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    1: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:44:18▼このレスに返信

    キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!!
    5: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:46:03▼このレスに返信
    まだ結構夢あるな
    14: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:48:19▼このレスに返信
    二足歩行なんて非現実的
    4足にすべき
    19: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:48:50▼このレスに返信
    現実的か考えたらまず人型の時点でおかしいからな
    20: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:48:55▼このレスに返信
    夢のない俺ガンダム
    頭と脚はいらない
    79: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:56:34▼このレスに返信
    二足歩行の時点で大分夢あるだろってなるけど
    キャタピラにしたらガンダムじゃなくてガンタンクじゃんってなるからしなかったんだろうな…
    32: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:50:31▼このレスに返信
    ガンタンクでいいよガンタンクで
    30: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:50:24▼このレスに返信
    人型ロボの時点で夢が溢れてるからどうやっても夢がある兵器になっちゃうよね
    53: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:53:44▼このレスに返信
    航空機じゃないだけ夢見すぎ
    73: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:55:51▼このレスに返信
    方向性が違うだけで夢たっぷりに見える
    83: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:57:06▼このレスに返信
    まぁ二足歩行って前提を保った上でロマンを削ったらこうなる的な話だからな
    87: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:57:20▼このレスに返信
    人型の時点でナンセンスなんだから右は却って中途半端なだけなのでは…
    103: 名無し 2021/02/11 21:58:43▼このレスに返信
    >87
    そうだよ
    実用性関係なく暴走族が車をデコるのと同じようなもん
    139: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:03:11▼このレスに返信
    発想がつまらないってよりは単にデザインがカッコ悪い
    というか顔からしてわざとやってる
    145: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:04:44▼このレスに返信
    >139
    バルカンを除けば割と王道メカしてない?
    166: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:08:15▼このレスに返信
    アニメと違って現実はかっこいい方が勝ったりしない
    関節を減らして動作信頼性を高めて軽くて頑丈な方が勝つ
    関節は少ないほど機械はつよい
    197: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:12:00▼このレスに返信
    >166
    つまり自走砲最強ってことじゃん!
    最強?
    204: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:12:49▼このレスに返信
    >197
    兵器なんて用途さえ満たせればそれでいいんだ
    最強というのはよくわからん
    255: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:17:47▼このレスに返信
    現実の兵器とか工場に並んでるロボットアーム見ててもダサいどころかカッコいいものばっかりだから優秀なデザインの人に頼めばカッコよくなるんじゃない? それらを活かしたアニメが面白くなるかは別問題で見栄えで
    260: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:18:16▼このレスに返信
    >255
    工業デザイナーに頼んだ結果がターンエーです
    261: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:18:26▼このレスに返信
    >260
    かっこいいじゃん
    168: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:08:30▼このレスに返信
    夢のないリアルロボットならもっとリアルにできるんじゃない?
    夢のないガンダムならこんなもんだと思う
    183: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:10:26▼このレスに返信
    リアルさ重視したらそもそも人型ですら無くなるだろうし
    186: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:10:43▼このレスに返信
    とりあえずリアルにするなら人型はやめてもらう
    191: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:11:06▼このレスに返信
    人型以前にサイズがね…
    205: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:12:50▼このレスに返信
    >191
    質量を保持したまま戦車なり航空機にしてもロマンの塊だよな
    全長が大体同じ戦闘機でも重さは倍になる
    350: 名無し 2021/02/11 22:38:45▼このレスに返信
    右の方が夢がありすぎるというか機械にあこがれる男の子が喜びすぎる

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 08:26:16 ID:e3d757f70            ★コメ返信★

        何度目の記事じゃ。

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 08:31:07 ID:31d7ed4bd            ★コメ返信★

        二足歩行人形ロボットとして、なら分かるけど、兵器として現実的かどうかは・・・

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 08:43:05 ID:7a63bbed5            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        ふたばは一度受けたら柳の下のどぜう狙うアホも多いから

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 09:20:05 ID:e3b72942a            ★コメ返信★

        うる覚えって書いてる時点で頭悪いってわかる

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 09:29:31 ID:8154ac512            ★コメ返信★

        お前はまだ、
        夢を捨てきれてない

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 09:35:41 ID:b382e7e49            ★コメ返信★

        センサー後方だけ、は意味が無い(下記が理由)
        カメラ、センサーがたくさん、股間にカメラ・・・ってもともと全身にたくさんついてるぞ、頭はメインカメラメインセンサー
        きれいなふくらはぎ~ってこの時代の連邦は内部骨格じゃなく外部骨格のMSだ
        この絵のように内部のフレーム(ムーバブルフレーム)で作り始めるのはZ以降の時代
        コアファイターは超高価な教育型コンピューターをなんとしてでも持ち帰るためのもの、量産一般機にはもともとついてない
        バルカン自由に動かせるようにしても操作おいつかねえ、パイロットは一人、1年戦争時代では無理だな
        ガンダムとしても、ミリタリーとしても、SFとしても考察がゆるいわ

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 09:47:56 ID:4dd02859d            ★コメ返信★

        外装はなんとでもなるだろ

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 09:54:22 ID:eec269aee            ★コメ返信★

        商業的な成功を求めた結果、ダン戦は装甲娘になったんやぞ?

