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【ガンダム】ビーム兵器ばかり槍玉に上がるけど実弾兵器も大概ファンタジーだよね…

1: 名無し 2020/10/07 20:55:38▼このレスに返信

ビーム兵器ばかり槍玉に上がるけど正直ガンダム世界の実弾武器も大概ファンタジーだよね…
2: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:03:10▼このレスに返信
モビルスーツ自体がファンタジーの塊じゃん
3: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:05:28▼このレスに返信
90㎜機関砲の弾を掌ではじき返すガンダムはやっぱりすごいのかもしれない
4: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:06:28▼このレスに返信
ガンダムの頭の機関砲も弾でかかったな
5: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:09:10▼このレスに返信
頭のバルカンで60㎜とかだもんな
15: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:20:18▼このレスに返信
バルカンがたとえサイズ60ミリだろうが
頭のあそこに収まってるスペースの長さならロクな威力と射程ないだろって思う
26: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:40:39▼このレスに返信
バルカンでマッハ5かなんかのドップボコボコ落としてるから初速が遅いってことはない
7: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:12:21▼このレスに返信
バズーカはロケット弾の類だから
これくらいでもそうおかしくもないんじゃないか
10: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:13:56▼このレスに返信
>7
マシンガンの玉と並べて威力比べとか頓珍漢なこといい出してる上の図がそもそもよくわからない
21: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:27:53▼このレスに返信
ハイパーバズーカってあのジムとかも持ってる連邦の標準装備でしょ?
こんなでかいの?
22: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:28:19▼このレスに返信
ハイパーバズーカって700mmじゃなかったのか
ずっと700mmだと思ってた
25: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:37:51▼このレスに返信
ガンダム世界の物はなんでもかんでもすぐ爆発するから炸薬は現実のモノよりずっとすごいんだろう
9: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:13:42▼このレスに返信
薬莢サイズ考えると明らかに炸薬足りてないか初速度でないようなものばかりだ
13: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:18:58▼このレスに返信
>9
そういう細かいこと突っ込むから
ますます分けわからん設定が増えるんだ!!
19: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:23:29▼このレスに返信
>13
下手にリアリティ持たせるためのリアルミリタリー要素を使うからそういうことになるんじゃないかな…
23: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:34:56▼このレスに返信
アニメ世界にリアルツッコミする方が野暮すぎる
24: 名無し 2020/10/07 21:37:05▼このレスに返信
ゾルタンの3分でわかる宇宙世紀見たら真面目に突っ込もうなんて気はなくなるよ
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  1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 08:28:03 ID:a92156a1a            ★コメ返信★

    艦船の砲は排熱の管理で今でも苦労してるからな。
    あの細いフォルムでほとんど歪まない内部機構の強度もやたら強固だし、そのうえで排熱の心配なく撃ちまくってるマシンガン系が一番ファンタジーで実現不可能や。

  2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 09:59:14 ID:9af21dcca            ★コメ返信★

    大昔自衛隊いたけど、90mm戦車砲の徹甲弾の弾頭が1.5リットルペットボトルぐらいあるかないかのサイズ

  3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 12:02:01 ID:99878cc2c            ★コメ返信★

    列車砲「口径だけなら負けないし!」

  4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 12:35:17 ID:a26653cfa            ★コメ返信★

    設定作る側もミリオタ拗らせて作ってる部分があるからな

  5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 13:02:42 ID:afcd479b2            ★コメ返信★

    ガンタンクやガンキャノンの砲(特に基部)をずっと見ていると不安になってくる

  6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 14:07:49 ID:7e3fab360            ★コメ返信★

    なんだかんだでスペースコロニーがいくつも転がってるのが普通の世界なんだから
    宇宙に上がるのに莫大な予算と選ばれたエリートでないと無理な現実と同じ性能ってことはないだろう
    見た目が似てるだけで勝手にリアルの威力に換算してもしゃーない

  7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 14:44:17 ID:478772156            ★コメ返信★

    MS用バズーカの場合サイズに対して設定上の口径の数字が小さすぎるんだよな
    普通の砲より肉薄で作れるから同口径の戦艦主砲より細くなるはず
    280mmザクバズーカはまともに考えるとザクに対して水道管くらいの細さになる
    砲身カバーが異常に分厚いみたいな設定が無いと説明つかない

  8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 17:09:58 ID:9c72c1ab1            ★コメ返信★

    >>7
    手で持つ実弾系ライフルやマシンガンの口径が90~120mmの戦車並みってのはいいとして、小さいのは大きすぎ(頭のバルカン)大きいのは小さすぎる(バズーカ系)
    まあザクバズーカに5発込められるんだとしたら太くはできないが

  9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 18:10:01 ID:e149ac608            ★コメ返信★

    WW2の戦車から航空機から対艦戦闘からごっちゃにモチーフにしたんでMSが対艦装備で無敵にしまくったせいでもあるよね。現代戦のマルチロール機どころの性能じゃないからね。
    そこら辺の描き分けとか企画段階では考えたのかな?
    1G重力下戦闘も含め残念なところでもあるよ。

  10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 21:38:20 ID:d2f26704c            ★コメ返信★

    ※8
    ザクバズーカ、実はM202みたいな連装型構造と言う解釈もあったな

    ラケーテンバズは元ネタの口径を単純にMSサイズに合わせて10倍にしたら
    他と比べて異様にデカくなっちゃったので、口径ではなく全長にしたんだっけ

  11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/08(Thu) 23:42:25 ID:8f431c58d            ★コメ返信★

    そもそもあれほどの宇宙進出を果たしてもまだジェット推進とか使ってる訳だが
    実際には今後どのぐらいの年月ジェット推進が天下を取り続けるのかは予想がつかない。

  12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/11(Sun) 01:00:11 ID:65f029712            ★コメ返信★

    そもそも現代より技術が高い世界なのに今の基準が通じると思ってるのがおかしい

  13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/27(Tue) 11:39:03 ID:23abc8eb1            ★コメ返信★

    こういう「リアリティ」はスパイスみたいなもんだからなぁ。
    配合を間違うとやっぱりクソアニメ認定で悪い意味で馬鹿にされるし、難しいね。

  14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/10(Tue) 22:12:02 ID:fb0dcd7dd            ★コメ返信★

    A-10の機首ガトリング砲は30mmであの性能なのだから
    ガンダムも30mmガトリング砲でよかったと思う
    60mmはでかすぎるんじゃないかと思う
    頭の中に弾倉ないといけないのだから

  15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/20(Fri) 13:03:10 ID:e44e5077d            ★コメ返信★

    サイズ考えたら20mmのバルカンか、種のCIWSみたいに12.7mmぐらいじゃないか
    A-10のガトリングは6mもあるんでシステムに翼とエンジンつけたって考えたほうがいい

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    45cmの二連装レールガンとかいうキチガイ火力を積んでるバクゥの話する?

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