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    【ガンダム】コアファイターが元になってるの結構あるけど、いっぱい余ってたの?



    1: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:17:01▼このレスに返信

    ジェットコアブースタースレ
    2: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:18:57▼このレスに返信
    コアファイターが元になってるのって色々あるけど
    コアファイターって余ってたの?
    7: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:22:11▼このレスに返信
    >2
    ジムにコアファイター不採用だったから
    11: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:23:31▼このレスに返信
    >7
    設計する前に気付けよ
    4: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:21:28▼このレスに返信
    ジムに搭載されると大量受注期待して生産ライン作っちゃったんだろう
    5: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:21:49▼このレスに返信
    コアファイターはハービッグ社の製品で連邦が開発してた訳じゃないからコアファイター改造してたわけじゃないんでは
    13: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:24:10▼このレスに返信
    >5

    18: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:25:00▼このレスに返信
    コアファイター大量に余ってたならコアブでいい気がする
    コアファイター量産する前ならフライマンタでいい気がする
    コアファイター余ってたから一部流用してジェットコアブ作るねがよくわからない
    機首以外どこに行った?
    24: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:28:08▼このレスに返信
    >18
    コアブースターお高いねん……
    21: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:26:29▼このレスに返信
    コアファイターって結構高価な戦闘機じゃなかったっけ
    それを誤発注って
    23: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:27:34▼このレスに返信

    >ジェット・コア・ブースター(コア・イージー)
    >OVA『機動戦士ガンダム 第08MS小隊』に登場(型式番号:FFB-7Bst)。
    >コア・ファイターの機首部分を流用し、コア・ブースターをもとに新規設計した胴体部を持つ戦闘爆撃機。可変カナード翼とベクタードノズルを持ち、高い運動性を誇る。コア・ブースターの空軍仕様である本機は運用領域を大気圏に限定しているため、推進機関はジェットエンジンに換装されている。その一方で、コア・ファイターの機首とアビオニクスを流用していることから在来機と比較し電子戦機器は高価である。
    >製造元のハービック社は大量受注を見越して生産ラインを整えていたが、突然の終戦によって負債を抱えた。
    25: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:28:37▼このレスに返信
    >No.793528407
    ギリギリ量産前だったけどもう生産ライン作っちゃったよ!?だったのか
    30: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:30:22▼このレスに返信
    そもそも素のコアブーがコアシステムいらなくね?
    と気付いてからスレ画が世にでるまで結構時間かかった気がする
    32: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:32:09▼このレスに返信
    >30
    いやコアブースターの肝はコアファイターの学習型コンピューターと核融合炉だぞ
    ビーム兵器使えるのもコアファイターの融合炉あるからだし
    31: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:30:26▼このレスに返信
    アムロが素のコアファイターで結構戦績出してたから
    コアファイターだけでいいじゃんって思ったけど
    さすがに武装とか航続距離に不安があるから
    ブースター設計したのかなあって
    40: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:38:01▼このレスに返信
    既に散々言われてるけどジョニー・ライデンの帰還3巻によると
    もともともジムにもコアブロックシステムを搭載する予定だったのでラインをつくったけど
    ジムにはコアブロックシステムは使わないことに
    でも既にコアブロックシステム搭載MSを使ってる部隊もあるからラインを閉じると補給物資が供給できない
    じゃコアファイターにポン付けできる追加武装をつけることで戦力化できない?というアイディアに至る
    そこでコアブースターを開発すると、確かに強いんだけどコスト高すぎで量産は無理だよ
    結局、落とし所としてコアファイターのパーツを使って安価でそこそこの強さのスレ画を量産することに
    44: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:41:35▼このレスに返信
    >40
    公式企画・公式設定扱いなだけあってほどほどによく補完してるよねあれ
    47: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:44:05▼このレスに返信
    >40
    カセット式とはいえ核融合炉や変形後のパーツは流用してるだろうから丁度機首があまるんだな
    41: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:39:01▼このレスに返信

    キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
    42: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:39:10▼このレスに返信

    キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
    54: 名無し 2020/11/19 23:48:56▼このレスに返信

    やっぱり純粋に戦闘機として使う分にはコアファイターだと余計な機能が多すぎるだろうね
    サンダーボルトだと変形機能を逆手にとって母艦の護衛戦闘機として使ってたけど
    あの世界はジムにコアブロックシステムが搭載されてるからまた事情が違うんんだろうけど
    85: 名無し 2020/11/20 00:28:02▼このレスに返信

    ミサイル搭載量考えると何処に核融合炉あるねんってデザインだけど気にしたら負けだ
    87: 名無し 2020/11/20 00:29:00▼このレスに返信
    >85
    ガンダムの融合炉は小型化されてメチャクチャ小さい
    ドラム缶よりちょっと大きいぐらい
    その分だけ出力も低いんだとか
    88: 名無し 2020/11/20 00:31:09▼このレスに返信

