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【ガンダム】ポケ戦ってアンチがいなさそうだけど昔はどうだったの？

1: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:50:38▼このレスに返信

>アンチがいなさそうな作品
という事は無いんだろうけど何故かそんなイメージはある

2: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:52:20▼このレスに返信

地味な作風なのと古いのも相まって強烈なアンチはもういなくなっただけだと思う
当時はだいぶ言われた

3: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:53:59▼このレスに返信

アレックスが出る回だけは売上良かったから0083はガンダム前面に押し出す様になった説は聞いた事あるから
アンチが居なかったわけじゃないんだろうなってのは分かる

6: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:56:59▼このレスに返信

一年戦争でこんなに高性能なMSがいるわけないじゃん！っていうアンチはいたけど
多分もう定年過ぎてるお爺ちゃん

9: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:58:09▼このレスに返信

主人公がガンダム乗らないってだけでそれなりに言われてたしなぁ…

13: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:02:22▼このレスに返信

クリスのキャラいまいち薄くない？
比較対象バーニィとアルだけど

18: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:06:29▼このレスに返信

女性がガンダムのパイロットなのはちょっと（笑）とか
いやセイラさんとかZZであっただろ！とか
ネットのレスバトルみたいなことを雑誌の後ろの方でやってたのを見たことがある

12: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:02:12▼このレスに返信

良くも悪くも0083とか08MS小隊が目立ったので今では見かけないけど
それなりにアンチがいた記録は当時のプラモ雑誌とか見ると残ってる

15: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:04:32▼このレスに返信

ケンプファーってジオンMSの名前じゃないだろって言われてそう

27: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:11:20▼このレスに返信

普通の戦争ものの要素をガンダムに突っ込んだだけといえばそう
ラストの友達の言葉は悪趣味すぎて逆にリアリティがない

30: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:29:24▼このレスに返信

まあ今ぐらいやっぱクソっすね戦争はって描き方の方が良いっていうか…
0083は戦争カッコ良く描きすぎ

32: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:39:03▼このレスに返信

ガンダムが出ていて非戦物としてはすごくガンダムではあった
なんかオカルトは無かったけど

14: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:03:30▼このレスに返信

ガンダム初OVAで平成ファーストガンダムがアレックスという色々と初めてな作品

16: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:04:47▼このレスに返信

初の富野じゃないガンダムだしな

28: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:14:28▼このレスに返信

初OVAがこれというのはなかなか尖ってると思う

29: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:16:49▼このレスに返信

>28
初非富野としてはなかなか冒険というか
これぐらい冒険してないと新しいガンダムは作れなかったって気がする

8: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:57:38▼このレスに返信

ぶっちゃけ0083より胸糞悪い

17: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:05:01▼このレスに返信

>8
この後もっとでかい戦争あるから！と慰めるとかデリカシーがなさすぎる
でも男子小学生にデリカシー求めても仕方ないんだよな

26: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:10:54▼このレスに返信

>17
台風来るぜ！って休みになってワクワクしてたら意外と自分の地域は大したことなくすぎて行ったような感覚だよね子供的には
悪気は特にない

22: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:08:09▼このレスに返信

改めてみると
半分くらいアルのせいで起こった惨劇

25: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:10:34▼このレスに返信

サイクロプス隊がコロニーに来たのアルの写真のせいだもんな…

24: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:09:41▼このレスに返信

アルが嘘が巧すぎるからな…

23: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:08:58▼このレスに返信

アルの咄嗟の演技力のレベル高さ
ろくな大人になりゃしねぇぜ

20: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:07:22▼このレスに返信

アルはその若さでちょっと戦争の悲惨さを知りすぎじゃねえかな…

4: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:54:58▼このレスに返信

実はこれだけ見たことない

7: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:57:03▼このレスに返信

>4
クリスマスに見るといいよ

21: 名無し 2021/08/01 22:07:41▼このレスに返信

ブレンパワードと並ぶ二大クリスマスロボ作品

10: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:58:56▼このレスに返信

映画かなと思ってたから6話くらいあって長えって思った
面白かったけど

5: 名無し 2021/08/01 21:55:43▼このレスに返信

幼稚園生くらいの頃から定期的に何度も見返してるくらいには見やすくていい作品だと思う

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 07:22:05 ID：74f59733c ★コメ返信★

お涙頂戴シナリオだから必死こいて叩く奴も居ないけど「退屈」とか「別に無くてもいい」って意見は昔からある。
あと統合整備計画はいうまでもなく無理があるけどこれは最早ネタ化してる。
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 07:43:26 ID：3fa4e1619 ★コメ返信★

それまでのシリーズと見比べて設定的におかしいところに馴染めない人はいたけど、アンチ的になるような精神的に幼い人は表だって出てこない世の中だった。
そういう連中も声を出せるようになったのはネットが普及してからだしな。
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 08:44:44 ID：c7f5487da ★コメ返信★

シドニーってもう…
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 08:50:53 ID：dac278a4e ★コメ返信★

たかがアニメコンテンツその中でも更にマイナーな部類のOVAにギャーギャー騒ぐ時代でも無かったからな
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 09:17:57 ID：7063dadcf ★コメ返信★

