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    【ガンダム】ジェットストリームアタックって割と完璧な戦術じゃない?



    1: 名無し 2020/07/11 02:27:40▼このレスに返信

    ジェットストリームアタックって割と完璧な戦術じゃない?
    2: 名無し 2020/07/11 02:29:26▼このレスに返信
    マチルダさんいなかったら多分やられてた
    6: 名無し 2020/07/11 02:38:39▼このレスに返信
    >2
    あれも改めて見るとオルテガ手ぶらで飛んでるだけだから
    ドムパンチぐらいじゃガンダムに大したダメージにならないんじゃないかな…
    3: 名無し 2020/07/11 02:30:00▼このレスに返信
    ビームで3機とも串刺しになるじゃん
    4: 名無し 2020/07/11 02:37:08▼このレスに返信
    >3
    前の1人は避けられるかもしれないけど後ろの2人はだいぶ回避難しそうね
    7: 名無し 2020/07/11 03:01:33▼このレスに返信
    ストロボ対策されたら破綻しない?
    8: 名無し 2020/07/11 03:11:28▼このレスに返信
    ドム以外でもやってたはずだからパターンはいっぱいあるだろう多分
    9: 名無し 2020/07/11 03:20:13▼このレスに返信
    ギレンの野望は旧ザクの頃からジェットストリームアタックやってるんだよな
    ifだと高機動型ゲルググも黒い三連星専用である
    10: 名無し 2020/07/11 04:26:17▼このレスに返信
    前から順に撃墜すればいいのでは…?
    11: 名無し 2020/07/11 04:27:39▼このレスに返信
    小説でアムロはジェットストリームで死んでなかったっけ?
    12: 名無し 2020/07/11 04:28:37▼このレスに返信
    >11
    なんでそんな適当なこと言うの……
    15: 名無し 2020/07/11 04:29:23▼このレスに返信
    そんな序盤で死なないし死因停戦中の不意打ちだし…
    13: 名無し 2020/07/11 04:29:09▼このレスに返信
    前見えないのに急に出て来たミデアに対応できたオルテガは柔軟
    14: 名無し 2020/07/11 04:29:20▼このレスに返信
    陣形組めている相手だと仕掛けられないよねジェットストリーム
    16: 名無し 2020/07/11 04:31:59▼このレスに返信
    戦艦相手だと三機がかりでやらないと仕留められないということでもあるんだよなあ

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 09:28:50 ID:46250b884            ★コメ返信★

        目視照準の対空砲にとって一直線に突っ込んでくる急降下爆撃は撃墜しやすい部類だったらしいし…

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 09:32:58 ID:c702498af            ★コメ返信★

        そもそもジェットストリームアタックって1機と思って攻撃したら急に散会して3機に増えてどれを攻撃すべきか一瞬判断を鈍らせる為の戦術では・・・

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 09:35:31 ID:a35546ca2            ★コメ返信★

        >>ドムパンチぐらいじゃガンダムに大したダメージにならないんじゃないかな…

        メインカメラ潰すか至近距離で拡散ビーム食らわせれば充分過ぎる

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 09:38:19 ID:c599cfb82            ★コメ返信★

        先頭のやつの死亡率高そう

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 09:43:38 ID:1fca7ce9a            ★コメ返信★

        トローペンじゃねえか!

        漫画では後ろに隠れての分身戦法って双子あるあるだけど、あぁきれいに重なっては見えないよね…

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 09:52:47 ID:70880d88a            ★コメ返信★

        何故、写真がトロ―ペン?受け狙い?

        小説でガンダム撃破するのは、学徒兵の乗ったリックドムだぞ。
        何か適当なコメント平気に掲載するよな…わざと?

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 10:12:50 ID:f7c7290a8            ★コメ返信★

        GMにファランクス組まれるだけで瓦解する旧時代の遺産だぞ

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 10:28:04 ID:f7ac6ed19            ★コメ返信★

        むしろ二次元移動がメインのドムだと詰みやすい戦法だろ
        実際ガンダムに三次元戦闘仕掛けられて崩されたし

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 10:34:56 ID:335fd8663            ★コメ返信★

        困ったら引き撃ちすればいい

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 10:56:33 ID:06a5a716c            ★コメ返信★

        確か子連れ狼で、柳生の刺客が拝一刀相手に同じ事やってたな

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 11:10:23 ID:f5cc7bd48            ★コメ返信★

        煽り運転で逮捕されそう

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 11:16:49 ID:f5cc7bd48            ★コメ返信★

        今ならソーシャルディスタンスで距離取らされそう

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 11:29:39 ID:a4a5f71ce            ★コメ返信★

        ガイア!オルテガ!マッシュ!ジェットストリームアタックをかけるぞ!

