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    【ギラ・ドーガ】ジオンなんだしザク◯◯とかでよかったんじゃない?



    1: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:23:59▼このレスに返信

    名前ザク何とかでよくない?
    劇中設定なんかどうにでもなるし
    2: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:25:21▼このレスに返信
    ネオジオンなんだから
    ネオザク
    5: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:26:13▼このレスに返信
    >2
    なんでその名前にしなかった
    3: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:25:53▼このレスに返信
    何十年前にタイムスリップすりゃいいんだ?
    逆シャアって30年前か?
    4: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:25:55▼このレスに返信
    34年前の富野に言え
    8: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:29:44▼このレスに返信
    シャア(キャスバル・レム・ダイクン)のジオン・ダイクン殺したザビ家を排した新生ジオンだから
    ザビ家やその後塵のハマーンの様なザクという名前は使わない
    12: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:30:59▼このレスに返信
    >8
    そんな理屈ならジオンの名前も使うなよ
    15: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:32:05▼このレスに返信
    >12
    ジオン・ダイクンの息子だし!!
    ザビ家に父ジオンの名汚されたままにしたくないし!!
    まぁ更に泥塗る息子なんですがね…
    94: 名無し 2022/09/21 19:04:49▼このレスに返信

    >8
    では何故サ"ザビ"ーなんて名を
    97: 名無し 2022/09/21 19:07:07▼このレスに返信
    >94
    そこまでいくともはや難癖揚げ足取りのレベルだろ
    28: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:35:40▼このレスに返信
    後付けでごっちゃごちゃになったけど
    ギラ・ドーガ、ヤクト・ドーガ、サイコ・ドーガと
    旧世代から一新した新体系のMSとして名付けたんだから
    昔のザクをひきずらなきゃならん意味もなかろう
    23: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:34:17▼このレスに返信
    ザクほど汎用性高くなさそう
    25: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:34:55▼このレスに返信
    >23
    ザクⅢよりよほどザクらしいといわれてるのに
    30: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:35:50▼このレスに返信

    ザクのナンバリングを持っていった機体
    49: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:43:13▼このレスに返信
    >30
    何かザクっぽさがない
    62: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:47:22▼このレスに返信
    >49
    ザク3改の進化系と考えればしっくりくる
    33: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:36:14▼このレスに返信

    直前のムーンガンダムでザクⅣを跳ねっ返りどもが運用してたから余計にこそザクの名前を使いたくなかったんだろうか
    72: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:50:59▼このレスに返信
    >33
    表向きはジオン共和国正規軍用のMSってことで量産するのにザクの名前使ったら連邦にテロ屋に売るんじゃねえかって文句言われるからやめたんだな
    75: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:52:47▼このレスに返信
    ザク系列は新型が続くのにドムやゲルググ系列はほとんど続かないな
    78: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:54:32▼このレスに返信
    >75
    ドム系はドライセンで頭打ちかな
    11: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:30:30▼このレスに返信
    禿(晩年)「名前なんかなんでもいいだろ、適当に『ザックザク』よし!採用!!」
    こんなノリされても困るだろ
    13: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:31:35▼このレスに返信
    >11
    ティンコとかイマサラで
    19: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:32:53▼このレスに返信
    ギラ・ドーガのギラってどこから?
    ドラクエ?
    34: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:36:23▼このレスに返信
    >19
    レウルーラとか割とドラクエぽいよね逆シャア
    119: 名無し 2022/09/21 19:32:05▼このレスに返信
    >19
    ヘブライ語で「喜び」を意味するギラ(גילה Gilah)に由来する女性名
    126: 名無し 2022/09/21 19:41:58▼このレスに返信
    >119
    歓びドーラさんだったのか…
    36: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:37:01▼このレスに返信
    バギ・ドーガはいる
    40: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:39:36▼このレスに返信
    >36
    そのうちメラ・ドーガとかヒャド・ドーガとかも生えてくるか?
    51: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:43:31▼このレスに返信
    >40
    メラ・ドーガはちょっと語呂が良くて好き
    57: 名無し 2022/09/21 18:44:59▼このレスに返信

    >40
    メラもいる
    95: 名無し 2022/09/21 19:06:38▼このレスに返信

    マラドーガです
    98: 名無し 2022/09/21 19:07:10▼このレスに返信
    >95
    イマサラそんな機体出してどうするんだよ
    101: 名無し 2022/09/21 19:07:59▼このレスに返信
    >95
    MSサッカーやらせたら強そう

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 06:43:56 ID:e12e1b2b4            ★コメ返信★

        シャーが演説でザビ家やハマーンをけなすような事言っていて、みんな受け入れてましたやん。
        そんなコト言いつつザクの名前を使ったらヘンじゃん?

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 06:50:27 ID:267da509c            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        今こそヅダ系列の復活の刻!

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 07:03:20 ID:d4cf221de            ★コメ返信★

        サ ザビ ー
        じゃなくて
        サザ ビー
        サザエーがあったんだよんがぐぐ

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 07:18:21 ID:57ca54b7f            ★コメ返信★

        たしかアナハイムで保有してた機体をネオ・ジオンに卸したからじゃね。
        しかもマラサイ系列。

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 08:07:03 ID:654f801a6            ★コメ返信★

        こいつゲルググも知らんのか?
        ジオンの汎用機=ザクの名前を守るなんて話作りは当時どころか今に至るまで一切無いんだけど

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 08:27:03 ID:c25b69b74            ★コメ返信★

        富野がザクどころかモノアイにも拘り無くて
        以降のガンダムでジオン系から脱却した新しいMS出して行ってるんだから当然の流れだったと思う
        逆シャアは物語上ジオン系MS出さないとマズいから名前だけでも新しい物にしたかったんじゃない?
        ジェガンがジム〇〇じゃなかったのも同じ理由だったんじゃないかと

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 11:38:38 ID:7809f1b2a            ★コメ返信★

        実際米軍の戦闘機も
        ファントム→イーグル→ラプターを
        ファントム→ファントムⅡ→ファントムⅢ
        とは呼ばないでしょ
        コンセプトは似ていても別物の機体は区別しないと

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 12:04:14 ID:dae299b63            ★コメ返信★

        逆襲のギガンテスのスザクは地味に好き

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 12:06:51 ID:b19b79157            ★コメ返信★

        ジオン公国は実質ザビ家による独裁国家だし、そのイメージは払拭したスペースノイドの真の独立を目指した(というのもやはりこの時のシャアにとっては詭弁となってしまっていたけど)新たなジオンにしたいということで、ザクにはしなかった、とか?

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 12:16:21 ID:133d04dbe            ★コメ返信★

        ここは敢えて
        「ザク・ウォーリア」で・・・
        え?縁起が悪い?こりゃまた失礼

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 13:15:08 ID:57b5a8744            ★コメ返信★

        逆に、べつにムリにザクに拘ることもあるまい?

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/22(Thu) 18:36:39 ID:267da509c            ★コメ返信★

        ドーガは固有名詞だから良い、ヤクトやサイコもなんとなくわかる、ギラが全然判らんってなる

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/09/23(Fri) 01:58:26 ID:e1f2c3e67            ★コメ返信★

        嘘乙 アナハイムだよ

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/11/29(Tue) 15:23:15 ID:305d9ab3b            ★コメ返信★

        アムロ「ギラドーガまで!」と
        呼称は知っててもどこが製造したかまでは察知できない
        ロンドベルの無能っぷり
        ジオンのモビルスーツの開発
        コロニー一基を疎開させて造ったコロニーレーザー
        エゥーゴの結成
        元々連邦の諜報能力はザルだけど

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