ネットが普及し始めた90年代後半だとめんどくさいオタの叩きの矛先はもう他に向いてたイメージ
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 11:13:37 ID：535cc80d7 ★コメ返信★

そもそもオタクである事自体が恥ずかしいという風潮のあった時代で表立ってアニメにあれこれ言う奴が少なかった。
近年の世界的なアニメ高評価の波に乗って古参オタクや知的オタクを自称したがる奴が増えてツッコミ入れたがる奴が増えた。

反応:※7 ※15 ※17
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 11:33:04 ID：dba6ca1a3 ★コメ返信★

※6
そんなことはないよ。
世間的には恥ずかしい人達の集まりの中で色々賞賛したり貶したりしていたはずだ。
それがなきゃガンダムだって数十年も続いてない。
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 12:45:04 ID：462697023 ★コメ返信★

OVA版は間違い勢と小説版は間違い勢の静かな抗争がたびたび起きては沈静化していくイメージ
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 13:44:48 ID：df05fae19 ★コメ返信★

WW2、特にドイツ意識しすぎだろって批判はかなりあったな
出渕が自分で認める程度には
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 14:19:42 ID：6c8e4674a ★コメ返信★

MS戦が地味でドンパチウェ～イ勢が0083が出た時に0083をもてはやしてポケ戦を駄作扱いした
ストーリー重視勢は俺は好きなのにと静かに耐え忍びその後じわじわと見直される

反応:※13
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 17:31:05 ID：16236ecdc ★コメ返信★

昔のOVAも、今のネトフリ限定アニメみたいにそんなアンチとかやる暇人キモヲタヒキニートな貧乏人がそもそも見れなかったからねWWWWWW
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 18:57:00 ID：eeb43d588 ★コメ返信★

逆に今はポケ戦史上主義者が後続叩いてねーか。作品自体は好きだけど展開が結構ご都合に守られてるのは否定出来ないわ。

反応:※24
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 19:23:36 ID：a8ad8ea65 ★コメ返信★

※10
こういう妄想と現実の区別付かなくなってるのを最近良く見るね。帰ってきた種厨とか。
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 21:42:39 ID：29ca02944 ★コメ返信★

こんなマイナー（当時は）でOVAのガンダムにもアンチがいるんだな・・・
（ネットが普及してアンチの存在が表面化したからなぁ）

ガンダムEXAがアニメ化したらみんな仲直りしよう
15. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 23:54:37 ID：37bdea367 ★コメ返信★

※6
アニメ見てる層は今の方が拡大してるのは確かやね
なので昔の話をするにも今と規模感が違いすぎて温度差を伝えるのは無理だなってよく思うよ

ポケ戦のアンチもいたと言えばいたが、今のアニメ作品のアンチみたいなのとはまるで違うから
探して見にいけばいたけど探さなきゃ目につかないよって感じ
16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/03(Tue) 06:09:46 ID：e7bd09a6a ★コメ返信★

発売当時は東京・埼玉連続幼女誘拐殺人事件があった頃でアニメファンの立場や扱いはお察し
皮肉にもバブル崩壊やインターネット普及で自宅で過ごす人が増えたことによりアニメを見る層が拡大したというのが実感だなあ
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/03(Tue) 07:54:04 ID：3fe5f5675 ★コメ返信★

※6
昔のオタクの肩身の狭さは半端ないからなあ
18. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/03(Tue) 22:08:32 ID：1a4b56f24 ★コメ返信★

流れ、音楽、ラストは至高
19. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/14(Sat) 21:25:30 ID：d353302af ★コメ返信★

あの当時小学生だったが、子どもはストーリーは良く知らない、けど当時ブームだったSDガンダムのおかげでMSがカッコよくて大人気だった
20. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/24(Tue) 10:07:49 ID：ce3e853ac ★コメ返信★

コロニー外の無重力描写でおかしいところがあるのがどうしても気になる
21. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/08/28(Sat) 13:16:47 ID：3041708ab ★コメ返信★

どうだったのって言われても
当時ネットなんて普及してませんでしたし
OVAと言う最寄りのレンタルビデオに有ればラッキー的な

狭い俺の周囲で言えばアンチがどうの以前に
話のタネにするほど有名でもなかった
22. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/09/09(Thu) 23:23:17 ID：7f31ec287 ★コメ返信★

当時そこそこの年齢で逆シャアで脱落しないでこれ見てた人は殿堂入りのガノタを名乗ってもいいと思う
23. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/09/27(Mon) 02:02:10 ID：df9596269 ★コメ返信★

お涙頂戴シナリオとか言ってる人割と普通に居るけど、どう読んでもガノタやミリオタがMSでキャッキャしてるのを「客観視しろ」と窘めてる作品なんだけどな。
「おまえらこんなので喜んでるけど、戦争起きたら大事な人みんな失って人間関係グチャグチャになるよ」って言う教訓を最高にカッコイイデザインでやっちゃうからオタクが未だに勘違いしてるだけだと思う。
24. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/09/27(Mon) 02:03:16 ID：df9596269 ★コメ返信★

※12
ポケ戦至上主義？何それ？ｗ
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