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 11:58:34 ID:fc17a0b98            ★コメ返信★

        初代Gジェネでは旧ザク、ドムどちらもムービーがあって今思えばかなり優遇されてた

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 12:11:19 ID:0682c8bac            ★コメ返信★

        我が国の帝国海軍の急降下爆撃機の戦術で、同じ様なのが有ったが
        対空砲火が集中し易いという欠点が有った為
        異方向同時降下に切り替えられていった

      16. 16. 名前:雑魚1 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 12:43:32 ID:2c38e1baa            ★コメ返信★

        敵の三倍の戦力を要求するという、なかなかアレな必殺技だな。

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 12:57:00 ID:713f530f0            ★コメ返信★

        >>6

        小説版でアムロのG-3を撃墜するのは、シャア率いるニュータイプ部隊の一人「ルロイ・ギリアム」。

        若手だが、ただの学徒兵ではないぞ。

        適当なことを言ってはいけない。

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 13:32:45 ID:bbd7a95ef            ★コメ返信★

        戦艦相手に使うならともかく、モビルスーツ1機相手に3機がかりで
        必殺戦法使わなきゃダメなの……?

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 13:53:56 ID:7e9c2a9b8            ★コメ返信★

        とりあえず先頭は踏み台にされてどうぞー

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 14:12:39 ID:32858e4b1            ★コメ返信★

        むかーし、軍艦が大砲積んでなくて衝角攻撃してた頃の戦術と一緒やね。単縦陣でつっこんで、先頭がぶつかったら次々展開する。軍艦はジャンプできんから横に展開するわけだけど。

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 14:19:20 ID:210c0b982            ★コメ返信★

        正直黒い三連星は他のジオンのエースと比べると格落ち感あるわ
        一人当たりの撃墜数はギリエース基準に達してないって話だったし

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 17:54:03 ID:46b4587a4            ★コメ返信★

        ※18
        少し戦ってみてガンダムが手強いと感じたから必殺技使ったんだろうな、
        ガンダムの装甲はあり得ん位頑強だからそれこそ戦艦並みだと。

        まぁ機動性は戦艦どころじゃ無かったのが敗因だが、

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 17:57:59 ID:409596e2a            ★コメ返信★

        もう最近にわかの適当な発言のせいでまとめ卒業を真剣に考えてるわ
        特に強さ議論とか見るに堪えない

      24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 18:44:12 ID:cb93fd752            ★コメ返信★

        相手が単機ならかなり有効なんじゃない?
        串刺しにされる危険があるけど

      25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 18:47:28 ID:36c285bfb            ★コメ返信★

        一台目盾ぐらい用意してやってw

        格ゲーのガンダムで出ない技の一つ

      26. 26. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 22:45:00 ID:a49cda0a5            ★コメ返信★

        なんか「俺の知ってるガンダムと違う」みたいなので
        パーフェクトガンダムに正面から粉砕されるジェットストリームアタック
        のネタイラストが昔あったな

      27. 27. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/11(Sat) 23:30:35 ID:d29493987            ★コメ返信★

        ※25
        ガンダムvsガンダムやネクストでドム(ガイア機)のアシストの形で一応再現されてはいる

      28. 28. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/12(Sun) 11:22:40 ID:1478b60d7            ★コメ返信★

        24部隊が4機でしれっとやってたな

      29. 29. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/12(Sun) 11:24:42 ID:62c98f587            ★コメ返信★

        昔ゲーセンにあったSDガンダムのアクションゲームだと
        1面のボスが三連星ドムで3機揃って突っ込んでくるんだけど
        ビーム連射してるとそのまま倒せたの思い出した

      30. 30. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/12(Sun) 13:53:43 ID:5ea7bcdee            ★コメ返信★

        ※17
        勧誘成功して味方陣地に向かっている味方を撃墜しただけの人

      31. 31. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/12(Sun) 15:39:59 ID:7407a9b3d            ★コメ返信★

        パトレイバーの漫画版でSSSのキュマイラがグリフォンに仕掛けようとしてあっさり潰された

      32. 32. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/12(Sun) 15:42:28 ID:7407a9b3d            ★コメ返信★

        ※26
        狂四郎作品中でもアニメ至上主義のヲタのトリプルドムに
        レッドウォーリアでジェットストリーム返しやってた

      33. 33. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/12(Sun) 19:12:41 ID:cf8b9021d            ★コメ返信★

        デスティニーのほうは先頭のがバリア貼って突っ込んできて後ろのが追い打ちかけるもんだから割とガチで隙が無い感じなのがウケる

      34. 34. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/13(Mon) 07:37:52 ID:401df974b            ★コメ返信★

        ※30

        訂正なのか追記なのか君個人の感想なのか、わかるように書いてくれ

      35. 35. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/14(Tue) 03:45:02 ID:6cc22c5f5            ★コメ返信★

        よく知らんが
        シャアの呼びかけに答えたアムロを撃墜しただけの人って事かと

      36. 36. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/14(Tue) 09:01:11 ID:0ec9f1465            ★コメ返信★

        ※35

        それはそれで間違ってはいないが、「ただの学徒兵」みたいなモブキャラ扱いは違う。

      37. 37. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/07/16(Thu) 20:48:11 ID:faf5793ef            ★コメ返信★

        ※13
        ミデアの接近に反応しないセンサーがダメ過ぎる。RPGでも倒せそう。

      38. 38. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/08/29(Sat) 14:00:40 ID:fbf0a0ab3            ★コメ返信★

        てか、黒3も、あんな戦法よく「宇宙空間」で使ってたよな。
        狙ってる敵艦には有効だけど、ちょっと上か下から見られたら「いい的」だぞw

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