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【08MS小隊】これ連邦の切り札らしいけどそんなに強かったの？

1: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:27:27▼このレスに返信

連邦の切り札らしいけどそんな強かったの？

2: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:28:44▼このレスに返信

ノリスは頑張ったのにコイツが何機も控えてたという無常

7: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:34:20▼このレスに返信

>2
ノリス無駄死にだったの…？

8: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:34:45▼このレスに返信

>7
そうだよ

15: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:40:37▼このレスに返信

>7
ノリス以上にガンタンクのパイロットの方がいい面の皮だよな
森林地帯でアンブッシュしてるジムスナがいるならあんなとこまでトコトコやってきたガンタンクのほうが無駄死にだ

3: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:29:56▼このレスに返信

戦いは数だよ兄貴！

5: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:32:15▼このレスに返信

超長距離からザンジバル級沈めるぐらいなので普通に強い
こいつがいると兵達が脱出できないとか(08の話じゃなくて例え話だけど)制空権関係なくガウやファットアンクルがボコボコ墜ちるとか戦術的なインパクトもでかい

10: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:36:26▼このレスに返信

×連邦の切り札
○コジマ大隊の切り札

18: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:41:23▼このレスに返信

>10
大隊ごときにこんなのあるとか連邦に勝てる訳がない

22: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:45:08▼このレスに返信

>18
「ごとき」とはいうが
もともとコジマ大隊は激戦区担当なため優先的にMSもらってるので
他の大隊とは事情がいささか異なるのだ

12: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:38:45▼このレスに返信

コジマの切り札はGMスナイパー
連邦の切り札はスナイパーカスタム

13: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:39:20▼このレスに返信

まぁ撃墜プランの一つを丸々潰したんだからノリスは頑張ったよ……
ただもう個人じゃどうする事も出来ない戦況だっただけで

14: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:40:36▼このレスに返信

ゲームだとかなり弱い

19: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:41:58▼このレスに返信

>14
ビームライフルが強いだけで特に本体が強いわけじゃないし…

23: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:45:28▼このレスに返信

>14
接近されたら撃つなラリー状態になる可能性も高そう

17: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:41:21▼このレスに返信

山前編に既に後方にスレ画居る時点で連邦の手数の多さにはノリスが奮闘してもどうにもならんという暗の描写

20: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:42:34▼このレスに返信

スナイプってか照射で焼き切ってるよね
さすがにジェネレーターは外部依存だし

21: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:42:59▼このレスに返信

ガンタンク部隊と08小隊はイーサンから囮にもされてたんじゃね

26: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:47:12▼このレスに返信

>21
陸ジムが爆弾扱いだったのと同じ
本命は自分所のスナイパー

24: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:46:11▼このレスに返信

スナイパーのビームじゃ基地に有効なダメージ与えられないしできないし
タンクの砲撃じゃケルゲレン落とせないしケースバイケース

25: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:46:33▼このレスに返信

ノリスのセリフで
08小隊のカレン機だったかがビームライフル持ってて
「人型にビーム兵器…！ケルゲレンの脅威になる」とか言って08小隊ごと殺すって決断してた気がする
スレ画みたいな大型のビームライフルじゃなくても普通のMS小隊に脅威度高い武器が配備されてるんだからもはや無駄だって解る

30: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:49:52▼このレスに返信

MSの汎用性の高さよね
機動兵器にもなれるし自走ビーム砲にもなれるしっていう

35: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:56:16▼このレスに返信

ビッグトレーの艦砲に採用すればいいのに
ガンタンクの主砲もスナイパーのビーム砲も

37: 名無し 2021/01/11 15:57:25▼このレスに返信

>35
「ほれみろ！」ちゅどーん

41: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:02:23▼このレスに返信

劇中描写だと超長いビームサーベルみたいな取り回しだったな

42: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:03:54▼このレスに返信

>41
ライザーソード…

44: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:05:06▼このレスに返信

>41
ジェネレーターつけて高出力ビームを射出し続けててすごかった
冷却とかどうなってたんだろうあれ

46: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:06:54▼このレスに返信

>44
だから冷却水絶やすなと

45: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:05:39▼このレスに返信

コロ落ちでもガウ撃墜ミッションで試作ビームライフルが使われたけど
航空機なんかは大型のビーム兵器出されたらアウトだよなぁ

49: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:10:45▼このレスに返信

>45
逆もまた然り
狙撃される前にこっちから狙撃してしまってもいいんだ

51: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:12:06▼このレスに返信

>49
動く前に上を取られて狙撃されるってほぼ詰みだよね

52: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:12:26▼このレスに返信

ジムスナイパーだけ展開して見つかって潰された日には目も当てられないので
プランAプランBプランCと重ねていく分にはガンタンクは無駄死にってわけでもないよ
最終的に囮になっただけで

