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ユニコーンガンダムのマグナムで盾を撃ったらどっちが勝つの？？

1: 名無し 2021/05/18 04:33:41▼このレスに返信

もしユニコーンガンダムのマグナムでユニコーンガンダムのシールドを撃ったら勝つのはどっちなの？

2: 名無し 2021/05/18 04:35:45▼このレスに返信

シールド
下らん質問してないで寝ろ

3: 名無し 2021/05/18 04:36:22▼このレスに返信

マグナム
下らん質問してないで寝ろ

9: 名無し 2021/05/18 04:58:27▼このレスに返信

普通に考えて自分の武器すら防げない盾持ってて何の意味があるの？

11: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:05:19▼このレスに返信

盾は投擲武器

24: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:51:30▼このレスに返信

>11
わたしガンダムハリケーンなんて知りません

26: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:53:41▼このレスに返信

>11
アベンジャーズにパクられたのは有名な話だよな

12: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:24:08▼このレスに返信

ビームマグナムもしょせんはZZのライフルレベルだからなぁ
武器としては貫通力の高いヴェスバー来るまで革命的なものはないよね

25: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:52:25▼このレスに返信

>12
ΖΖのライフルってジェネレーター内蔵じゃなかったか
それと同じレベルって凄いな

13: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:28:09▼このレスに返信

ビーム系はIフィールドで終了ですぞ

16: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:33:10▼このレスに返信

>13
最後まで見てればIFに効かない描写もしてるからな
IFとか設定知識皆無ということも考えられるが
バンシィのサーベルごり押しだって弾いてるし

19: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:39:25▼このレスに返信

>16
ネオジオングの場合はIFじゃなくてサイコフィールドじゃね？

21: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:41:55▼このレスに返信

>19
腹にあるやつはIFだよ
もちろんその気ならサイコシャードで防ぐこともたぶん出来るが

22: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:48:47▼このレスに返信

サイコフィールドってなによ

28: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:59:06▼このレスに返信

>22
サイコフレームが発生させる力場だよ

29: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:59:40▼このレスに返信

>22
ニュータイプとサイコフレームが生み出すスゲー力

15: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:32:08▼このレスに返信

バンシィのバルカンとコロニーレーザーでしか破損してないからなユニコーンのシールド

18: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:37:16▼このレスに返信

バンシィのバルカン強いんだな

20: 名無し 2021/05/18 05:41:02▼このレスに返信

>18
あのシーンはバナージ的にはデストロモードなのは不本意なのでサイコフレームも大して硬くなかったと思われる
厳密にはバルカンでは穴空いただけでビームガトリングの爆発で吹っ飛んだが正確

37: 名無し 2021/05/18 06:10:42▼このレスに返信

どっちかというとシールドの方が凄いんだよな
(ついにはファンネル化もする)

57: 名無し 2021/05/18 06:40:03▼このレスに返信

シールドにIF積んでんのにその上シールドの素材がサイコフレームという大盤振る舞い
しかも武装積んでファンネルにできる

61: 名無し 2021/05/18 06:44:36▼このレスに返信

>57
開発者としちゃ想定外の運用なのかねやっぱ

63: 名無し 2021/05/18 06:45:04▼このレスに返信

というかユニコーン自体がコロニーレーザーに耐えられるくらい頑丈

65: 名無し 2021/05/18 06:46:10▼このレスに返信

>63
それはニュータイプが覚醒状態で運用してるから
本来のスペック的には当然不可能なやつだよ

66: 名無し 2021/05/18 06:48:03▼このレスに返信

>63
リディ・バンシィ(そうやってまた俺たちを居なかったことにして…！)

68: 名無し 2021/05/18 06:49:00▼このレスに返信

>66
(あっよく片足大破する人だ)

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 10:14:06 ID：49bef805f ★コメ返信★

>記事18
バルカンが強いっていうかデストロイモードで強化されてIF発生装置部分を攻撃されたから破損したというか…
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 10:32:54 ID：51e08b395 ★コメ返信★

サイコフレームの励起状態によるんじゃない？
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 10:41:27 ID：8c187d008 ★コメ返信★

このことを矛盾と言ってじゃな…
爺も若いころ悩んだもんじゃ…

反応:※6
4. 名前:名無し投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 11:22:53 ID：4255ca1f4 ★コメ返信★

マジでオカルトパワーだな
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 11:33:00 ID：c4e4f46e4 ★コメ返信★

単純にユニコーン以降とそれ以前で設定が変わった事じゃないの？

と思ったけどビグザムとデントロでIFの機能自体違う気がしてきた、メガ粒子砲の位置的に
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 11:40:37 ID：114f86c57 ★コメ返信★

※3
元々矛は盾を貫通させるように使う武器じゃねえよ！？
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 12:17:53 ID：acf545c14 ★コメ返信★

勝手にとびまわるオカルト盾
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 12:29:27 ID：f2a7c079c ★コメ返信★

ハイメガキャノンも防いでしまいそうな盾。

反応:※15
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 12:39:03 ID：a38ea0b44 ★コメ返信★

マグナムはただのデカいビーム砲だけど、シールドはオカルトパワーだからシールドが勝つだろ
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 13:03:11 ID：a58fc97b0 ★コメ返信★

アナハイム『もうわかんねーな、コレ』
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 13:14:10 ID：d73a09bed ★コメ返信★

サイコパワー抜きでもシールドの内蔵IFでマグナムは防げるとは思うかな
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 13:34:11 ID：413422953 ★コメ返信★

