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【ガンダム】ミノフスキークラフトとかドライブ周りの設定ってあんまりピンと来ないんだが・・・

1: 2020/05/02 16:40:19 No.685010532 ▼このレスに返信

ミノフスキークラフトとかドライブ周りの設定って
初代からブーストふかして地球で空間戦闘しまくりだから
あんまりピンと来ない

2: 2020/05/02 16:41:12 No.685010794 ▼このレスに返信

そもそも画像のF91からしてコロニーだから浮いてただけで飛べない

4: 2020/05/02 16:42:22 No.685011131 ▼このレスに返信

>そもそも画像のF91からしてコロニーだから浮いてただけで飛べない
サーベル振り回して飛んでたじゃん！？

7: 2020/05/02 16:43:40 No.685011503 ▼このレスに返信

シリンダーコロニー内だから遠心力を振り切る方向にバーニア吹かせば飛べる
そんな考察あった

6: 2020/05/02 16:43:35 No.685011461 ▼このレスに返信

ミノフスキークラフトは浮遊できるかどうかの差だから

8: 2020/05/02 16:44:51 No.685011867 ▼このレスに返信

Zとか地球で百式乗せて飛んでたけど
あれどう考えても推力で説明できませんよね
下にブースターついてるゲタならともかく…

9: 2020/05/02 16:45:45 No.685012148 ▼このレスに返信

ファンネルが重力下で飛んでることのほうが納得できないよ

24: 2020/05/02 17:00:44 No.685016532 ▼このレスに返信

>ファンネルが重力下で飛んでることのほうが納得できないよ
それはミサイルが飛翔するのも否定するようなもんじゃ…
ユニコーンの１話でもやってたけど推力の均衡を保てば滞空させることはできなくはないよ
そんな繊細な制御をどうやってやるんだって程度の話で
それをすごいＮＴちからとサイコミュで感覚的にできるマリーダさんはすごいだけだ

16: 2020/05/02 16:52:14 No.685014046 ▼このレスに返信

ファンネルはZZでバーニアふかして姿勢維持してる描写があったから許すよ…

10: 2020/05/02 16:45:59 No.685012216 ▼このレスに返信

おっちゃんはブースター云々ってよりどいうもこいつも跳躍力がすごい

11: 2020/05/02 16:46:57 No.685012503 ▼このレスに返信

アムロは一応ガンダムのブースターのクールタイムまで計算してたし

12: 2020/05/02 16:47:32 No.685012689 ▼このレスに返信

飛行機はジェットエンジン吹かして飛んでるけど
ミノフスキークラフトはエンジン吹かさなくても飛べるしなんなら空中に制止できる
そんな違い

14: 2020/05/02 16:51:09 No.685013731 ▼このレスに返信

クラフトはふわふわ飛べるやつで
ドライブは余剰で翼出せるって認識でいいの？

18: 2020/05/02 16:55:14 No.685014894 ▼このレスに返信

ミノフスキークラフトは浮遊のみで機動力はスラスター頼みになる
ミノフスキードライブは機動力もある
光の翼は余剰エネルギーが出てるだけで機動力には寄与していない

19: 2020/05/02 16:57:30 No.685015578 ▼このレスに返信

F91がみんな浮いてた理由は結局なんなんだ

22: 2020/05/02 17:00:09 No.685016369 ▼このレスに返信

>F91がみんな浮いてた理由は結局なんなんだ
軽くて出力があってコロニー内で重力も低いから
ファーストでも結構ピョンピョン飛んでるやつの延長

27: 2020/05/02 17:02:41 No.685017075 ▼このレスに返信

>F91がみんな浮いてた理由は結局なんなんだ
従来のでかいＭＳに比べて機体重量が軽くて推力比が滅茶苦茶優秀になったことと
そもそもエンジンが高性能になったことと
コロニー内だから高く飛べば回転の遠心力で作ってるコロニーの重力から解放されやすくなるの合わせ技だよ

20: 2020/05/02 16:58:13 No.685015804 ▼このレスに返信

ベスパのMSがプロペラ推力でタケコプターみたいに浮いてた理由も謎

23: 2020/05/02 17:00:28 No.685016458 ▼このレスに返信

>ベスパのMSがプロペラ推力でタケコプターみたいに浮いてた理由も謎
ビームローターご存じない…？

25: 2020/05/02 17:02:12 No.685016944 ▼このレスに返信

アニメで説明はないがビームローターはミノフスキークラフトの一種で
風を起こして浮いてるわけではない

29: 2020/05/02 17:03:16 No.685017235 ▼このレスに返信

MSに積めるくらいまで小型化したミノクラに別個の名前が欲しい
ミノフスキーフライトはまた別物らしいし

30: 2020/05/02 17:03:32 No.685017309 ▼このレスに返信

面倒だから妖怪ミノフスキーのしわざにしてるのに
そこを掘り進めても水源は無いぞ

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/05/02(Sat) 22:02:33 ID：57da0d866 ★コメ返信★

コロニーは構造上中央に近付くほど重力が低い(ZでもMk-IIが飛んでる)
あとF91の場合はコロニーが破損してて自転速度が低下してたのもある
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/05/03(Sun) 00:05:44 ID：82a9c833c ★コメ返信★

ゼータとF91の違いは環境だけってわけじゃないはず
単純に出力と重量の差
あんな重いもんビュンビュン飛ばしてた技術さらに磨いて
あんな軽いもんがより大出力にって進化したらそら遠慮なしに飛ぶわ
ビームローターとか燃費もいいってなら使わん手はないよね
ただミノクラ/ドラみたく慣性制御ってわけじゃないから動きに制限はあるけど
コスト差考えたらね
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2020/05/03(Sun) 03:10:39 ID：2c954db37 ★コメ返信★

>>ファンネルが重力下で飛んでることのほうが納得できないよ
>それはミサイルが飛翔するのも否定するようなもんじゃ…
ファンネルの飛び方とミサイルじゃ明らかに違うだろ。
それにミサイルってあの胴体の中はほぼ推進剤だ。
ファンネルの図体じゃ滞空時間無い。
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現代航空機の翼も似たようなもんだぞ
揚力揚力煩い奴は意味が分かって無い
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F91でサーベルグルグル演出があったけど、あれが出来るんならビームローターやれるんじゃね？（遠い目）
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初代の時点でガンダムがそこそこ飛んでるのにF91で飛び回ってる事に疑問を持つ奴がこんなに居るとは思わなかった
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