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【ガンダム】ジオング「未完成です、シャアが乗りますが赤くないです」←これがクソ恰好いい理由

1: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:24:53▼このレスに返信

ファーストでシャアが最後に乗る機体なのに赤じゃないところにお禿のすごさを感じる

3: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:27:28▼このレスに返信

ジオンの遺児が最後にジオンの名を冠する機体に乗るんだぜ

2: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:26:06▼このレスに返信

未完成の機体ってのもいいよね
趣きがある

4: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:28:12▼このレスに返信

ジオングって改めてみると凄く格好いいよね
子供の頃はこの格好良さが解らなかったよ

73: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:15:30▼このレスに返信

>4
いや画像のプラモがリファインされてカッコイイだけで元はカッコいいとはとても…
デザインの不気味さというかラスボス感はあって好きだけども

10: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:31:22▼このレスに返信

ディティールアップするとカッコいいよね
正直アニメレベルの細かい情報無いとそんなでも無い
太田垣版とかも凄く好き

16: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:33:37▼このレスに返信

>10
fu182680.jpg
アニメの時点でクソかっこいいと思います

117: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:29:59▼このレスに返信

>16
ラスボス感ある

5: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:28:27▼このレスに返信

いきなりこんなの渡されてちゃんと使いこなせるシャアは偉いよ

6: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:29:16▼このレスに返信

足が付いてたら勝ててたのかな

8: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:29:57▼このレスに返信

>6
足がついたらデカ過ぎるよ

7: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:29:19▼このレスに返信

別にシャアのために用意してたもんでもなんでもない

13: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:31:57▼このレスに返信

>7
メタ的にも話数短縮なければ別の奴が乗ってんかな

15: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:33:03▼このレスに返信

>13
ララァ・スンが乗っていたとかかな
殺す気満々だな

14: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:32:24▼このレスに返信

>7
ララァかシャリアブル用だったのかな

31: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:01:56▼このレスに返信

ラスボス機としてあたためて来た奴なんだろうか…

9: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:29:59▼このレスに返信

お顔とかシルエットの威圧感というかインパクトは
いまでもMSトップレベルだと思える

11: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:31:44▼このレスに返信

考えてみたらジオンだけど全身ビーム兵器の塊なんだよね
ザクからえらい進化をしている

37: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:04:06▼このレスに返信

>11
サイズ考えなければジオンはなんでもかんでもビームなんだ
MA大概ビームの塊だし
というか実弾積んだMAってのがあんまり思いつかないとも言う

18: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:36:47▼このレスに返信

この子のビーム効果音がすごく不気味で好き

25: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:51:21▼このレスに返信

左腕をシールドごと吹き飛ばした時はコイツやべえ感すごかった

27: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:55:22▼このレスに返信

ちょっと武装が大味すぎる…

32: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:02:34▼このレスに返信

>27
戦艦どかどか落とすのに向いてると思う
アムロとの決戦には不向きだ

34: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:03:20▼このレスに返信

>32
どうしたらよかったんです

38: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:05:28▼このレスに返信

>34
アムロ狙わず戦艦ドカドカ落としてれば良かったのでは

28: 名無し 2021/07/22 17:59:08▼このレスに返信

戦艦どかどか落としてたけど1年戦争時のMSとは思えない

43: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:06:52▼このレスに返信

どうせ何やってもあの頃のアムロには当たらないんだからこいつみたいに雑に威力と範囲で飽和攻撃する方が正解なんじゃないだろうか

48: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:07:38▼このレスに返信

ラスボスが不完全な状態ってのはいろいろ想像の余地があっていいなと子供心に思ってた
実際は足があろうがなかろうがそんな変わらんって設定らしいけど

52: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:08:03▼このレスに返信

>48
本編でも飾りって言ってたし…

114: 名無し 2021/07/22 18:29:08▼このレスに返信

>48
そもそも劇中「未完成だ」とは言っていたが
完成形には脚が付くというわけではないのだ

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 18:26:06 ID：da87e264d ★コメ返信★

