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1: 2018/02/18 04:09:26 No.1573569

ついにビームマグナムとメガビームキャノンの威力が
同じになってしまった!
MSの火力はUC時代で天井に到達したってことかな?
3: 2018/02/18 06:32:41 No.1573586

威力は同じでも射程はV2のが上だから
4: 2018/02/18 06:57:21 No.1573588

プラモのインストなんて資料的にはカスやし
そもそも艦艇のビームシールドブチ抜いてるスレ画が他の兵器と同等には到底見えん
5: 2018/02/18 07:07:15 No.1573590

スレ画で言えば時代で火力が上がったんじゃなくて
取り回しとか運用性が上がったって話じゃね
11: 2018/02/18 10:05:00 No.1573615

>取り回しとか運用性が上がったって話じゃね

オーバーキルな威力よりも整備性とか信頼性とか安定性とか射撃精度とかが向上したと考えれば納得できる。

6: 2018/02/18 07:14:52 No.1573592

取り回しならキャノンよりマグナムの方がコンパクトじゃね?
7: 2018/02/18 08:44:04 No.1573603

ビームマグナムは一発で空だし
連射できるならV2の方が使い勝手が良いんじゃないの?
8: 2018/02/18 08:56:13 No.1573604

現実の銃器もサイズ同じなら破壊力は頭打ちなんじゃない?
23: 2018/02/18 12:09:14 No.1573642

>現実の銃器もサイズ同じなら破壊力は頭打ちなんじゃない?
使う弾頭によって色々変わるで

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  1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2018/03/11(Sun) 18:18:04 ID:0f5c51fbf Reply

    そもそも15m級のV2の火力が25m級のユニコーンと同じならV2の方が技術が上って事だろ
    オカルト抜きなら、ユニコーンの攻撃は当たらずV2の火力はユニコーンを破壊出来る、でいいやん
    UCアンチ騒ぎすぎ

  2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2018/03/11(Sun) 19:22:02 ID:db44a2e81 Reply

    ※1
    そういう事だね

    だけど、こういう時に問題になる理由は
    やっぱユニコーン最強。F91もVガンも目じゃないぜ
    なんて言っちゃうアレな人が多い事
    なんで時系列で後年の機体が強いなんて当たり前の事が許せないんだろうなコイツ等は

  3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2018/03/11(Sun) 22:06:28 ID:5349d21c2 Reply

    UC信者もアンチも滅びて?

  4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2018/03/11(Sun) 22:46:09 ID:dca84c8d7 Reply

    ※1
    ※2
    そもそもビームマグナムの威力についてだけなら特にユニコーン側が最強厨設定ってわけでもまるでない。
    8.3MW Zのハイメガランチャー
    10.6MW×2 ZZライフル
    ZZライフルはメガバズーカランチャーと同じくらい
    ビームマグナムもメガバズーカランチャーと同じくらい
    56MW Sガンのビームスマートガン

    なにがなんでもユニコーンが悪くないとは言わないけどこのケースはV2側のこのプラモインストが適当なデタラメ記述だったのが原因じゃないか
    そもそも「ハイパーメガランチャーやメガバズーカランチャーに匹敵する」ってそれだけで矛盾してる。設定上でも倍以上違うけどそんな設定知らなくてもZのアニメ見たら明らかに全く違うパワーの武器だったじゃん

  5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2018/03/12(Mon) 00:05:22 ID:3a20f949c Reply

    両者の威力が同じなら、機体と武器の運用上の都合上V2が圧倒的に便利やろ。テクノロジーの進化はそういう部分に現れてるというお話でないの

    威力だけならZZのハイメガの方がよっぽどヤベーしな

  6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2018/03/13(Tue) 21:59:20 ID:c4d2a7bf5 Reply

    プラモデルのインスト信じたらいかんぞ
    PGおっちゃんのビームサーベルが超小型Iフィールド発生装置になっていて
    重金属粒子を閉じ込めてるってことになってるゾ

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  20. 名前:Alexa Düşürme Yöntemleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 02:05:51 ID:e13b36f72 Reply

    Sorry for the huge review, but I’m really loving the new Zune, and hope this, as well as the excellent reviews some other people have written, will help you decide if it’s the right choice for you.