53: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:14:07▼このレスに返信

トドメ刺すためにビームぐりぐりされてたけど大気圏脱出が目的のケルゲレンにとってはビーム当てられた時点で終わりだし

54: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:14:13▼このレスに返信

ジムスナイパーよりはガンタンクの方が損害としてはマシか

57: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:15:37▼このレスに返信

>54
ガンタンクもあれ量産型だっけ
ジムスナイパーのほうが価格高そうだし仕方ないかも…

71: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:33:28▼このレスに返信

>54
自衛隊の10式戦車１台ですら15臆円なのを考えるとあんなぼこぼこ落とされてたら損害額やばそう

72: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:36:53▼このレスに返信

>71
言うて全世界規模の部隊だからなぁ

55: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:15:28▼このレスに返信

つーかガンタンクは基地潰しでジムスナイパーは航空艦潰しで配置の目的違うんじゃねえの

59: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:19:04▼このレスに返信

>55
左様っぽいがまあ場合によってはガンタンクで航空撃ってもいいかもしれないし
ましてやジオン側としてはその可能性を否定しようがないので大変だなってのもある

56: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:15:28▼このレスに返信

それこそノリスに坑道とか使われていきなり接近戦挑まれたらGMスナイパーは死ぬ未来しか見えないしな

58: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:16:59▼このレスに返信

>56
あのままノリスが戦い続けてたら周辺の坑道からゲリラ的に出没して
隠れてるスナイパーをプレデターのように狩りまくってたりして

60: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:19:46▼このレスに返信

ガンタンクでいぶりだしてスナイパーで撃墜

63: 名無し 2021/01/11 16:23:07▼このレスに返信

>60
ケルゲレンかわいそう

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ロングレンジライフルは外部電源に依存で本体は単なる陸ジムの色違いでしかないから、強いというのとはちょっと違う。
あの状況だからこそ有効的に運用できたけど、最初から存在してるの知られていたら、結果は違ったと思う。
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/01/11(Mon) 18:15:44 ID：aaae4a740 ★コメ返信★

切り札とか強いとかじゃなく、包囲された時点で既に詰み
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/01/11(Mon) 21:40:26 ID：22fac3da2 ★コメ返信★

包囲云々ですらなく連邦にMSが大漁配備された時点で兵力量がね……

反応:※4
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/01/11(Mon) 21:51:51 ID：aaae4a740 ★コメ返信★

※3
この時点ではまだMSの大量配備されてない
震える山はジャブロー基地攻撃作戦の翌日である12月1日
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/01/12(Tue) 00:12:15 ID：4fbc533d7 ★コメ返信★

》囮

いうてもこれこそが実戦ってもんよ。殺せんせーが言ってたように一つのプランだけで上手くいく様な作戦なんかほぼあり得ない。そして一プラン失敗を想定して失敗自体を他プランに組み込む事で成功確率を引き上げる。これこそがあらゆる事態を想定するって事よ
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/01/12(Tue) 05:33:20 ID：20a1cddb1 ★コメ返信★

お兄様は
ジムスナじゃなくシローを先に仕留めればよかったのに
ジムスナはアプサラスⅢを無視してたのに
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性能で言えば宇宙世紀のプロトタイプガンダムじゃない？
アナザーは何だかんだでまともな性能の機体が多いし、そもそも持ってる技術力とかの差で最初から小型MS以上の性能を持つ機体も多い。エクシアリペアですら性能は第三世代型相当のジンクスⅢやそれ以上のアヘッドとまともな戦闘ができる程度の性能はあるわけだし。
初期のOSも加味するとM1は相当怪しいけどさ。
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