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小説版ファーストガンダムって大分話が違くない…？



1: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:22:09▼このレスに返信

小説版大分話が違くない？
2: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:28:15▼このレスに返信
これはこれで悪くない
いや続かねえな…
5: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:32:27▼このレスに返信
あんまり面白くない富野小説の中でも比較的面白くないほうだと思う
10: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:37:15▼このレスに返信
>5
どの小説もメッセージみたいのは伝わるんだけど論文的だったり分かりにくい言い回し多かったりなによりエンターテイメントしてないんだよな
でもオーラバトラー戦記の前半は別人が書いたのかってレベルで面白いと思う
6: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:33:11▼このレスに返信
読みづらい
9: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:37:07▼このレスに返信
ちゃんと軍人として教育されてるアムロのやつだよね
セイラさんの陰毛欲しがるけど
17: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:47:14▼このレスに返信
>9
え！？まだもらってなかったの！？
11: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:38:47▼このレスに返信
金髪さんとセックス！
秘書とセックス！
赤いリックドム！
くらいしか覚えてねぇ
7: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:34:26▼このレスに返信
>アムロが死ぬやつ
14: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:40:29▼このレスに返信
アムロとシャアがやっと分かり合えたところにドムのバズーカがガンダムに
13: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:39:18▼このレスに返信
ガンダムは…わかってくれたのだぞ！
20: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:52:02▼このレスに返信
アムロの死のおかげでみんなわかり合えたから…
22: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:57:00▼このレスに返信
先にハヤトが死ぬんだけど話題にすらならん
なんならララァも早期に死ぬ
24: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:02:47▼このレスに返信
ララァってⅢどころかⅠかⅡで既に死んでなかったっけ
なんで表紙にいるんだろうね
29: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:07:10▼このレスに返信
>24
ララァは一巻で死んでる
アニメほど重要人物ではないよね
27: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:06:14▼このレスに返信
リックドムのパイロットもニュータイプだし腕も十分上位に高いしアムロも落としたんだけど
落としたタイミングが悪すぎて腕前まともに見られてないよね
というか名前が出てくることがない
30: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:08:02▼このレスに返信
いやアムロ撃墜しただけあってオリジナルのキャラじゃクスコアルに次いで有名じゃないかルロイ
31: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:08:33▼このレスに返信
ルロイはガチのテンパった新兵描写しかないもの
腕前とかまともに見るも見ないもない
33: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:10:38▼このレスに返信
ルロイギリアムはGジェネのオリキャラに名前使われてたのが印象深い
34: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:11:31▼このレスに返信
実際Gジェネのルロイはとてもあの状況で取り乱したりしなさそうなのでルークさんになってよかったと思う
ルロイって名前自体が風評被害に近い有様だった
37: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:16:14▼このレスに返信
この時期のシャアっていうけどこれのシャアって復習する気はあるけどガルマ謀殺とかしないし
シャリアブルの協力の元に部隊率いて決戦前からアムロとかと協力出来たらいいなって考えてるし
キャラ違うよな
38: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:17:15▼このレスに返信
アムロ達最初から軍属なのがシャアにとってでかいんじゃないかな…
23: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:01:32▼このレスに返信
宇宙で身を案ずるシャアの制止を振り切って突っ込んで死ぬガルマ
26: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:04:35▼このレスに返信
>23
あれでクビにされるのは完全にとばっちりだよね…
16: 名無し 2021/07/27 18:46:40▼このレスに返信
マチルダさん3割り増しくらいで美人だね
25: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:04:04▼このレスに返信
マチルダさん出てきたっけか…
36: 名無し 2021/07/27 19:12:29▼このレスに返信
挿絵というかページめくった最初の方にある機体紹介のギャンとか登場しねーじゃねーか！
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  1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/27(Tue) 23:10:06 ID：24d73966e            ★コメ返信★

    >>挿絵というかページめくった最初の方にある機体紹介のギャンとか登場しねーじゃねーか！

    なんならガンタンクも登場しない

  2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/27(Tue) 23:13:35 ID：8bf644f12            ★コメ返信★

    言っちゃなんだけどガンダムの小説って面白くない…

    反応:※3 ※4 ※21
  3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/27(Tue) 23:32:31 ID：f0fc33955            ★コメ返信★

    ※2
    だから、ファーストガンダムは最初1巻だけで完結のはずだった
    （銀英伝と同じく、初版は「1」がついていない）
    ただ、物凄く売れちゃったんで、2巻と3巻が出版された
    　
    当時は、あんなもんでも面白かったんだよ　初版で買っちゃったし

  4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/27(Tue) 23:32:54 ID：54064686a            ★コメ返信★

    ララァが早々にしんじゃうのは1巻完結で書いたから
    予想外に売れて2巻以降に続いたのでクスコ・アルを出してララァの後追いをさせた

    ※2
    映像でやれない要素の怨念返しだからね…
    でもべルチルは結構いけてたと思う

  5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/27(Tue) 23:42:37 ID：1ff7391ef            ★コメ返信★

    俺の人生を変えた一冊と言っても過言ではない
    ヒロインがおもらしするところで心から痛快に抱腹絶倒して、当時中学生の俺は気づいた
    俺は本当はアニメ嫌い、つまり現実逃避の楽園のようなオタク向け作品は嫌いなのだと
    それで当時流行のビー・バップ・ハイスクール路線に走って、自分らしい欺瞞のない生き方を発見した

    反応:※15
  6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/27(Tue) 23:43:00 ID：be3d99b6f            ★コメ返信★

