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    1: 無念 2019/10/11 23:17:29 No.676066731 ▼このレスに返信

    スンさん
    3: 無念 2019/10/11 23:39:52 No.676073786 ▼このレスに返信
    こいつ地球出身なのにニュータイプなの?
    5: 無念 2019/10/12 00:23:30 No.676085436 ▼このレスに返信
    シャアとの出会いは地球だけど出身地は分かってないはず
    6: 無念 2019/10/12 00:23:54 No.676085542 ▼このレスに返信
    インド出身だぞ
    きっとヨーガの神秘
    7: 無念 2019/10/12 00:25:26 No.676085967 ▼このレスに返信
    富野の小説だとサイド5のルウム出身
    8: 無念 2019/10/12 00:26:56 No.676086382 ▼このレスに返信
    ORIGINだとムンバイ
    9: 無念 2019/10/12 00:27:45 No.676086622 ▼このレスに返信
    出稼ぎの占い師
    10: 無念 2019/10/12 00:28:21 No.676086776 ▼このレスに返信
    小説版だと売春婦
    12: 無念 2019/10/12 00:39:59 No.676090027 ▼このレスに返信
    オリジンでも元娼婦なんじゃね
    13: 無念 2019/10/12 00:41:30 No.676090441 ▼このレスに返信
    オリジンだと既にNT能力利用されてる
    小説はシャアが見出す
    14: 無念 2019/10/12 00:41:36 No.676090473 ▼このレスに返信
    オリジンの方が人間味があったな
    テレビ・劇場版はちょっと怖い
    16: 無念 2019/10/12 00:43:29 No.676090992 ▼このレスに返信

    いける
    21: 無念 2019/10/12 00:57:43 No.676094306 ▼このレスに返信
    >No.676090992
    髪下ろすと褐色美人だな…
    25: 無念 2019/10/12 01:03:27 No.676095543 ▼このレスに返信
    >いける
    こっちで出て来てたら危なかった
    17: 無念 2019/10/12 00:43:48 No.676091057 ▼このレスに返信

    むちむち
    18: 無念 2019/10/12 00:52:26 No.676093166 ▼このレスに返信
    惚れた女を戦場に出すってやっぱり理解できんぞシャア!
    39: 無念 2019/10/12 02:04:36 No.676106884 ▼このレスに返信
    >惚れた女を戦場に出すってやっぱり理解できんぞシャア!
    順序が逆だ
    戦場で利用してるうちに惚れた
    ララァの方もそれは了承してる
    40: 無念 2019/10/12 02:06:44 No.676107206 ▼このレスに返信
    >ララァの方もそれは了承してる
    ダメ男に惚れる幸薄女じゃないか
    20: 無念 2019/10/12 00:56:29 No.676094026 ▼このレスに返信
    シャア最低ー
    19: 無念 2019/10/12 00:54:56 No.676093691 ▼このレスに返信
    ニュータイプの彼女を
    戦場で自慢したくはならないか?
    26: 無念 2019/10/12 01:04:16 No.676095721 ▼このレスに返信
    >ニュータイプの彼女
    ハマーン
    22: 無念 2019/10/12 00:58:05 No.676094373 ▼このレスに返信
    ニュータイプの革新を謳った革命家の息子が
    ニュータイプを初めて兵器として扱うって言うね
    27: 無念 2019/10/12 01:11:11 No.676097197 ▼このレスに返信
    >ニュータイプを初めて兵器として扱うって言うね
    シャアってよりシャリア・ブル含めてフラナガン機関やろ
    35: 無念 2019/10/12 01:31:45 No.676101232 ▼このレスに返信
    >シャアってよりシャリア・ブル含めてフラナガン機関やろ
    推薦したのはシャアじゃん
    23: 無念 2019/10/12 00:59:07 No.676094569 ▼このレスに返信
    シャアはお父さん嫌いだよね
    真性のマザコンだし
    24: 無念 2019/10/12 01:00:16 No.676094810 ▼このレスに返信
    まあダイクンが父としていい人だったかと言うとあんまりだし…
    38: 無念 2019/10/12 01:58:59 No.676106036 ▼このレスに返信
    パパの敵討ちとかダイクンの名とか捨ててララァと逃げる選択肢もあったろうに
    28: 無念 2019/10/12 01:13:21 No.676097620 ▼このレスに返信
    オリジンのシャアはジンバに叩き込まれた父親の思想のせいでオールドタイプの考えたNT感と、NTであるララァや自分の力から考えたNT感がごっちゃになって歪んでしまった
    29: 無念 2019/10/12 01:14:08 No.676097762 ▼このレスに返信
    クェスもインド行ってたな
    やはりインドには超常的な何かがあるのか

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 12:19:19 ID:775dd18a7            ★コメ返信★

        アムロも地球生まれじゃないんかね
        マッマがパッパについていかなかったんやろ?

