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    ジムってコスパや性能的にガンダムに並ぶ名機だと思う



    1: 名無し 2022/12/10 00:39:21▼このレスに返信

    ガンダムと並ぶ名機
    どの時代でも現役でどの世界にも必ず存在してる
    2: 名無し 2022/12/10 00:42:35▼このレスに返信
    そりゃね
    優れた汎用機こそが時代を作るんで
    6: 名無し 2022/12/10 00:54:57▼このレスに返信
    量産型だから他との搭乗者の腕の差が際立つ
    9: 名無し 2022/12/10 00:56:42▼このレスに返信
    >6
    そうならないようにレベルを合わせるのが軍ってもんでは?
    12: 名無し 2022/12/10 00:59:54▼このレスに返信
    >9
    腕の立つ奴は隊長格や教官に引き立てるかあるいはそいつらだけを選抜し集めた精鋭部隊を結成するか…
    16: 名無し 2022/12/10 01:04:00▼このレスに返信
    >12
    ついでに高級機(ガンダム)にのせとくか…
    10: 名無し 2022/12/10 00:58:59▼このレスに返信
    プロトタイプより量産型の方が強いし
    17: 名無し 2022/12/10 01:04:49▼このレスに返信
    >10
    ガンダムとジムはレーシングカーと市販車の関係だし
    ジオンだとプロトタイプのドムやゲルググは量産型より弱い
    23: 名無し 2022/12/10 01:09:44▼このレスに返信
    戦いは数だよ
    54: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:05:46▼このレスに返信
    >23
    数が揃わなきゃ部隊編成も運用出来ないしな
    ガンダムの世界だと戦争は個人のケンカレベルなんで単機の性能だけで優劣が決まるけど
    58: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:07:37▼このレスに返信
    >23
    ボール「だよなー」
    41: 名無し 2022/12/10 01:37:18▼このレスに返信
    1/20のコストで80%の性能を実現って考えるととんでもないな
    逆にいえばガンダムってジムの20倍のコストで1.25倍しか強くなってない
    44: 名無し 2022/12/10 01:41:41▼このレスに返信
    >41
    量産化すれば単価は下がるし
    コンパクトカーを一品物で作ると3億円超えるらしい
    101: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:57:36▼このレスに返信
    現実だと量産機>試作機
    だからな
    57: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:06:10▼このレスに返信
    20倍ってコストの大半がルナチタ装甲とコアブロック構造じゃないと説明付かんな
    59: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:08:36▼このレスに返信
    >57
    部品が試作で職人の手作り説
    一点物は時間かかるからな
    61: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:08:58▼このレスに返信
    >57
    耐熱フィルムとか
    66: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:12:36▼このレスに返信
    >61
    あの股間にしまってあるフィルムがガンダム本体より何倍も高い・・
    あると思います!
    47: 名無し 2022/12/10 01:46:35▼このレスに返信
    大規模な生産ラインに乗せて数作れば作るほど低コスト化できるのは道理だしね
    少ロット生産が一番割高になる
    49: 名無し 2022/12/10 01:48:44▼このレスに返信
    >47
    人件費とか時間は削減できるが材料費はどうなのかね
    48: 名無し 2022/12/10 01:48:22▼このレスに返信
    コアファイター機構や学習コンピューターの差もあるから
    コストに関しては単純なスペックだけの問題じゃない気もする
    130: 名無し 2022/12/10 08:36:20▼このレスに返信
    >48
    アムロの戦闘データはプライスレス過ぎるよな
    51: 名無し 2022/12/10 01:58:16▼このレスに返信
    最初の設定で見れば機能モリモリの試作機だからガンダムが高くつくのは当たり前
    だったんだけど最近はなぜかジムやガンダムもどきが先行生産されているからな・・・
    73: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:24:45▼このレスに返信

    色が変わるだけで強く見える強い
    82: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:31:36▼このレスに返信
    >73
    コロ落ちでは良い機体だが強いわけではなかった
    ザクを見かけたら三体がかりでボコにして即座に逃げたり
    タイマン避けられない時は頭バルカン撃ちながらシールドでぶん殴って体当たりで転ばせて味方のキャノンに俺ごと撃てと命令したりともう必死だったぜ
    119: 名無し 2022/12/10 06:18:30▼このレスに返信
    >82
    地上のみだから原則ビーム兵器使え無くてあんまりジオンにアドバンテージ無いんだよな
    ドム速すぎで大変困る
    121: 名無し 2022/12/10 07:04:28▼このレスに返信
    たいして改修しなくても汎用性高いの地味にすごいよな
    123: 名無し 2022/12/10 07:34:33▼このレスに返信
    >121
    海以外は大体使えるからな
    63: 名無し 2022/12/10 02:11:32▼このレスに返信
    十分強いから促成栽培でも勝てたんでしょう
    104: 名無し 2022/12/10 03:04:14▼このレスに返信
    ジムは大量配備のために完成を急いだ粗悪品で連邦兵はろくな訓練期間も無かったからな

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/12/11(Sun) 17:10:12 ID:3b2f9cf9c            ★コメ返信★

        >記事17
        「ガンダムとジムはレーシングカーと市販車の関係」
        これはちと意味が違うと思われ。何がといえば、「レーシング車両は公道を走れない」から。
        ガンダムもジムも、同じ「戦場」に立ってたんだし。
        台数でも「一部の例外を除けばワンオフのレーシングカー」と「市場規模数万台の市販車」を一緒にはできないね。むしろ、米軍で言えば「X-29等の試作ナンバー戦闘機」と「F-35やF-15等の制式採用戦闘機」と考えるのが、生産数も数千倍で丁度いいかと。

      2. 2. 名前:【水星の魔女】㈱ガンダムの看板壊したのって結局誰だったんだろう・・・? 投稿日:2022/12/11(Sun) 17:24:17 ID:f41d4f597            ★コメ返信★

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      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/12/11(Sun) 18:17:17 ID:1328e91d3            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        市販車はサーキット走れるぞ
        それにレースで培った技術が市販車にフィードバックされるもんだからやっぱり正解

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/12/11(Sun) 18:31:08 ID:8051e8825            ★コメ返信★

        「だと思う」ってお前が決める事じゃねーよ。どんだけガンダム世界に浸ってんだ。作る側の人間が気にする事であって、買うだけの人間には何の権限も無い

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/12/11(Sun) 18:56:01 ID:3e8d33b73            ★コメ返信★

        素ジムの野暮ったいデザイン好き
        カッコいいのも嫌いじゃないけどデザイン的に戦後から20年は空けて欲しい

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/12/11(Sun) 19:38:26 ID:fcd5d0aa3            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        >>レーシング車両は公道を走れない
        モナコ公国「それはない」

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/12/11(Sun) 20:41:36 ID:ccbe95d6c            ★コメ返信★

        >現実だと量産機>試作機だからな

        YF-35とスパホとどっちで戦場に出るって話になったら、スパホのがマシだわな

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2022/12/12(Mon) 07:25:23 ID:cca942da2            ★コメ返信★

        ジム・スナイパーカスタムという、ジム初期生産型を改修したやつ
        ガンダム並みとか言われてるから、市販車はきっとGTRレベルなんだよ

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        確かにトヨタのやつがクラッシュテスト用のプロトタイプカローラが1台2000万って言ってたな

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        短期間で大量に作れた高性能量産機で実績も作った機体が名機じゃないわけないだろ
        ただのチート兵器だ

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