  21. 名前:teknoloji sitesi 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 04:31:17 ID:b59167946 Reply

    The Zune concentrates on being a Portable Media Player. Not a web browser. Not a game machine. Maybe in the future it’ll do even better in those areas, but for now it’s a fantastic way to organize and listen to your music and videos, and is without peer in that regard. The iPod’s strengths are its web browsing and apps. If those sound more compelling, perhaps it is your best choice.

  22. 名前:magazin haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 04:39:26 ID:b59167946 Reply

    The new Zune browser is surprisingly good, but not as good as the iPod’s. It works well, but isn’t as fast as Safari, and has a clunkier interface. If you occasionally plan on using the web browser that’s not an issue, but if you’re planning to browse the web alot from your PMP then the iPod’s larger screen and better browser may be important.

  23. 名前:2018 Model Araba Haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 04:52:45 ID:b59167946 Reply

    Sorry for the huge review, but I’m really loving the new Zune, and hope this, as well as the excellent reviews some other people have written, will help you decide if it’s the right choice for you.

  24. 名前:Son Dakika Güncel Haberler 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 05:03:02 ID:b59167946 Reply

    I’ll gear this review to 2 types of people: current Zune owners who are considering an upgrade, and people trying to decide between a Zune and an iPod. (There are other players worth considering out there, like the Sony Walkman X, but I hope this gives you enough info to make an informed decision of the Zune vs players other than the iPod line as well.)

  25. 名前:Yerli Otomobil Modelleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 05:09:14 ID:b59167946 Reply

    Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.

  26. 名前:Oyun Hilesi İndir 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 05:15:40 ID:b59167946 Reply

    If you’re still on the fence: grab your favorite earphones, head down to a Best Buy and ask to plug them into a Zune then an iPod and see which one sounds better to you, and which interface makes you smile more. Then you’ll know which is right for you.

  27. 名前:Bayan Dövme Modelleri 2018 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 05:21:49 ID:b59167946 Reply

    Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.

  28. 名前:Yeni iş Fikirleri 2018 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 05:28:01 ID:b59167946 Reply

    The Zune concentrates on being a Portable Media Player. Not a web browser. Not a game machine. Maybe in the future it’ll do even better in those areas, but for now it’s a fantastic way to organize and listen to your music and videos, and is without peer in that regard. The iPod’s strengths are its web browsing and apps. If those sound more compelling, perhaps it is your best choice.

  29. 名前:Siyaset Haberleri Son Dakika 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 05:35:54 ID:b59167946 Reply

    Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.

  30. 名前:Son Dakika Dünya Haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 05:41:57 ID:b59167946 Reply

    Sorry for the huge review, but I’m really loving the new Zune, and hope this, as well as the excellent reviews some other people have written, will help you decide if it’s the right choice for you.

  31. 名前:Hatay Son Dakika Haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 05:47:32 ID:b59167946 Reply

    Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass’ favor.

  32. 名前:Kilis Son Dakika Haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 05:52:57 ID:b59167946 Reply

    Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.

  33. 名前:Rize Son Dakika Haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 06:01:17 ID:b59167946 Reply

    I’ll gear this review to 2 types of people: current Zune owners who are considering an upgrade, and people trying to decide between a Zune and an iPod. (There are other players worth considering out there, like the Sony Walkman X, but I hope this gives you enough info to make an informed decision of the Zune vs players other than the iPod line as well.)

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  35. 名前:son dakika haberleri yalova 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 14:31:35 ID:b59167946 Reply

    I’ll gear this review to 2 types of people: current Zune owners who are considering an upgrade, and people trying to decide between a Zune and an iPod. (There are other players worth considering out there, like the Sony Walkman X, but I hope this gives you enough info to make an informed decision of the Zune vs players other than the iPod line as well.)

