 No.646190861 ▼このレスに返信

>1枚で破られるなら何枚でも重ねれば良い
実際２枚重ねできるんじゃなかったっけ

9: 無念 2019/06/13 23:53:45 No.646186948 ▼このレスに返信

装甲が強いんならそれを武器にすればいいじゃんってよくある突っ込みへの答え

10: 無念 2019/06/13 23:57:44 No.646188033 ▼このレスに返信

本体にダメージ行かなくても敵の強さをアピール出来る装備

16: 無念 2019/06/14 00:11:20 No.646191427 ▼このレスに返信

割れたり溶けたり砕けたり材質が安定しないにもほどがある

18: 無念 2019/06/14 00:14:15 No.646192055 ▼このレスに返信

Gアーマーの時は盾自体も合体するという謎ギミック付き

20: 無念 2019/06/14 00:15:58 No.646192436 ▼このレスに返信

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21: 無念 2019/06/14 00:20:03 No.646193391 ▼このレスに返信

盾にもルナチタニウム使ってるって設定だけど
こうもばんばか壊されてたらちょっと疑うよね
部分的な使用だろうか

50: 無念 2019/06/14 00:40:14 No.646197716 ▼このレスに返信

>盾にもルナチタニウム使ってるって設定だけど
>こうもばんばか壊されてたらちょっと疑うよね
>部分的な使用だろうか
ヒート兵器に関してはルナチタ相手でも普通に切れる武器って設定は昔からあるしまあ

22: 無念 2019/06/14 00:21:49 No.646193797 ▼このレスに返信

ドムのバズーカ直撃食らう機会が何回かあったけど無傷だったガンキャノンさん

25: 無念 2019/06/14 00:26:03 No.646194772 ▼このレスに返信

劇場版のラスト付近でガンキャノンさんバズーカで足折られてた気がするので
ダメージが蓄積してモロくなっていくのではないだろうかとかいうことでどうか
とかいう話があったなあ

26: 無念 2019/06/14 00:27:41 No.646195140 ▼このレスに返信

ジャイアントバズ>ビットやガウのメガ粒子砲

27: 無念 2019/06/14 00:28:34 No.646195308 ▼このレスに返信

>ジャイアントバズ>ビットやガウのメガ粒子砲
まあさすがにブラウブロのメガ粒子砲にはガンキャノンさんとて一発で足が蒸発しちゃったが

30: 無念 2019/06/14 00:30:27 No.646195710 ▼このレスに返信

盾の使い方で一番渋いのシャアズゴック戦
あれカッコいい

33: 無念 2019/06/14 00:31:47 No.646195999 ▼このレスに返信

GMの盾もこれと同じと考えたら相当強いな

38: 無念 2019/06/14 00:34:06 No.646196497 ▼このレスに返信

>GMの盾もこれと同じと考えたら相当強いな
つってもガンダム盾てしょっちゅう壊れる使い捨て武装だからな
それにアムロレベルの腕前じゃなきゃ連戦の末に盾が壊れる前にそこ以外に攻撃くらって死んでる

42: 無念 2019/06/14 00:35:43 No.646196813 ▼このレスに返信

>つってもガンダム盾てしょっちゅう壊れる使い捨て武装だからな
>それにアムロレベルの腕前じゃなきゃ連戦の末に盾が壊れる前にそこ以外に攻撃くらって死んでる
まあ最悪盾壊れる前に本体やられたとしても
戦闘後の救助者捜索中にでも盾だけ拾って再利用すれば…

39: 無念 2019/06/14 00:34:22 No.646196547 ▼このレスに返信

>GMの盾もこれと同じと考えたら相当強いな
ルナチタ大盤振る舞いは無理だろうし
星一号作戦組の前線部隊だけとかに配備で
あとは通常装甲かなあ

36: 無念 2019/06/14 00:32:38 No.646196182 ▼このレスに返信

そぉい！

40: 無念 2019/06/14 00:35:13 No.646196722 ▼このレスに返信

戦闘キチガイでおなじみアムロとて初代くらいだろうなここまでシールドを徹底的に活用したの

45: 無念 2019/06/14 00:37:02 No.646197082 ▼このレスに返信

作画が楽になるから持たせたシールドも
お禿の演出の道具に徹底的に使う辺り満足度高い

44: 無念 2019/06/14 00:36:21 No.646196946 ▼このレスに返信

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54: 無念 2019/06/14 00:41:32 No.646197969 ▼このレスに返信

アニメで盾の断面シーンあったな

126: 無念 2019/06/14 02:11:12 No.646211056 ▼このレスに返信

>アニメで盾の断面シーンあったな

74: 無念 2019/06/14 00:58:18 No.646201088 ▼このレスに返信

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85: 無念 2019/06/14 01:08:59 No.646202941 ▼このレスに返信

