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    1: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:44:11▼このレスに返信

    ヒートサーベルスレ
    グフが使用したのはどう見てもビーム兵器に見えるが…
    6: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:48:50▼このレスに返信
    >1
    この時期にビームサーベルが出来るならムサイのメガ粒子砲もMSサイズに小型化可能だろ
    って面倒な事態になるので
    15: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:51:45▼このレスに返信
    >6
    今の関係者に好き勝手解釈させたらラル専用のグフで先行試作された
    危険極まりないビームサーベルだけどラルだから制御できたとかやりそう
    19: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:52:50▼このレスに返信
    >15
    MSにジェネレーターを装備させないまま運用できるビーム兵器とかジオン驚異のメカニズムすぎる…
    2: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:45:22▼このレスに返信

    普通の剣が
    4: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:46:27▼このレスに返信

    加熱するタイプが多いよね
    5: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:47:28▼このレスに返信
    ガンダムの装甲は斬りつつ中のアムロには熱の影響出さない超空気読める兵器
    138: 名無し 2020/10/09 15:36:09▼このレスに返信
    >5
    溶鉱炉の溶けた鉄の横にいる人間が即溶けるわけではない
    空気の断熱効果はかなりすごい
    まあ小説版とかはメガ粒子の微細な塊が貫通して即死とかえぐいこと書いてあった記憶
    7: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:49:04▼このレスに返信
    普通の剣が加熱したらモロくなっちゃうんだけど
    9: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:50:01▼このレスに返信
    普通じゃないんだろう
    11: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:50:34▼このレスに返信
    ジオンのMSは連邦と作りが違うから剣が発熱できる
    逆に連邦のMSは発熱できないしビームあるからそんな必要もないけども
    16: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:52:28▼このレスに返信
    >11
    連邦は実体剣つくらなかったのかね？
    試作ジム辺りが持ってても良さそうなのに
    20: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:53:43▼このレスに返信
    >16
    実体剣は無かったがハンマーならあったな…
    28: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:56:20▼このレスに返信
    >20
    しかもハンマーにブースター付ける変態仕様もある
    17: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:52:33▼このレスに返信
    グフカスの加熱しないヒート剣は中古だからなのか劣化抑えるためなのか
    気になって寝れやしない！
    29: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:56:33▼このレスに返信
    ラルグフの剣は形状記憶合金で瞬間成形したとかそんなんじゃなかったっけ
    31: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:57:29▼このレスに返信
    >29
    それの方が即装甲修復とかに応用できそうで脅威どころじゃないメカニズムなんだよなぁ
    37: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:59:21▼このレスに返信
    >31
    ガンダムの盾溶断できる強度の剣成形できるとかビームどころじゃないとんでも技術だな…
    39: 名無し 2020/10/09 12:59:57▼このレスに返信

    ビームっぽい
    82: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:19:45▼このレスに返信
    >39
    形状記憶セラミックがうんたらかんたら
    42: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:01:05▼このレスに返信
    なんでグフだけにフシギ武器が集中するのか
    49: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:05:24▼このレスに返信
    ヒートロットもたいがいだしな
    50: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:06:07▼このレスに返信

    ヒートって付いてれば何でも切れるんだろ多分
    56: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:07:28▼このレスに返信
    これで切れるならヒート弾丸とか作れば盾くらい簡単に貫通するじゃん
    63: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:13:02▼このレスに返信

    ヒートロッドはMSの腕位の太さがある
    77: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:18:06▼このレスに返信
    >63
    なんといやらしい
    65: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:13:27▼このレスに返信
    こんだけよくわからん状態だと真面目に考えるのがアホらしいな
    66: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:13:53▼このレスに返信
    >65
    スーパーロボットだしな
    71: 名無し 2020/10/09 13:15:32▼このレスに返信
    >65
    だが「指から発射」「触手状兵器」は
    その後のガンダムにおいてもたびたび
    キワモノウェポンとして登場するのだ

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/10/16(Fri) 08:54:22 ID：c7e1872af            ★コメ返信★

        「ジオンはまだ携帯型ビーム兵器の実用化に至っていない」という設定を度忘れしてビームソードのつもりで描いてしまい形状記憶合金云々の設定で無理矢理フォローした

        …というのはわりと有名な話なんだが知らない人多いんかね

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/10/16(Fri) 12:07:43 ID：6655e2c0d            ★コメ返信★

        グフカスのサーベルは赤熱化させんでもスッパスパ切れるようになっとる

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/10/16(Fri) 13:25:10 ID：aa399439f            ★コメ返信★

        MSを切り裂く程の熱量と耐久性があるなら装甲に使えば良かったんでは？

        反応:※4
      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/10/16(Fri) 16:36:55 ID：02f999b15            ★コメ返信★

        ※3
        ヒートホークやヒートソードの刃は寿命が短い
        交換が頻繁なので装甲になんか使ったら補給が追いつかないぞ

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/10/16(Fri) 21:06:34 ID：0dbb23ec6            ★コメ返信★

        以降出てくるのはグフカスのナイフみたいな形ばっかだしやっぱりあれは試作の使い切りビームサーベルなのかもしれない

        反応:※6
      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/10/17(Sat) 19:02:06 ID：a3675de8a            ★コメ返信★

        ※5
        あれビームだとしたら、なんだかガンダムのより強そう
        ・・・いや逆にサーベル型に細く収束したほうが
        良かったりするのかな

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2020/10/30(Fri) 15:52:56 ID：dce4806e4            ★コメ返信★

        あのグフ自体がラル専用機ってことにすればビームサーベルの試作品搭載でいけると思うんだけど
        バンダイは頑なに量産機かつヒートソード扱いするよね

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        初期のヒートホークも刃がビームみたいに熱を放射してるから

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