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【Gガンダム】石破天驚拳の原理について真面目に考察してみるスレ

1: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:01:26▼このレスに返信

石破天驚拳の原理について真面目に考察してみるスレ

3: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:09:52▼このレスに返信

気じゃ…

4: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:10:50▼このレスに返信

石破ラブラブ天驚拳のキングオブハート様は
最初爆笑したけど確かにこれはめっちゃ強い技だという納得力を持っていた

5: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:18:34▼このレスに返信

とりあえずレインもシャッフルも見よう見真似で出せちゃう
それでいいのか流派東方不敗最終奥義

7: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:28:45▼このレスに返信

>5
流派東方不敗は別に門外不出のお留技じゃないから…

18: 名無し 2020/11/10 06:35:21▼このレスに返信

>5
シャッフルはもちろんレインもファイターの域に入ってる逸材だし…

8: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:33:56▼このレスに返信

要するにカメハメ波よね

9: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:35:22▼このレスに返信

>8
どっちかっていうと元気玉+かめはめ波
自然の気を集めてブッパする

24: 名無し 2020/11/10 07:34:57▼このレスに返信

>9
宇宙でもできるのか？

25: 名無し 2020/11/10 07:36:00▼このレスに返信

>24
小説版だと宇宙で威力が落ちるとか

10: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:42:52▼このレスに返信

機体が金色に光るのもビーム布とかにもちゃんとしたSF的な設定がある
たぶん石破ラブラブ天驚拳やそのキングオブハートのおっさんにもきっと…
告白シーンでシレっとビームを素手で弾いてたりマントがドレスになるのは知らん

12: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:54:06▼このレスに返信

>10
そもそもビームが他のガンダムみたいな粒子ビームじゃねえしな

14: 名無し 2020/11/10 06:03:26▼このレスに返信

>10
流派東方不敗を学べば君にもできる！

11: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:45:08▼このレスに返信

名前は萬國驚天掌と似てるのにな

13: 名無し 2020/11/10 05:57:23▼このレスに返信

>11
石破天驚自体は中国古典由来の四文字熟語なので

15: 名無し 2020/11/10 06:05:29▼このレスに返信

マントがドレスになるのはこれの応用だよ

22: 名無し 2020/11/10 07:05:45▼このレスに返信

>15
あからさまに無理があるのに周囲が納得してるのでまあアリかなと思わせるテクニック

17: 名無し 2020/11/10 06:25:20▼このレスに返信

感情をエネルギーに転換できるから二人の愛があふれてる状態なら普段の石破天驚拳より威力高いのは当然

19: 名無し 2020/11/10 06:37:00▼このレスに返信

まず銀色の足から突っ込もうよ

21: 名無し 2020/11/10 06:56:44▼このレスに返信

>19
あれはただのメガ粒子砲だろ

20: 名無し 2020/11/10 06:40:50▼このレスに返信

石破天驚拳
石破天驚ゴッドフィンガー
石破ラブラブ天驚拳
究極石破天驚拳

33: 名無し 2020/11/10 07:54:32▼このレスに返信

>20
ぶっぱじゃなくて相手掴んで握れるってどういう原理なんだろうな･･･

27: 名無し 2020/11/10 07:40:38▼このレスに返信

Gガンで原理の考察なんて意味ないだろって思ってたけど設定は割と考えられてると聞いた

30: 名無し 2020/11/10 07:48:20▼このレスに返信

一番進んでんじゃないのって超科学

35: 名無し 2020/11/10 08:00:15▼このレスに返信

>30
ガンダムファイターのトンデモ技をリアルタイムで再現してみせるMFそのものがヤバイ
ゴッドに石破天驚拳のデータすらなかっただろうに｢今こそ撃って見せい！｣｢出来た･･･｣だもん