無重力空間で
なんで動いてるかわからいものにそんな疑問持たれましても・・・
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 13:58:55 ID：c92e93720 ★コメ返信★

シールドファンネルの原理が理解できる頃にはターンXの手足作れるわ。
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 14:05:39 ID：a5dea680c ★コメ返信★

＞ビームマグナムもしょせんはZZのライフルレベルだからなぁ
むしろマグナムの火力を2連装で連射できるのがZZなんだが
あれの火力がどんだけぶっ飛んでるかわかんねーのか
15. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 14:31:12 ID：1c6fcb282 ★コメ返信★

※8
ハマーン「気合入れてバリア出せばキュベレイでも防げるぞ」

反応:※19
16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 17:11:06 ID：d2d911e83 ★コメ返信★

ユニコーンガンダム自体の性能とパイロットのニュータイプ能力による現象を
一緒くたにして考えるやつが後をたたないのは何故なんだろうか
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 17:18:23 ID：ccca39d5f ★コメ返信★

元がスパロボ大戦の主人公機をガンダム用に直したから、元の性能がファフナーのマークザインぐらいと言えばどんな機体か分かるだろ
18. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 17:51:19 ID：6771e3ad5 ★コメ返信★

ユニコーンのシールドはビームより物理に弱いちょっと珍しいタイプなので…とくにデストロイ時は装甲もろくにないIFジェネレータが剥き出しとか言う物理耐性もくそもない構造だからねあれ
まあ普通にマグナムは防げるんじゃね？フィールドの範囲がどの程度なのかわからんので、弾いたあとの粒子で損傷するかもしれんけど
19. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 19:16:08 ID：645b81063 ★コメ返信★

※15
でもあなたは半壊しましたよ？
20. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 21:23:23 ID：6b04a9f74 ★コメ返信★

ところでバンシイのビームサーベルを、ユニコーンの盾で防ぐシーン
シールドのIフィールドでサーベルが拡散するのは分かるけど、バンシイの腕がIフィールドの力場に干渉でもしてんのか震えてるけど
Iフィールドの原理的におかしくね?

反応:※21
21. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/18(Tue) 22:20:32 ID：fc6593a2b ★コメ返信★

>>20
ビームサーベルがメガ粒子などをIフィールドで収束させてるからサーベル同士のつばぜり合いが起こる旨が記述されているので、Iフィールドで逃がそうとしてるシールドの発生源にビームサーベルを出し続けてれば、近距離で壁に高圧洗浄機を当てて圧の弱い方向に逃げようとする感じになるんじゃない？
22. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/19(Wed) 00:05:07 ID：cecf4e0f9 ★コメ返信★

原理云々以前にIフィールドデバイスをあそこまで小型化してんのがまずおかしい
IフィールドってフルアーマーZZやEx-Sレベルの出力でも機体前面に短時間しか展開できないのに
技術の進んだUC時代でも大型MSのクシャトリヤにようやく搭載できる代物やん
ユニコーンの盾の裏にデカいジェネレータがくっ付いてるわけでもないし、仮にIフィールドを展開できたとしても稼働時間も防御力も優れているとは思えん
23. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/19(Wed) 00:07:12 ID：fb93433df ★コメ返信★

そもそもマグナムって何よw

反応:※25 ※27
24. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/19(Wed) 08:36:04 ID：8a0ac4f64 ★コメ返信★

ウィキペディア先生によるとマグナム（Magnum）とは、同一口径の平均的な実包と比較して装薬量を増やした弾薬、およびそれらを使用する銃器の名称ならびに商標である。酒類の増量ボトルを指す「マグナム」を語源としている。

元々はライフル弾だけどそれを射てる拳銃の方がロマンの観点から知名度は高いけど、実用性の観点からはデメリットしかない代物だからな。

ビームマグナムの場合はがマグナム弾のようにサイズ対するエネルギー容量に優れた専用のEパックを使用し高出力化したビームライフルのことを指すということで。
25. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/19(Wed) 09:08:07 ID：b298d600f ★コメ返信★

※23
対レーダーミサイル撃つ時のコールサイン
26. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/19(Wed) 15:15:52 ID：7ebc4c39e ★コメ返信★

そもそもバンシィってそんなに硬く無かったよな
27. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/19(Wed) 23:21:40 ID：22a1dc92b ★コメ返信★

※23
マグナム北斗は、自身の巨根にちなんで。
28. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/05/23(Sun) 10:05:31 ID：49247f3d5 ★コメ返信★

これ以上クロボンX3のアイデンティティを奪わないでほしい
29. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/13(Sun) 23:30:06 ID：0d7daabe0 ★コメ返信★

シールド　＜　ビームマグナム　＜　アスファルト
30. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/17(Thu) 18:52:53 ID：f1df11803 ★コメ返信★

盾はオカルトパワーでコロニーレーザー防ぐほど硬くなるけど
マグナムはコロニーレーザー撃てるほど強くならない
31. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/05(Mon) 07:25:39 ID：66b3220ec ★コメ返信★

公式設定ではないが、モビルスーツアーカイブによると、シールドファンネルの原理は、Iフィールドジェネレーターによるミノフスキークラフトみたいなものらしいぞ。稼働時間は極端に短いらしい。
32. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/07/06(Tue) 02:08:04 ID：66d0daa2c ★コメ返信★

推進材積んでないんだろあのシールド
なんで動いてんのかよくわかんないとかヤバイやろ
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小説版でシールドをファンネルにして浮かした状態でシールドの裏側から撃ってシールドぶち壊れてる
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