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 09:56:22 ID:ec95829c9            ★コメ返信★

        サイズは3mくらいに抑えたいね

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 09:57:01 ID:b1f400d06            ★コメ返信★

        あの世界の二足歩行MSはどれも実現できるようには到底見えないよね
        ただ水中用MAやガンタンクやボールくらいなら今の技術でも全然作れそうだけどね

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 10:58:30 ID:20aa94dc1            ★コメ返信★

        ガンダムはビームライフルが本体で、ガンダムはおまけ。

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 11:02:34 ID:89db6638e            ★コメ返信★

        ゾイドオルタナティブかな?
        現実的な兵器とか言っといてビームサーベルがあるのはかなり恥ずかしいゾ

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 11:04:06 ID:ca01a266d            ★コメ返信★

        そもそも頭部は360度回るからジオングモノアイをバルカンに換装すれば実用的なんだよな
        俯角は別兵器で。

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 11:28:38 ID:90cbd42eb            ★コメ返信★

        ※6
        ついでに書くと給排気を前方に纏めたのは後方にメインスラスターとビームサーベルやキャノン一式があるからで、むしろ他に持っていきようがなかった感あって現実「的」だったりする
        右のデザインは描いた人の中では合理的なのかもしれんが逆に頭で考えた感があってイマイチ

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 12:11:10 ID:70ab753ea            ★コメ返信★

        先ず複座化

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 12:18:02 ID:5c5f7dad0            ★コメ返信★

        そのむかしミリヲタに、前面からの投影面積についてとくとくと解説されたわ

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 13:03:07 ID:47e1f67a3            ★コメ返信★

        二足歩行にしてくれるだけ有情
        分かってないやつはボールに銃口いっぱいつけてハリネズミすりゃいいとか平気で言いだすからな

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 13:50:21 ID:6650f6697            ★コメ返信★

        二足にするならやっぱナイトメアフレームのようにするのが良いんじゃないかな

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 14:33:53 ID:740819a3f            ★コメ返信★

        パシリム地上波放送の実況で、「そもそも人間がロボットに乗る事自体合理性を欠いてる」って空気読めないツイートしてる奴がいて、そっとフォロー外した

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 15:19:39 ID:2ad684400            ★コメ返信★

        現実的にするってそれがどういう方向性によるかって散々言われてるやん 中身を現実的なら側はそのまんまでも再現できるし、逆に原作設定重視だとどれだけかけ離れた姿にしても再現できんだろと

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 16:31:06 ID:855af24a1            ★コメ返信★

        >記事261
        は?醜いわ

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 16:35:50 ID:9d852f367            ★コメ返信★

        とりあえずコアファイターは廃止するよね

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 16:53:48 ID:30f534d37            ★コメ返信★

        ※22
        それでもF-111戦闘爆撃機の脱出カプセルみたいなのは内蔵してほしいと思う
        脱出後に単体で飛行出来れば尚良し

      24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 17:16:08 ID:488a480cb            ★コメ返信★

        パワードスーツ、強化外骨格は医療用と軍用で初歩的なモノが実用化される所まで来てるけど
        大型の二足歩行ロボとなるとねえ…

      25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 17:20:12 ID:189ca9b2a            ★コメ返信★

        ※21
        ポアするしかないな。

      26. 26. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 20:00:20 ID:1408b4d1d            ★コメ返信★

        歩くだけで大概の町の人は潰せる。

      27. 27. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 20:02:54 ID:ce7fed0f1            ★コメ返信★

        ※10
        なにげにあの世界の「ロボット」で一番実現が難しいのって
        ハロな気がする……

      28. 28. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 20:24:14 ID:e3d757f70            ★コメ返信★

        そもそもなぜ人型なのか

      29. 29. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 20:39:37 ID:d40cf41c4            ★コメ返信★

        オリジンの序盤でガンダムのプロトタイプにいそうで普通にありだわ

      30. 30. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/18(Thu) 21:08:13 ID:cb42c71f4            ★コメ返信★

        ガンダムじゃなくてザブングルだべ?これ…

      31. 31. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/19(Fri) 02:24:57 ID:918dedb07            ★コメ返信★