36: 名無し 2020/11/10 08:06:28▼このレスに返信

>35
シャイニングフィンガーソードの時点で出力おかしいし
ゴッドが変なビーム撃つこと自体はそこまで違和感ないかな

54: 名無し 2020/11/10 12:02:12▼このレスに返信

>35

31: 名無し 2020/11/10 07:49:52▼このレスに返信

デビルガンダム作れる時点で超科学

37: 名無し 2020/11/10 08:22:12▼このレスに返信

石破天驚拳を撃つ機構はヤマトガンダムの時点で既にある

38: 名無し 2020/11/10 08:24:06▼このレスに返信

>37
ミケロとチボデーみたいな顔してんなシュウジクロス…

41: 名無し 2020/11/10 08:30:20▼このレスに返信

>37
これ読んでみたいけどたけーんだよな

42: 名無し 2020/11/10 08:37:36▼このレスに返信

>37
師匠はネオジャパンからネオホンコンに移籍したのか

43: 名無し 2020/11/10 08:41:16▼このレスに返信

>42
アニメの頃から謎の出身地の日系人

44: 名無し 2020/11/10 08:42:47▼このレスに返信

香港に大阪あるんか…

39: 名無し 2020/11/10 08:24:53▼このレスに返信

ファイターの技そのまんま再現してるだけだな

50: 名無し 2020/11/10 10:04:57▼このレスに返信

どういうエネルギー変換して放ってるんだろうか

51: 名無し 2020/11/10 10:32:29▼このレスに返信

理屈はオーラ斬りと一緒やろ
本人の気力を消費してエネルギーに変換してる

60: 名無し 2020/11/10 12:17:20▼このレスに返信

気よりも感情エネルギー変換の方が凄いよ
それでもボロカスに言われるが…

68: 名無し 2020/11/10 12:37:42▼このレスに返信

>60
「このシステムは欠陥品だ（お前この程度で終わる奴じゃないだろ？もっと上目指せるって！）」なのが辛い
実際後にゴッドガンダム完成させちゃうの考えるともっと辛い

69: 名無し 2020/11/10 12:41:52▼このレスに返信

>68
欠陥指摘された上にアルティメットガンダムなんて見せられたらそりゃ曇る

61: 名無し 2020/11/10 12:18:16▼このレスに返信

感情をエネルギーに出来るシステムを開発したミカムラも十分天才
それの欠点を指摘出来るカッシュは鬼才

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4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/11/11(Wed) 22:09:01 ID：39a4089d5 ★コメ返信★

感情をエネルギー化するシステムの失敗でイデオンが生まれたとかその辺も考慮すると
Gガン世界結構すごくない？
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/11/11(Wed) 23:54:43 ID：c7a7996f2 ★コメ返信★

むしろ流派東方不敗の技をほとんど使えないドモンが継承者の時点で、武術流派としては1代目で断裂してるよね。

反応:※6 ※14
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/11/12(Thu) 00:25:44 ID：9f2a2c661 ★コメ返信★

この技実は感情エネルギーより気の方が無理があったりする。生身で撃って掌サイズのエネルギーなのにMFに乗っただけでほとんど等身大のエネルギー出したら普通一発でぶっ倒れる。
※5
いうても作中の流派東方不敗の技って電影弾と十二王方牌と天驚拳だけだし…
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/11/12(Thu) 00:29:23 ID：73e75eee6 ★コメ返信★

感情の力と周囲の気を集めたんじゃない？
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/11/12(Thu) 02:51:22 ID：7d778b9d5 ★コメ返信★

レインやシャッフルは気でシンクロしてるからできるんやで
一人だと使ってへんかったやろ？
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/11/12(Thu) 12:22:26 ID：eb7816f3f ★コメ返信★

MFから撃つぶんには重力波に高熱粒子乗せたようなもんかなと思ってる
生身のは知らん
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/11/21(Sat) 15:29:55 ID：20bee08a5 ★コメ返信★

エネルギー原は生体エネルギーの氣で、機体はそれを動力に動きパイロットが鍛練すればするほど強くなる。パイロット次第ということやな。重力2000倍の中を動けたりナマクラ刀を大木でレーザーブレードのような刃先に変えたりドモンは稀にみる異質な戦闘家
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/11/22(Sun) 19:24:28 ID：0623f8b86 ★コメ返信★

補足だと流派東方不敗を修めた者はその拳で巨岩をも砕き、
ギアナ高地の大瀑布すら分断するほか、天然自然の力を借りて技を操ることができる。
マスターはなかでも布を用いた技を好んで使った。
極めつけとして、生身でモビルスーツと渡り合う事も可能になる

>天然自然の力を借りて技を操ることができる
これが石破天驚拳の原理では？
12. 名前:トク・メイ投稿日：2020/12/29(Tue) 10:34:03 ID：84f77b296 ★コメ返信★

10>>
その機体の原理は知らんが、ドモンの方はニュータイプみたいな感じかな
ニュータイプはミノフスキー粒子を集めてバリア作る特性あるし
で、
11>>
の天然自然のエネルギーを集めたと。錆びた刀はそれで解決出来るな
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/01/03(Sun) 16:37:47 ID：dd148c86f ★コメ返信★

シャイニングショットの凄い版。んで、G世界のビームはナノマシンで成形してるので(マスタークロスなど)形状コントロール可能。つまり自由自在に形を変えられる水風船のイメージ
気力をエネルギーに変える仕組みは知らん
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/12/15(Wed) 18:46:32 ID：c411e190d ★コメ返信★

石破天驚拳は自身の気を極限まで練って撃つ技なんだよなあ
小説本編は違う
※5
にわか乙
東方不敗が伝えられなかったのは石破天驚拳だけと本編で口にしてるから劇中では使わなかったであり使えないだ
第一ゴッドシャドーは十二王の応用だし
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某最新版最後の勇者の王にして必殺技が爆熱ゴッドフィンガーと被るあの七人が乗ってる機体に勝機はある？
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