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 14:01:24 ID:cd99fd8cc            ★コメ返信★

        宇宙住みじゃないと駄目って価値観はX位じゃね?

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 14:52:56 ID:9d1820a40            ★コメ返信★

        そうすると、ますますラプラスの箱の効力ってなくなっちゃう。

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 15:04:54 ID:049c21942            ★コメ返信★

        アムロも地球生まれ地球育ちだからねぇ、だからNTは宇宙に出て進化した人類って事自体無印で否定されているんだよなぁ。

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 15:31:07 ID:b9e9bdb9d            ★コメ返信★

        箱の中身である条文自体に力は無いと何度言えば

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 15:42:53 ID:daa468df5            ★コメ返信★

        ウッソだって地球育ちのスペシャルだし…
        宇宙に出てから能力が開花したってことなんじゃないの?

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 16:52:54 ID:5fcc0705c            ★コメ返信★

        ジオンダイクンの言うニュータイプやラプラスの言う宇宙に適した新人類と、アムロやララア等のイタコニュータイプとは違う。

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 17:12:23 ID:727f18496            ★コメ返信★

        ※7
        まあ、だからこそF91以降はサイキッカーって呼ばれることになるわけだしな。
        福井の設定のように恐怖されて封印されたわけじゃなく、ジオン主義が廃れたことでただ単にニュータイプと、マチルダさんが言うようなエスパーとの区別がはっきりしただけなんだと思う。
        今の普通の人が社会契約論とか作者が定義した単語を知らんように、UCの人だって廃れたジオニズムで語られる専門単語なんて知らんやろ。

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 17:46:48 ID:9d822c3a2            ★コメ返信★

        元々ニュータイプなんてのは曖昧なものなのに
        それを定義づけようとしている時点で間違い

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 20:53:05 ID:4e8487979            ★コメ返信★

        そもそもニュータイプって概念は宇宙で生まれ育った俺たちは特別ってスペースノイドの方便に過ぎないからな。
        そしたらモノホンの新人類がちょこちょこ現れたってだけで。

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/12(Sat) 21:36:33 ID:b4b9f1846            ★コメ返信★

        ダイクンが言うニュータイプは宇宙進出に伴う社会構造の変化に適応した精神的に成熟した今までには存在しえなかった価値観の持ち主のことであって、作中に出てくる超能力者の事じゃないんだろうな
        ただ単語として分かりやすいから突如出現した文字通りの新人類にあてがわれたって話で

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/13(Sun) 00:07:49 ID:3a9ac5930            ★コメ返信★

        「ニュータイプ=全員スペースノイド」とか壮大な勘違い乙。
        あのなぁ、天パは「地球生まれの、途中からコロニー育ち」だぞ?
        1stくらい、ちゃんと見てからスレ立てるようにしてくれw

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/13(Sun) 00:19:07 ID:1838e3d96            ★コメ返信★

        そもそもジオンのニュータイプ論は、ナチスドイツのアーリア人と同じで「俺達は優良人種!!」って言う根拠皆無のオカルト理論
        「スペースノイド(ジオン人)は優れてるから地球(サイド3以外)はソドムとゴモラみたいに焼かれるはずだ!」つって独立と戦争煽りまくって、人類の半数を虐殺しても大喜びするキチガイを生み出した
        1st以降の実在するニュータイプとは何の関係もない

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/10/13(Sun) 00:44:13 ID:f1a23b1eb            ★コメ返信★

        富野作品は作中の主張と作中で描かれる実像が一致してないから面白いよな
        NTとかブレンとかさ
        その思想が正しいとは一言も言ってない

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2019/11/30(Sat) 13:58:15 ID:0899b30a4            ★コメ返信★

        まあララァが生粋のスペースノイドだとか幼少期に何か月も宇宙空間をさまよって
        救出された時にはすっかりエスパーになってた、とかならまだ分かるんだが
        そういう前振りが全くなくていきなり言い出した感あったから
        「急にテーマらしきものをぶっ込んできやがったな」くらいにしか当時は思わなかったな。
        アムロが段階的に霊感に目覚めていくさまはハッキリしててよかったけどな。
        それにシャアが最後まで大したエスパーにならなかったのがよかった。
        エルメスで究極のNT機を出しておきながらジオングで有線に退化するという

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