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【ガンダム】61式戦車ってMSが飛び交う世界じゃ無かったらかなり活躍できたと思う

1: 2018/11/27 11:06:48 No.550548966 ▼このレスに返信

MSが飛び交うガンダム世界じゃ無かったらかなり活躍できたと思う

4: 2018/11/27 11:10:41 No.550549388 ▼このレスに返信

現代戦に適応するために搭載した全ての物が無駄になってるのがひどい
そりゃあ乗員も戦場にMSなんてモノ持ち込みやがってとかキレるよ

5: 2018/11/27 11:10:57 No.550549419 ▼このレスに返信

つまり61式に脚があれば？

6: 2018/11/27 11:11:07 No.550549441 ▼このレスに返信

>つまり61式に脚があれば？
手が足りない

9: 2018/11/27 11:12:59 No.550549647 ▼このレスに返信

>つまり61式に脚があれば？
ダグラムにこんなのいる

7: 2018/11/27 11:11:50 No.550549511 ▼このレスに返信

作劇の都合上なんだけどMSが現れたから通常兵器衰退したっていう理屈いやそれはおかしい

8: 2018/11/27 11:12:19 No.550549575 ▼このレスに返信

>作劇の都合上なんだけどMSが現れたから通常兵器衰退したっていう理屈いやそれはおかしい
富野作品に限って言うなら衰退はしてない

86: 2018/11/27 11:54:33 No.550554610 ▼このレスに返信

>富野作品に限って言うなら衰退はしてない
閃ハサでモビルスーツ飛ばすくらいなら飛行機で良いんだけど人間保守的なので…みたいな事地の文で言われるくらいだから相当衰退してねえかなあ

19: 2018/11/27 11:26:33 No.550551132 ▼このレスに返信

>作劇の都合上なんだけどMSが現れたから通常兵器衰退したっていう理屈いやそれはおかしい
MSの登場≒ミノフスキー粒子の発明だし旧兵器じゃどうしようもなくないか

10: 2018/11/27 11:14:51 No.550549840 ▼このレスに返信

ガンタンクでさえキャタピラは時代遅れと言われた

11: 2018/11/27 11:17:35 No.550550126 ▼このレスに返信

実際ジオンも資源や重要施設抑えたってのもあるけどそれ以上侵攻するのストップするぐらい
戦線が膠着してたんだからそれなりに対MS戦でも活躍してたはず

14: 2018/11/27 11:20:55 No.550550524 ▼このレスに返信

多分レビルがトップにならばければ連邦はそういう路線だったろうし
時間はかかるだろうけど最終的には勝ちそう

17: 2018/11/27 11:26:05 No.550551079 ▼このレスに返信

フライマンタとセイバーフィッシュがいればなんとかなる
ギレンの野望をやったから俺は詳しいんだ

26: 2018/11/27 11:30:51 No.550551674 ▼このレスに返信

MS登場後はどうのこうのはとりあえず置いといて戦車で連装砲って意味あるんだろうか
多砲塔は一瞬で廃れちゃったわけだけど

29: 2018/11/27 11:34:45 No.550552159 ▼このレスに返信

>MS登場後はどうのこうのはとりあえず置いといて戦車で連装砲って意味あるんだろうか
片方ずつ撃つと装填時間の隙がなくなる…とか？

30: 2018/11/27 11:36:42 No.550552384 ▼このレスに返信

思い返したらコアブースターが無双してるから航空機は別に廃れてないな
戦車だけダメだった

32: 2018/11/27 11:38:01 No.550552544 ▼このレスに返信

MSを作る技術で戦車作ったらもっと強いんじゃね？

35: 2018/11/27 11:39:05 No.550552680 ▼このレスに返信

>MSを作る技術で戦車作ったらもっと強いんじゃね？
それガンタンクじゃない？

38: 2018/11/27 11:39:44 No.550552750 ▼このレスに返信

ガンタンクは戦車の技術でMSじゃなかったっけ

42: 2018/11/27 11:41:06 No.550552934 ▼このレスに返信

そもそもなんでミノフスキー粒子があると戦車よりMSのが有利になるんだっけ

47: 2018/11/27 11:43:19 No.550553180 ▼このレスに返信

>そもそもなんでミノフスキー粒子があると戦車よりMSのが有利になるんだっけ
長距離攻撃できないから機動力のあるMSのほうが強い！みたいな感じ

48: 2018/11/27 11:44:15 No.550553304 ▼このレスに返信

>長距離攻撃できないから機動力のあるMSのほうが強い！みたいな感じ
ガンタンクの砲の有効射程は120kmよ

53: 2018/11/27 11:45:38 No.550553465 ▼このレスに返信

>ガンタンクの砲の有効射程は120kmよ
性能と当てられるかどうかは別問題だろう

68: 2018/11/27 11:49:31 No.550553967 ▼このレスに返信

>ガンタンクの砲の有効射程は120kmよ
固定目標への射撃ならともかく
ミノ粉散布状況ではその射程じゃないよね？

44: 2018/11/27 11:41:51 No.550553013 ▼このレスに返信

MSを作る技術で強い戦車が作れるならそりゃどんどん作るだろ
でもほとんど作られなかったつまりそういうことなんだ

142: 2018/11/27 12:05:17 No.550555948 ▼このレスに返信

爆撃機とかジオンMS相手でも割と活躍してたのに完全に消えてしまった

145: 2018/11/27 12:06:20 No.550556103 ▼このレスに返信

ガルマ君もドップで頑張ってたよな

172: 2018/11/27 12:10:03 No.550556691 ▼このレスに返信

戦闘機系は技術向上でMSが同じ飛行能力有するようになったから不要になったんだろうな

166: 2018/11/27 12:08:49 No.550556468 ▼このレスに返信

MSの下半身に砲乗っけたカエルみたいにピョンピョン跳ぶ長射程自走砲作ったらクソ強そう

178: 2018/11/27 12:10:57 No.550556836 ▼このレスに返信

>MSの下半身に砲乗っけたカエルみたいにピョンピョン跳ぶ長射程自走砲作ったらクソ強そう
ウォドムだこれ

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2連砲は照準するガンナーが死ぬ
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そういえばイグルー２でそれぞれの砲身から発射した砲弾を二両の戦車に命中させてたな
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2018/12/12(Wed) 22:07:38 ID：7c9f40e91 ★コメ返信★

現代の戦車と同じく操縦に3人必要ってならMSの方が中心になるのもわからなくはないわね
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※1,3
たしかに61式は3人乗りだけどさぁ
MSを一人で動かせる技術があるのに、何で戦車は未だに自動化がままならないのかって話

FSSの場合はファティマ1人で戦車数十台分の値段するからって設定だけどさ
（そもそも騎士でない一般兵はMHに乗れないし）
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