        人型なのはあくまで汎用型のロボットっていうのが前提だからね
        ボールやタンクで宇宙、地上、水中、空中、ジャングル、渓谷、山間部とかを全部網羅して戦うのは無理だからボールやタンクはそもそも候補にすら上がらないって話

      32. 32. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/19(Fri) 04:42:27 ID:e4fe436a4            ★コメ返信★

        ※25
        オウム信者だな逮捕するわ

      33. 33. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/19(Fri) 04:43:02 ID:e4fe436a4            ★コメ返信★

        ※25
        ターンエー信者はオウム信者だっただな

      34. 34. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/19(Fri) 11:20:18 ID:b3f41386f            ★コメ返信★

        現実的なら重機の双竜のアームが大型マニュピレーターでパイルバンカーとかガトリング装備とかになるでしょ~頭と脚が要らんわ
        ガンタンクもアレキャタピラーが剥き出しな上に大き過ぎて被弾しやすい&胴体旋回出来ない弱点あるからな~割りと非現実的

      35. 35. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/19(Fri) 20:12:25 ID:e4fe436a4            ★コメ返信★

        ※25
        贔屓がカルト臭いですやめてください

      36. 36. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/20(Sat) 05:21:40 ID:027201970            ★コメ返信★

        1stの時点で「モビルアーマーでいいだろ」だったんだよ
        その割に奇天烈なMA多かったがw

      37. 37. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/21(Sun) 17:26:10 ID:6ddb06317            ★コメ返信★

        ダグラムだなーこれ

      38. 38. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/23(Tue) 18:27:19 ID:1618dce3e            ★コメ返信★

        まだだいぶ夢見がちだな

        公式でボールあるんだからあれぐらい思い切って良いんだぞ

      39. 39. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/07(Sun) 05:18:17 ID:1f60b18e2            ★コメ返信★

        正直、人間じゃないんだから頭部そのものが要らんよ。
        いっそ銃座(砲座)にしてしまえばいい。位置関係としても丁度いい。
        カメラに関しては全身に複数配置しておけば破損リスクにも対応できるし。

      40. 40. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/09(Tue) 16:19:26 ID:6b4c0b865            ★コメ返信★

        やはりクラタスレベルが実用的か

      41. 41. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/17(Wed) 10:12:30 ID:efb19b6fc            ★コメ返信★

        まあ中に鉄が詰まったビルが動いてるようなもんだからいい相手から見て的だよね
        アニメだから相手のMSのハイパ-融合炉の爆発に耐えられての光速のような速さで動いてるけど

      42. 42. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/19(Fri) 19:50:58 ID:662c4ff4c            ★コメ返信★

        そもそも巨大さと二足歩行が現実的じゃないよね
        ただの的じゃん

      43. 43. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/19(Fri) 19:51:56 ID:662c4ff4c            ★コメ返信★

        巨大である必要ない
        人型である必要ない
        二足歩行である必要ない
        パイロットもいらない

      44. 44. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/19(Fri) 19:52:49 ID:662c4ff4c            ★コメ返信★

        移動の仕方はガンタンクかドムあたりが現実的

      45. 45. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/03/30(Tue) 16:20:36 ID:54e28f529            ★コメ返信★

        これ見ると半分くらいはわかってて今のデザインにしてるんだな
        ガンダム以前の方がこれに近い

      46. 46. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/08(Thu) 11:18:59 ID:53b992f12            ★コメ返信★

        スタンディングモード付のAI戦車が良いのではないでしょうか
        前方投影面積は最小に
        車高の上下で現地の多様な地形に対応可能
        現地改修で人力操作も可能になりワインも燃料になる

      47. 47. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/05/02(Sun) 13:55:07 ID:0e28dc367            ★コメ返信★

        バルカンは視覚の方向でとっさに出せるから固定なのでは…

      48. 48. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/05/24(Mon) 11:26:22 ID:301174332            ★コメ返信★

        技術的に難しくても2本足の兵器はそれなりに意味があると思うけどなぁ。
        足場悪くても踏ん張れるし横へのステップや上体をそらせることでの直線的な弾への対応が可能なこととか。
        近代戦の砲撃だとサイズが3mだろうが20mだろうが数十キロ単位の射程の前には誤差に過ぎないし。
        歩兵の餌食だっていうやつもいるけど、そんなに歩兵が強いなら戦車もこの世から無くなっていなければおかしいだろ。

      49. 49. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/08/10(Tue) 21:06:10 ID:7f860bc70            ★コメ返信★

        ※48
        ぶっちゃけ重さと動力源の問題だからな
        2m以下+超高性能の筋肉で構成されてる人間でも簡単に腰痛めるわけだし

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