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    1: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:10:32▼このレスに返信

    地球連邦政府に高い金払って居住権を得ても奴隷みたいな扱いで悔しくないのかよ
    2: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:11:31▼このレスに返信
    ガンダム世界はディストピアだからな
    4: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:13:43▼このレスに返信
    これ居住権貰えなかったらどうなるの
    5: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:14:16▼このレスに返信
    >4
    マン・ハンターに宇宙に送られる
    9: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:17:09▼このレスに返信
    >5
    拒否権は?
    10: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:18:20▼このレスに返信
    >9
    拒否してもいいけどリンチされるか
    最悪殺されるかだな
    47: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:39:38▼このレスに返信
    なんなら居住権得ててもマハに狩られる
    54: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:42:25▼このレスに返信
    マンハンターになればやりたい放題ってこと?
    59: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:43:51▼このレスに返信
    >54
    銃で武装した不法居住者相手にすることになるし
    オエンベリなんて3万もそんな奴らが集まって
    アニメに至ってはモビルスーツで武装蜂起始めてるがな
    62: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:45:34▼このレスに返信
    >54
    というか実は連邦軍人がその辺の特権と福利厚生含めて一番職業的に安定してるという
    マフティー以降は123年のコスモバビロニアまで大規模紛争無いし腐ってぬくぬくしてられるし
    91: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:51:55▼このレスに返信
    >62
    「あれウソ」ってのが最近のF90周りのリブートだったり
    96: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:53:06▼このレスに返信
    >91
    大規模ってほど規模デカくなかったり地球圏から離れすぎてたりそんなんばっかなのがあの辺の時代なのよ
    140: 名無し 2022/08/10 21:06:23▼このレスに返信
    マンハンターもVガン時代までいくと単なるパトロールしてる人ぐらいになってるし…
    146: 名無し 2022/08/10 21:07:39▼このレスに返信
    >140
    腐敗していたとはいえ時代の変化についていけず理念も機能も形骸化していくのに諸行無常を感じる
    80: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:49:58▼このレスに返信
    地球連邦って制度的には民主制だったっけ?
    108: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:55:31▼このレスに返信
    >80
    そもそも論として「地球連邦という国が宇宙移民政策を取っている」んじゃなくて「宇宙移民政策を推進する為に地球連邦が作られた」んだ
    地球連邦政府や地球連邦軍に強権が与えられてるのも多少強引でも全人口の宇宙移民を達成させるため

    まあそんな強権持たされた組織が腐敗しないわけがないんだが

    90: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:51:44▼このレスに返信
    連邦高官「コロニー開発なんてせずに人口統制すればよかったんじゃないですか?」
    92: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:52:37▼このレスに返信
    >90
    ギレンが正しかった事になっちまう!
    97: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:53:12▼このレスに返信
    >90
    聞いてくれるんならマンハンターなんていらないんですよ!!
    30: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:31:38▼このレスに返信
    コロニー建造や居住者は加速度的に増えていくんだけどそれで既存コロニーの保守整備をきちんとできずに老朽化したり廃棄コロニーをきちんと管理できずに不法居住者ができたりしているんだよね
    40: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:36:23▼このレスに返信
    >30
    そりゃコロニー公社だって今までジオンだから切り離ししてたサイド3の管理も自治権放棄だからやれよって急に言われても無理だろうしな
    32: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:32:56▼このレスに返信
    ジュドーが言ってたように移民時代初期に作られたシャングリラなんてコロニーとして腐り始めてるんだから
    これを補助金なりなんなり出して支援しない政府が健在なら
    ハサウェイの時代にテロされてもしゃーないっていうか…
    15: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:22:00▼このレスに返信
    連邦政府の主流派もとい閣僚会議がカスだから
    別の派閥の官僚のトップであるクワックがマフティー立ち上げで白色テロだから
    結局これも連邦政府の内ゲバという
    Zガンダムと対立構造殆ど変わってねえというのは突っ込んではダメなんだろうか
    17: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:24:06▼このレスに返信
    >15
    政府も暇人だな
    18: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:24:09▼このレスに返信
    >15
    組織肥大化のツケでしょ
    ジオンもUC100年記念と言わんとばかりに自治権放棄で連邦に再編入されてるし
    52: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:41:36▼このレスに返信
    被害をみればかつかつになったのは一年戦争の大損害のせいなんじゃねぇかな
    61: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:44:37▼このレスに返信
    >52
    とにかくもうどんな理屈でも人減らさないとズタボロの一組織で処理できないほど業務が滞ってるんだろうな…
    68: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:46:42▼このレスに返信
    >61
    コロニー落としのせいで港湾部がボロボロになったのとデラーズ紛争の穀倉地帯被害がシャレにならない事態になっているので
    あとは南米のジャブロー核自爆もヤバいよアレ
    71: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:47:07▼このレスに返信
    >61
    100億が数週間で50億まで減ったのに
    すぐに100億に逆戻りしてるとか
    あの世界は政府能力どうこうじゃなく
    人間の繁殖能力がおかしい
    76: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:48:40▼このレスに返信
    >71
    居住地増やせばそりゃねずみ算式に増えるよ
    ましてや一年戦争後はコロニー再製造して方々に送ってるし土地と仕事がありゃ子供は増える
    81: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:50:04▼このレスに返信
    宇宙規模で養殖場を大量に作って人間養殖してると考えれば増加スピードは現代の地球の比じゃないと思う
    コロニーの数がとにかく多い
    100: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:53:34▼このレスに返信
    現実じゃ今世紀中にも人口増加ストップしそうなのに
    宇宙世紀は元気だねセックス大好きか
    118: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:59:33▼このレスに返信
    >100
    娯楽が現実ほどに発達しなかったのかもね
    119: 名無し 2022/08/10 20:59:42▼このレスに返信
    逆シャア辺りの当時からしたら人口減って苦労するとは思わないよなぁ…
    123: 名無し 2022/08/10 21:00:41▼このレスに返信
    >119
    東南アジアは発展する前に高齢化するよ
    とか言ったら頭おかしい扱いだろうな
    121: 名無し 2022/08/10 21:00:27▼このレスに返信
    結局80年代くらいに予想された未来の延長だからなそこは
    126: 名無し 2022/08/10 21:01:46▼このレスに返信
    社会が高度になればなるほど子供作らなくなるなんて…