100%になったからって足がつくとは言ってません
もっと上半身がマッシブになります

反応:※16
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 18:33:15 ID：c715754f6 ★コメ返信★

「誘導弾もレーダーも無用と化した戦場なら巨大人型兵器が絵空事にならないぞ」って先行したジオンが、
最終的に「なぁ…やっぱり人の形してる意味なくね？」って異形の兵器に帰結していくのがガンダムの良い所じゃないか。
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 18:54:51 ID：4d49588bd ★コメ返信★

チョコとのコラボ商品で赤いジオングのことは「シャア専用ジオング」って呼んでるわ
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 18:55:08 ID：411800f34 ★コメ返信★

言うほど異形でもないやん
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 19:04:55 ID：77e98457f ★コメ返信★

脚付くと格好良さが無くなる

反応:※17
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 19:24:12 ID：b89d7e544 ★コメ返信★

上腕の装甲が20％だったのかもな

反応:※11
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 19:34:03 ID：f40c86704 ★コメ返信★

単純にデザインが良い
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 19:36:06 ID：b140f3b84 ★コメ返信★

なんとなくガンダムを意識したデザインじゃないかなーって思ってる
最終決戦で連邦のガンダムとジオンのガンダム擬きの対決
まぁ個人の感想だけどね
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 20:04:31 ID：534305362 ★コメ返信★

残りの20％は、上腕装甲に加えて腕を無線で飛ばす予定だったんだと思う
ビットが完成している以上、有線を前提に作ってはないだろうし
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 20:05:04 ID：dd40886e2 ★コメ返信★

ジオングの「グ」ってなんやねん
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 20:14:28 ID：411800f34 ★コメ返信★

※6
んな設定ねーよ
ジオングのはブラウブロの有線制御式メガ粒子砲の小型改良型
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 20:20:59 ID：33df2ac8c ★コメ返信★

よく考えたら赤いモビルスーツって中二病全開でカッコよくはないよな
ジオングになって少なくとも色使いだけはまともになったと言うことだろう

反応:※14
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 21:56:10 ID：2137b2aae ★コメ返信★

シャア「色が赤くないようだが？」
とか言わなくてもよかった

反応:※25
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/23(Fri) 23:21:28 ID：f40c86704 ★コメ返信★

※12
いやルーツからしてカッコいいよ
何の実績もない中学二年生が真似るとダサいってだけで
中二病の使い方間違っとる
15. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 00:18:05 ID：4a10be216 ★コメ返信★

ジオングとかブラウ・ブロってヒモ入れるスペースがバカにならんと思う
……シンエヴァのあのヒモ使えないかな？
16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 00:32:47 ID：c57660aa6 ★コメ返信★

※1
だから高機動型はバックパックが付いたんだろ

反応:※20
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 00:34:59 ID：c57660aa6 ★コメ返信★

※5
足が無いと地上や月で使えない、月でガンダムと戦うと最後の決め技が踏み潰すだから勝てない
18. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 00:41:01 ID：592e9ded7 ★コメ返信★

初めて見た時から禿げたおっさんのイメージが凄く強いせいでカッコ良さは全然感じられなかった
何してくるのかわからん不気味さならトップクラスなんだけども
19. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 00:56:20 ID：486eda895 ★コメ返信★

RG用のパーフェクトセットはまだかなぁ
20. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 01:55:30 ID：ef859a968 ★コメ返信★

※16
そんなゲームオリジナル持ち出されても
21. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 06:24:18 ID：5d7adcea8 ★コメ返信★

本当だったらジオンの最初のニュータイプ乗るんだよな
22. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 09:01:34 ID：3a2ad4e56 ★コメ返信★

脚があれば開幕ジオングキックで終わってた
23. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 09:04:33 ID：174beadaa ★コメ返信★