Gアーマーの2重盾はプラモでも再現されていて笑った

89: 無念 2019/06/14 01:13:39 No.646203691 ▼このレスに返信

>Gアーマーの2重盾はプラモでも再現されていて笑った
あったっけ？と思ったらMGが唯一なのか

93: 無念 2019/06/14 01:18:02 No.646204370 ▼このレスに返信

>あったっけ？と思ったらMGが唯一なのか
GFFのGアーマーも出来たと思う

101: 無念 2019/06/14 01:46:15 No.646208405 ▼このレスに返信

今ファーストの再放送を見てザクバズーカくらいで壊れる脆い盾なのがショックだった
ルナチタ装甲＝ビームとヒート兵器以外には無敵くらいの印象だったのに

104: 無念 2019/06/14 01:49:15 No.646208769 ▼このレスに返信

まあ盾が犠牲になるのはちゃんと仕事したって事で

105: 無念 2019/06/14 01:49:36 No.646208806 ▼このレスに返信

盾は三層構造の表層だけルナチタニウムだぞ実は昔からそういう設定

131: 無念 2019/06/14 02:15:21 No.646211447 ▼このレスに返信

小説版では3重のハニカム構造と書かれているが
そんなスカスカで銃弾が防げるわけない
富野がマーキュリーやジェミニの再突入カプセルが
チタン製の三重ハニカム構造で耐熱しているのを知って
かっこいいと思ったんだろう
逆に言うと大気圏突入時には役に立つはず

144: 無念 2019/06/14 02:36:06 No.646213309 ▼このレスに返信

しかしヒートホークでルナチタニウム製の盾割れるんなら序盤の初心者ガンダムにザク複数機で同時に斬りかかれば十分倒せちゃうな
シャアはキックとかしてないでヒートホークで斬るべきだった

145: 無念 2019/06/14 02:42:23 No.646213804 ▼このレスに返信

>しかしヒートホークでルナチタニウム製の盾割れるんなら序盤の初心者ガンダムにザク複数機で同時に斬りかかれば十分倒せちゃうな
>シャアはキックとかしてないでヒートホークで斬るべきだった
ヒートホーク持ったザクが後ろから切りかかろうとしたら返り討ちに遭ったシーンなかったかな
ガンダムもビームライフルやバズーカやバルカン撃ち込んでくるんだし並のパイロットじゃヒートホーク一本で近付くのも困難でしょう

116: 無念 2019/06/14 02:05:39 No.646210517 ▼このレスに返信

今更だがガンダムの性能は凄い・バルカンが凄い・盾が凄い・アムロが超強いでスキが無くどうしようもないな

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2019/06/14(Fri) 12:11:27 ID：cc44c1d22 ★コメ返信★

実は材質とか構成変えた試作品を何種類も用意してて、それをテストする予定だったけど、そうとも知らず、素人クルーが全部赤で塗装して区別がつかなくなったとか？
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2019/06/14(Fri) 15:10:47 ID：d3c5e15ac ★コメ返信★

マゼラトップに乗ったハモンさんが言ってたように距離も関係してそう
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2019/06/14(Fri) 16:42:46 ID：5bbb4037b ★コメ返信★

硬いだけなら脆いに決まってる
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2019/06/14(Fri) 19:08:55 ID：c86e6367e ★コメ返信★

そもそも、盾を生産する事まで考えると加工できるレベルの金属の硬度だからフツーに壊れると思う・・・
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2019/06/14(Fri) 19:48:02 ID：841ee6d55 ★コメ返信★

>スキが無くどうしようもないな

所謂スーパーロボットの香りを残しつつも
リアル系の強さを合わせ持ってるからね
両方そなわり最強に見える
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2019/06/30(Sun) 05:48:04 ID：9be13e608 ★コメ返信★

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正式採用された盾がそんな素材まんまの板のわけないだろうしな
壊れるからこそ防御に優れるってこともあるんだろう
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2019/07/04(Thu) 12:28:41 ID：cc1606853 ★コメ返信★

120㎜マシンガン→弾く
ゴッグのバルカン（拡散ビーム？）→弾く
ガウやアッザムのメガ粒子砲→割りと耐える
ヒートホーク→端っこからなら切れる
ヒートロッド→巻き付くとヘニャる
バズーカ弾（HEAT的な？）→貫通
ズゴックのビーム、自分のビーム→裏表両方から貫通
小型爆弾（爆発力は高い）→半分吹っ飛ぶ
マゼラトップ砲→超至近なら一発で砕ける

ふむ、これはややこしいな
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2019/12/05(Thu) 16:52:15 ID：3b66f7cd8 ★コメ返信★

ほぼ全機のジムにシールド持たせてあげているのに全く有効活用せず１撃で死ぬ
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