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 06:52:48 ID:083cddad3            ★コメ返信★

        コロニーも息をするのにも金がかかり
        地球は偉いさんの奴隷みたいな生活で
        つまりはアナハイムがある月が真の勝ち組が集う場所だと

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 07:15:56 ID:3c6cb1afa            ★コメ返信★

        >ギレンが正しかった事になっちまう!

        戦争の結果物理的に減った人口は副次的なものだが実際にギレンがやろうとしてた本命の人口統制がどういったものかわからんから何ともいえん

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 07:27:58 ID:e7c647be0            ★コメ返信★

        長期間大規模戦争ないなら仕事してるじゃん
        本当に腐ってたら紛争起きるだろ
        政治とか叩いてるやつってこんな当たり前のこと分からないからアホって思われるんだよね

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 07:41:23 ID:a35942164            ★コメ返信★

        技術の進歩で恋愛やセックスより楽しいことが増えたからな…

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 07:54:00 ID:84b7bb09f            ★コメ返信★

        日本も突然人口が半減すればなんか子作りムーブ起きるかもよ
        ジワジワ減っていくから危機感無いだけで

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 08:03:42 ID:84b7bb09f            ★コメ返信★

        人口が急減したら享楽にふける余裕もなくなるかもしれんしね

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 08:44:50 ID:d1e703336            ★コメ返信★

        >記事90
        強制断種とか、ガンダム世界以上のディストピアじゃねーか

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 09:43:04 ID:8b933cb7b            ★コメ返信★

        ※5
        金の問題があるからねぇ
        日本は人生の最低ラインが高い
        スラムも山間で暮らす少数民族みたいなのもないから、戦前の生活基準まで下がらないと子供は立派に育てなきゃいけないという思想でストッパーがかかる

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 09:44:35 ID:303ac72a4            ★コメ返信★

        コロニーは空気税とかとられてるんだろ?

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 09:56:41 ID:8b933cb7b            ★コメ返信★

        知識として地球の環境は知ってるから、青空も海も山も地平線も絶対拝めないコロニー生活ってかなり落ち着かないものだと思うわ
        夢物語にしか存在しないものじゃなく、金と権利さえあればそこで暮らせるわけだから
        自分ならやっぱり羨ましがると思う

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 10:08:28 ID:462797857            ★コメ返信★

        ※3
        孤児なら薬漬けにして使い潰して良いと言うガノタ共みたいな屑がいる世界は腐ってるけどガンダム世界は5000億倍マシだな。

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 10:12:06 ID:462797857            ★コメ返信★

        ※3
        ガンダムログと言う所で孤児達を薬漬けにして使い潰している屑共をまともとか言ってるガンダムファン達がいるけどそんな考えが持てるこの世界が腐ってると思う。

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 10:14:04 ID:d1e703336            ★コメ返信★

        ※11
        ガンダム製作者だろw
        特に夫妻

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 12:27:03 ID:73a3ff614            ★コメ返信★

        ムーンレイス「ちきう住みたい!懐古!」
        グエン「ムーンレイスの技術!革新!」
        争う理由は…

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 13:01:01 ID:b04b22ea1            ★コメ返信★

        コロニー落として地球環境めちゃくちゃにしたやつら「地球はコロニーなしではもはや生きてはいけない」
        超絶マッチポンプ

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 13:17:55 ID:8b933cb7b            ★コメ返信★

        ※14
        グエンがどっちも独り占めしようとしたから
        月の技術だけじゃなくて月の王になる予定のギンガナムも操れると思ってた

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 14:30:53 ID:d1e703336            ★コメ返信★

        ※15
        そのためのコロニー落としだろ
        少なくともギレンは理解してただろう
        シャアは知らん、多分おかしくなってたんやろ

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 16:41:20 ID:4927760b9            ★コメ返信★

        戦争で人口半分になりました←善悪問わずこのチャンスを活かせよ!?そもそもが人口増加による宇宙世紀だろ!そこは人口制限してどうぞ。

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/11(Thu) 17:32:24 ID:dee873658            ★コメ返信★

        コロナ前から棚を守護してたガンプラたちを買い集めて自宅に積んできた人たちに対して、積んでる自慢するならどうせ作らないんだろうし、売れ!とかいうようなもんかな?

        売ったら売ったで転売しやがってとか言い出しそうW

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/08/14(Sun) 16:28:04 ID:d6d226ab6            ★コメ返信★

        それこそ最初のガンダムが上梓された頃からこちらと分岐した歴史なんだろうな
        情報技術もカーボン系の素材も発展せず、代わりに金属加工とかが異様に発達した世界
        思想面ではフェミニズムやLGBTQのムーブメントがあまり発展しなかった世界

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/10(Sat) 17:52:12 ID:b7c82c225            ★コメ返信★

        現実でも人口減ってるのは先進国だけで、途上国合わせた地球全体じゃ絶賛人口大爆発中だよ

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/12(Mon) 01:16:15 ID:e712e3436            ★コメ返信★

        全人口の宇宙移民を達成させる為に、急ピッチで荷物制限もして宇宙に送りまくってたけど
        何か地球の人口比が良い感じになったので、途中だけどそこで止めたとかいう経緯があった気がする連邦

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