ジオングはなんか困り目の埴輪みたいな顔に見えてなぁ…

反応:※30
24. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 09:11:10 ID：bc41df70b ★コメ返信★

コックピットが二つあるので機体操縦をシャア、サイコミュをララァというのが最強形態だったのではと思う
25. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 10:38:17 ID：6a7f45a11 ★コメ返信★

※13
4コマ漫画でそんなネタがあったな
整備兵「ジオングの性能は100％出せます！」
シャア「そうじゃなくて、赤くないじゃないか（赤のペンキを持ち出して塗装しようとする）」
整備兵「（シャアを制止しながら）大佐！　今から塗ってる時間なんて！　何があんたをそうさせる！」
26. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 11:29:11 ID：5e83a5306 ★コメ返信★

未完成のNT専用機にNTとして未知数のシャアを乗せるからカッコいい
それで連邦最強パイロットと引き分けに持ち込んだからロマンの塊
27. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 12:44:54 ID：dbc5b8bd8 ★コメ返信★

足があるかないかはどうでもいい。80%の出来であそこまでの戦果あげたから100%だったらアムロは負けていたって思わせるのが大事だったんだろ。
28. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 13:30:02 ID：d595a5e3b ★コメ返信★

想像するに足は上層部から押し付けられたオプション装備で、本体的にはあれで完成だったんだろ
そもそも腕伸ばしたままアンバックしたらケーブル絡まるし

反応:※29
29. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 16:31:10 ID：ef859a968 ★コメ返信★

※28
もともと足なしのAプランと脚なしのBプランで作ってて、Aプラン採用したのがアニメのジオング
Bプランの方も作ってたがそっちは間に合わなかった
30. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 17:17:34 ID：34f3477d9 ★コメ返信★

※23
むしろそこがいい
吊り目吊り目吊り目ときて
最後に哀れみの目というのが実にラスボスっぽい
31. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/24(Sat) 18:57:06 ID：4539b4644 ★コメ返信★

デザインの原案が御大なんだよな
エルメスの語源もあるし完全体はサイクロプスがモチーフなんじゃないかと想像したくなる禍々しさが素晴らしい
オリジンでのより現代風なアレンジを期待してたけど割とまんまだったのが残念ではあった
32. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 06:33:51 ID：248432f3c ★コメ返信★

顔の怖さがインパクトありすぎた
もしアレにゲルググみたいな頭とかついてても強そうに見えない
33. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 17:17:01 ID：7ee4e4c50 ★コメ返信★

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34. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/10(Tue) 14:23:06 ID：9aab078c4 ★コメ返信★

脚が無い事と全体的なグレーの色調で調査出土した半壊した石像のが持つ様な、「古の秘密が暴かれたのに高尚で繊細」な趣がある。
眼がハの字で嘆きの感情が現れており、顔の輪郭も真ん中の稜線も美男の顔つきを作ってる所が見た人間を生物の安心感を与えながらも、モノアイの通り道から騎士の様にも見える。
そしてその顔が空中浮遊し、手も分離して空を飛ぶという幽霊じみた演出。それでいて体格も大きいのでパワフルな印象もある。

ジムは無個性が個性のデザインだが、ジオングは各方面の知識雑学に長けた人の発想だと思う。本当に偶然が無いタイプの素晴らしいデザイン。
35. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/19(Thu) 09:42:12 ID：b1fa0dda1 ★コメ返信★

これはね、ジオングは開発系統がきっと違うって思うんだよ

大型機、優先サイコミュ、各部分離機構、大推力バーニア
そして色

ジオング開発の源流はおそらく「ブラウ・ブロ」なんだよ
むしろブラウ・ブロのMSタイプ

完全なニュータイプ・ララアでしか扱えなかったMAエルメス
シャリア・ブルでも扱えたMAブラウ・ブロ

むしろ、ジオングはシャリア・ブル用だったのかもと考えた方がすっきりする

最近はそう考えるようにした
あくまで妄想だけどね
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