  36. 名前:Son Dakika Kocaeli Haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 21:28:24 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    The Zune concentrates on being a Portable Media Player. Not a web browser. Not a game machine. Maybe in the future it’ll do even better in those areas, but for now it’s a fantastic way to organize and listen to your music and videos, and is without peer in that regard. The iPod’s strengths are its web browsing and apps. If those sound more compelling, perhaps it is your best choice.

  37. 名前:son dakika mersin haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 21:34:47 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‘Mixview’ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of “neighbors” will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune “Social” is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.

  38. 名前:son dakika aksaray haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 21:40:44 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.

  39. 名前:muğla son dakika haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 22:04:31 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.

  40. 名前:son dakika edirne haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 22:23:47 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‘Mixview’ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of “neighbors” will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune “Social” is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.

  41. 名前:son dakika bilecik haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 22:29:37 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‘Mixview’ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of “neighbors” will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune “Social” is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.

  42. 名前:bolu son dakika haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 22:35:48 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    The new Zune browser is surprisingly good, but not as good as the iPod’s. It works well, but isn’t as fast as Safari, and has a clunkier interface. If you occasionally plan on using the web browser that’s not an issue, but if you’re planning to browse the web alot from your PMP then the iPod’s larger screen and better browser may be important.

  43. 名前:son dakika artvin haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 22:41:58 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.

  44. 名前:konya son dakika haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 22:49:46 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‘Mixview’ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of “neighbors” will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune “Social” is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.

  45. 名前:son dakika izmir haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 22:55:51 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.

  46. 名前:ankara hasta bakıcı 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 23:22:12 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    The Zune concentrates on being a Portable Media Player. Not a web browser. Not a game machine. Maybe in the future it’ll do even better in those areas, but for now it’s a fantastic way to organize and listen to your music and videos, and is without peer in that regard. The iPod’s strengths are its web browsing and apps. If those sound more compelling, perhaps it is your best choice.

  47. 名前:sakarya son dakika haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 23:29:02 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.

  48. 名前:son dakika haberleri amasya 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 23:38:15 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‘Mixview’ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of “neighbors” will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune “Social” is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.

  49. 名前:son dakika haberleri antalya 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 23:44:21 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.

  50. 名前:bursa son dakika haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 23:49:48 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.

  51. 名前:denizli son dakika haberleri 投稿日:2018/05/24(Thu) 23:55:43 ID:59eac10f8 Reply

    The new Zune browser is surprisingly good, but not as good as the iPod’s. It works well, but isn’t as fast as Safari, and has a clunkier interface. If you occasionally plan on using the web browser that’s not an issue, but if you’re planning to browse the web alot from your PMP then the iPod’s larger screen and better browser may be important.

  52. 名前:son dakika haberleri aydın 投稿日:2018/05/25(Fri) 00:01:54 ID:871384700 Reply

    If you’re still on the fence: grab your favorite earphones, head down to a Best Buy and ask to plug them into a Zune then an iPod and see which one sounds better to you, and which interface makes you smile more. Then you’ll know which is right for you.

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    Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.

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    Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.

  55. 名前:son dakika haberleri kayseri 投稿日:2018/05/25(Fri) 00:19:07 ID:871384700 Reply

    The Zune concentrates on being a Portable Media Player. Not a web browser. Not a game machine. Maybe in the future it’ll do even better in those areas, but for now it’s a fantastic way to organize and listen to your music and videos, and is without peer in that regard. The iPod’s strengths are its web browsing and apps. If those sound more compelling, perhaps it is your best choice.

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    Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass’ favor.

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    The new Zune browser is surprisingly good, but not as good as the iPod’s. It works well, but isn’t as fast as Safari, and has a clunkier interface. If you occasionally plan on using the web browser that’s not an issue, but if you’re planning to browse the web alot from your PMP then the iPod’s larger screen and better browser may be important.

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