    >87
    そんなに小型なら最初からF91くらいのサイズでよかったのでは?
    89: 名無し 2020/11/20 00:32:39▼このレスに返信
    >88
    融合炉以外が大型化した
    小型MSは技術成熟と技術革新で軽量小型高出力化した
    93: 名無し 2020/11/20 00:39:40▼このレスに返信
    >88
    そのドラム缶がガンダムで7個ついてるのでその分でかくなってしまった
    96: 名無し 2020/11/20 00:44:34▼このレスに返信
    >93
    なるほどそれが小型MSでは一つにまとめられる程に強力になったと
    確かにZZとかメチャクチャ沢山ジェネレーター積んでたらしいしな
    103: 名無し 2020/11/20 02:43:15▼このレスに返信

    キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
    104: 名無し 2020/11/20 02:43:54▼このレスに返信

    キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
    105: 名無し 2020/11/20 03:06:42▼このレスに返信
    MS一体余裕で引っ張れる搭載能力すげえ

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/20(Fri) 16:27:46 ID:8f84c27e8            ★コメ返信★

        ジェットエンジンに換えたと言っても熱核ジェットだからビームの余力はあったと思うんだけど高くなるから積まなかったのか

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/20(Fri) 16:45:13 ID:925227903            ★コメ返信★

        ガンプラの都合設定よりワンサイズ小さくなってるから超性能機って勘違いされもするわな
        ジムに搭載されたものもあるだろうにその設定は観たこと無いな
        気になるのは腹部の構造が後の機体に残ったことかな
        (っていってもリ・ガズィがゼータに意匠似せたように全く無意味の可能性も高いが

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/20(Fri) 17:14:28 ID:c4e891634            ★コメ返信★

        ガンダムの検品漏れで陸ガン作ったみたいにコアファイターも余ってたのかと思ったら、ここまで世知辛い設定だったのか…

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/20(Fri) 18:23:47 ID:d87ddae0e            ★コメ返信★

        分離できないガワだけ使った個体もあるんじゃないかな
        あれがあの世界では空力上飛ぶとしたらそこだけをコストダウンのため使い回したりしてさ

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/20(Fri) 18:54:41 ID:ddb699f73            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        普通の戦闘攻撃機で対MS戦特化というわけでもないみたいだし
        そもそも特にビーム兵器積む必要もなさそうではある

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/20(Fri) 20:56:21 ID:70ad478b1            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        熱核ジェットエンジンと核融合炉を混同してないか?

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/20(Fri) 23:52:03 ID:b56bd3563            ★コメ返信★

        ジェットコアブースターって、五式戦と似たような生い立ちだったんだなぁ、と・・・

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/21(Sat) 13:14:20 ID:5135b10b0            ★コメ返信★

        陸戦型ガンダム作れるくらいガンダムのパーツ余ってたし、その陸戦型や4号機以降にもコアファイター使ってないし、結構余ったんだろう。

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/21(Sat) 19:43:33 ID:9b44d4e25            ★コメ返信★

        勘違いしてるやつが多いよな
        ジェットコアブースターにも核融合載っかってると思ってる奴

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/21(Sat) 20:11:28 ID:38d00ecfa            ★コメ返信★

        その指摘自体、今さら?ってくらい出てるの読めない人も凄いよな

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/21(Sat) 20:24:21 ID:7081ca63a            ★コメ返信★

        核融合炉搭載のコアファイターを量産するつもりで部品を揃えようとしたが、
        GMの量産で核融合炉を持っていかれて機首だけ残った・・・・・とか?
        (ワイバーンまで作られるほど、機首が余りました)

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/27(Fri) 01:49:53 ID:f9f4d0495            ★コメ返信★

        まずはみんなエレファント重駆逐戦車のwikiを見てくるんだ

        というかこれに限らず1年戦争の何でこれ作っちゃったの
        普通に考えたらこんなの作らないだろ系は
        大戦中の現地改修品や突貫兵器、試作兵器やらを調べると
        実は大したことなかったりする
        今まで受け入れられなかったMSVや後付けも受け入れられるようになってお勧めだぞ

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/27(Fri) 22:28:40 ID:afc5e64c9            ★コメ返信★

        Gファイターの量産計画があった世界線のGファイターの評価とか知りたくなるな

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/01/15(Fri) 19:44:37 ID:ea7d81f02            ★コメ返信★

        重力下での戦闘機の優位性は別にかまわんが
        無重力化でGファイターやコアブースターがドムゲルググを墜とすのはぶっちゃけ興冷め
        火力がありゃ人型なんて必要なかったんや

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        コアファイターって18メートルのガンダムの腹に収まる大きさだから
        可変しても10メートルX5メートルもないだろ。
        小さすぎ

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