    台本読んでるみたいなんだよなお禿の小説

    反応:※9
  7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/28(Wed) 00:07:36 ID：37b653ca8            ★コメ返信★

    ある意味主人公がいない方が世界は平和ですエンド

  8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/28(Wed) 00:43:47 ID：bc449d39c            ★コメ返信★

    最後シャアがキシリアか誰かを落下させてカイが「これで良かったのか…？」みたいに故アムロに問いかけるラストだっけ？

    反応:※14
  9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/28(Wed) 02:45:08 ID：e779c55e9            ★コメ返信★

    アニメ版と色々と名詞が異なるので、最初は結構困惑。(ホワイトベース→ペガサスなど)
    しかし、問題はそこではなく、描写を理解するのにエネルギーが必要な小説。
    読むだけで疲れる。
    ※6の「台本読んでるみたい」ってのは結構本質だと思う。

  10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/28(Wed) 06:09:11 ID：cb59818dc            ★コメ返信★

    アムロとかハヤトとか死ぬが、実はマチルダさんとかランバ・ラルとかハモンとかは生きてたりする
    でもラルはこんな役割でいいのって立場に

  11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/28(Wed) 06:26:14 ID：7a2c75fb5            ★コメ返信★

    宇宙空母ガウ

  12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/28(Wed) 07:15:56 ID：7a2c75fb5            ★コメ返信★

    そう言えばリュウは初陣で出撃したら戻って来なくてそのまま戦死扱いという雑な感じだったな

  13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/28(Wed) 09:42:27 ID：efbd0e5c2            ★コメ返信★

    計器なんて電源が切れたらただのメンコとか言ってたけど、電源切れてたらモビルスーツ動かんやろ…

  14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/28(Wed) 12:41:06 ID：37b653ca8            ★コメ返信★

    ※8
    シャアがジオン軍再編してアルテイシアが色んなしがらみから解放されて海で泳いでエンドじゃなかったか？

  15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/28(Wed) 22:42:59 ID：aa43dca90            ★コメ返信★

    ※5
    当時の現実逃避の楽園のようなオタク向け作品て何？
    あの頃って大半が未就学児童向け作品だったと思うけど

  16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/29(Thu) 03:16:37 ID：70431e2c9            ★コメ返信★

    オタク向けが始まるのは80年代からだから、79年放送のガンダムの頃はあんまりないよね
    まあ劇場版3部作まで含めたらめぐりあいが82年公開でうる星やつらのアニメが83年からだからかぶってきてはいるけど、そこまでオタク向けであふれかえってはいないよね
    （ちなみにビー・バップ・ハイスクールの連載開始は83年）

    まあ※5が読んだ小説版がソノラマじゃなくてスニーカー版で87年とかのゼータの頃かもしれんな

  17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/30(Fri) 18:36:54 ID：e78b07e36            ★コメ返信★

    下手すりゃSEED無印の方が初代アニメ本編にストーリーが近いんじゃないですかね…

    反応:※18
  18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/31(Sat) 14:57:25 ID：dc700be11            ★コメ返信★

    ※17
    そりゃ種はファーストを意図的になぞってんだから当たり前としか
    初期案ベースだったり、設定だけ渡して本編知らないまま書かせたり理由は様々だけど
    正直、大昔はアニメ本編とノベライズが一致してないことが普通だったわけで
    アニメ見て、小説版買うと大抵これじゃないを味わうという

  19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 13:09:21 ID：b0381fe3e            ★コメ返信★

    何をいまさら、だな

    当時はガンダムは１作めだけの展開だったし
    小説版、テレビアニメ、劇場版ですでにパラレルが起こり始めてた
    なにもおかしなことはない
    楽しめたもの勝ち

    読みにくいってのは認める(笑)
    そもそも小説家じゃなかったからね

    反応:※25
  20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 13:14:17 ID：b0381fe3e            ★コメ返信★

    今や角川のイメージだけど、当時は朝日ソノラマから発刊されてた
    朝日ソノラマのいわゆるSFジュブナイル枠
    当時発刊されてたソノラマ版「宇宙戦艦ヤマト」もアニメとの違いがすごいから(笑)
    その上でガンダム読んだ身としては、普通に受け入れてたな

    ヤマトは興味があれば、探して読んでみるといいよ

  21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/08/02(Mon) 13:20:10 ID：b0381fe3e            ★コメ返信★

    ※2
    その言い方に返すのであれば
    俺は小学生当時から面白いと思って読んだ
    合う合わないはいいけれど、好き嫌いだけでものを言うとそこで話は終わってしまう

  22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/08/06(Fri) 17:16:03 ID：1fbbaa664            ★コメ返信★

    ホワイトベースが地球に降りなくて、宇宙だけで話が完結するんだよな

  23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/09/23(Thu) 21:37:40 ID：7b6642fc6            ★コメ返信★

    シャアも別人だよね。富野小説らしくエンタメしてない

  24. 24. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/11/27(Sat) 22:35:44 ID：74eeb2d2a            ★コメ返信★

    「攻撃空母ガウがなぜ宇宙に？」なんて読んだ当時は混乱したなぁ

  25. 25. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/12/10(Fri) 19:29:46 ID：f98e1dab8            ★コメ返信★

    ※19
    ヤマトだって劇場版公開時はイスカンダルでの展開は今と異なってたし(テレビ放送時に差し替え)小説もやはり話が全く別物。

    なんなら松本零士の漫画も全然違うしな。　

    あとスターウォーズも1作目の公開後にその後のダースベーダーが主人公となる小説が出てたという・・・知ってる人おる？

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