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1: 名無し 2021/10/24 17:37:26

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2: 名無し 2021/10/24 17:38:17
軽い素材で作られてたんだね
3: 名無し 2021/10/24 17:39:54
2機が押し合いしたら互角の勝負になるのかな
4: 名無し 2021/10/24 17:41:50
出力の高い方が押し勝つんじゃない？
6: 名無し 2021/10/24 17:43:44
左が右を蹴飛ばしたら脚がひしゃげるんだろうな
14: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:05:28
>6
本体はむしろかなり軽いから右が吹っ飛んでいく
このパックがやたら重たい
8: 名無し 2021/10/24 17:45:45
重力下で飛び回る想定なんだからそら比重も軽くなりますわな
13: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:05:00
重いってことでよく上がる種系MSより小さくて重いのか右
16: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:09:59
右は機体だけだと乾燥重量7.5トンで全備重量17.8トンで
他のミッションパック装備状態は20トンから30トンなのに何故かA型だけ異常に重たい
19: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:14:38
>16
多分真面目に推進剤の重量考えた
18: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:14:17
Aタイプが異常に重いんだ
他のパックは結構軽い
21: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:15:40
装甲素材や機材は新素材になって軽くなっても推進剤の重さ変わる訳ねぇだろって事でこの重量らしい
でも最近のスペックは全備重量でも推進剤抜きの重量でだましてくる
23: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:19:08
そんな極端に重かったら操縦に支障ありそう
24: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:19:10
重さ考えると空中戦だと割と運動性能互角くらいあるのかな
31: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:24:21

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並べると
あれだけ色々詰め込んである割にはコンパクトなZZ

33: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:24:58
ガンダムの重量設定を考えだすと平成ガンダムが笑えなくなるからやめるんだ
38: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:26:06
>33
トールギスは重い設定で15m級の8t
いやそれ全身発泡スチロール以下の重量比…
船より中身すっからかんの空洞になっちゃう
49: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:28:37
ウイングとか軽すぎて風吹いたら倒れるレベルと聞いた
57: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:30:22
>49
Wに限らず平成3部全部重量が1桁トンだからやばい
66: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:32:28
なんでこんなアイドルみたいに軽く設定する必要があるんだ
多目に言っときゃいいのに
37: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:25:48
逆にその辺のサイズ重量出力可動性を考えて作られてるロボ創作ってあるのか？
47: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:28:07
>37
真面目に考ると結果宇宙開発も人形ロボの戦闘もカッコいい電子戦もできなくなりました！ってなるからどこかで魔法が必要になる
39: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:26:28
f91小さいな？！
48: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:28:32
>39
あの頃になるとジェガンが大型って言われるぐらい新しい機体は小型が主流な流れになるし
53: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:29:34
>39
むしろΞがでかさの割に軽すぎる
現実だとその辺の少し大型のクレーン車とかで40tだぞ
70: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:33:32
逆シャアあたりが巨大化のピークなんだっけ
82: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:35:26
お台場ガンダムは中身スカスカでも35トンだったらしいから中身入りで46トンは未来の技術じゃないと無理だな
79: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:34:36
動ける1/1ガンダムが25tらしい
73: 名無し 2021/10/24 18:34:15
20m以上あるなら雑に100ｔぐらいにしても別におかしくないわけか
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  1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 11:37:05 ID：9f76cc42c            ★コメ返信★

    あの足裏の接地面積であれば、ガンダムが砂浜歩いても足跡できない。そんくらい軽いよ。

  2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 12:21:32 ID：615ff15f8            ★コメ返信★

    柳田理科雄がデタラメな突っ込みして、それを妄信してありがたがる輩が増えたので、
    この時期は重量設定とか、四苦八苦してたんだよ。
    軽くすれば「風で吹き飛ぶ！」重くすれば「機体を支えられないで自壊する！」
    実は正しい重量比でも、計算間違ったりこじつけて難癖付けてくるからな。
    アレで、SFやらロボアニメやら、盛大な損害被ってると思う。
    似た類のツッコミに対する、「俺の宇宙だと、そうなるんだよ！」って
    ジョージ・ルーカスの反応が正解過ぎる。詰る所、そうやって開き直るのがベター。
    細かい数字よりも、ワンダー感じられればいいのよ。フィクションなんて。

    反応:※3 ※8 ※12
  3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 12:31:45 ID：70ee6bbe6            ★コメ返信★

    ※2
    そうなんだよなゴルゴ13の回もひどく
    火薬の爆発力全否定で書いているんだもんな

  4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 12:54:26 ID：69f0939cd            ★コメ返信★

    >記事19
    となると、戦闘続けるうちに推進剤消費したぶん軽くなっていって運動性能が上がるわけか・・・演出によっては燃える展開出来そう

  5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 14:14:16 ID：147edc1f0            ★コメ返信★

    >記事31
    これで最も火力マシマシなのは最古参のZZってのがね。

  6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 14:35:43 ID：9f76cc42c            ★コメ返信★

    にしても、大きさはともかくとして、重さとか出力とかの設定いる？
    それって作中の描写に反映させてるのかな。
    そもそも、誰が決めてる数値なのだろう。
    脚本の人？　監督？　デザイナー？　プラモデルのインスト書く人？

    反応:※7
  7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 15:03:23 ID：544694d67            ★コメ返信★

    ※6
    ＞重さとか出力とかの設定いる？
    確かに、掲示板とかで出力の話で喧々諤々やりあってるスレについていけない…

  8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 15:08:34 ID：544694d67            ★コメ返信★

    ※2
    柳田理科雄　に関する本当の話
    ↑実はこれ戸籍上の本名。科学、サイエンスの道に進んだのはあくまで「偶然」
    これマメな

  9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 15:11:34 ID：e491eb730            ★コメ返信★

    Ξガンダムからヘビーガンまで数年くらいじゃなかったか？

  10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 16:15:42 ID：8000331fb            ★コメ返信★

    ゆうて20年もあれば零戦がファントムⅡに置き換わるくらいの期間だし

  11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 16:45:12 ID：5ec61802c            ★コメ返信★

    >記事21
    機体がダウンサイジングな上に軽量化しててΞと同じ重量ってどんだけ推進剤詰めてるんだよ！としかならんような…

  12. 12. 名前:０ 投稿日：2021/10/25(Mon) 17:04:46 ID：747de8e83            ★コメ返信★

    ※2
    あの人の本は最初の数冊は笑って読んでたけど段々と呆れて
    読めなくなったわ。
    特に銃砲関連の知識が全くないから前提が間違ってるのに
    デタラメ書きまくってたり、アニメや漫画は作中設定すら
    知らずに適当書いてる有様だし。

    反応:※17
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    Aってミノクラユニットだっけか。
    ミノクラをさらに小型化しても重いもんは重い、って事なのかもなぁ

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    >記事16
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    ルナチタニウムやガンダリウムと言われる物が今は無い謎の複合素材とかなら重量の件はまあまあ、って感じだが、その辺の説明も無いしやると最も素人に取ってて足が出ない科学屋素材屋が出てきてオタク全滅だからな。
    まあその辺の人達の癇に障らないくらいの説明はちょっと欲しいかなと思う事はある。

    そして現代でも宇宙空間でしか出来ない合成を色々試してるのでそう言った新素材が産まれる可能性はゼロではない。

    最近ではカーボンのインゴッドに実用的なレベルで蓄電する技術が産まれたので、SFは人類が強く信じてやめない限りドンドン叶う。だから頭良い人はチャレンジ精神でSFにハマる。

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    ※12
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