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    1: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:11:51▼このレスに返信

    ガルマってシャアに謀殺されなかったら生き残れたかな
    2: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:13:31▼このレスに返信
    軍事よりは政治家向きだったとは思う
    38: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:37:19▼このレスに返信
    >2
    大衆人気はザビ家で一番あるだろうし謀略よりそっち方面の方が向いてるよね
    3: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:16:22▼このレスに返信
    ギレンやキシリアよりは脇が甘くて群がる人間は多かっただろうな
    4: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:17:46▼このレスに返信
    イケメンなのは政治家として強みだな
    5: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:17:51▼このレスに返信
    前線出たがりだからシャアがいなくてもそのうち死んでそうではある
    65: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:48:35▼このレスに返信
    >5
    前線出たがってたのは結婚許してもらうために分かりやすい功績欲しかったからじゃなかったか？
    8: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:20:59▼このレスに返信
    個人の力量としてはどうなのかな画像の評も完全に身内贔屓のそれだろうし
    ザビ家フィルター抜きで確実に評価できるのってルックスもイケメンだくらいしかない
    9: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:21:13▼このレスに返信
    まあいずれはって言ってる通り将来性込み込みでの評価だろうからなぁ
    10: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:22:30▼このレスに返信
    ガルマに関してはオヤジの
    「学者にしておけばよかった」の評がすべてだと思う
    職業軍人はどうあがいても…
    12: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:27:04▼このレスに返信
    御曹子と言えど一皮剥ける目だってあるし
    甘ちゃんままでだってザビ家フォローがあればそれなりに活躍出来たのかもしれない
    大将軍は疑問
    14: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:28:25▼このレスに返信
    ギレンみたいになれるとはどう考えても思えないし本人もなりたくないだろう
    62: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:46:16▼このレスに返信
    人類の革新とか地球クリーン作戦とかワケ分からんこと言わないってだけでもう有能
    15: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:29:24▼このレスに返信
    オリジンだと欠点の方が盛られたけどそれでも尚慕われてはいるんだよね
    24: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:31:04▼このレスに返信
    >15
    なんか無能属性ついてて逆に家族からの愛されっぷりは凄まじかったね
    武装蹶起したのにドズルが責任取ったし
    51: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:41:12▼このレスに返信
    TV版だと度胸もあるし結構イケそうだけどオリジン版はお坊ちゃま補正強過ぎてなんか駄目そう
    55: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:43:39▼このレスに返信
    >51
    面白いしシャアが見下すのもわかるキャラ付けだけど
    さすがに露骨に感じたな…劇場版との整合性考えればこうするべきだとは思うが
    52: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:41:22▼このレスに返信
    ただファーストでもオリジンでもお坊ちゃんらしい詰めの甘さが描かれてるわけで政治家も軍人も一人じゃ無理だろうね
    それこそシャアの表の顔みたいな有能な腹心がいれば…
    36: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:36:33▼このレスに返信
    つまりガル魔とシャアが組めば最強ってことじゃん
    41: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:38:05▼このレスに返信
    >36
    実際ガルマが政治で前に出てシャアが支えていくコンビならどこの派閥にも負け無さそうではある
    39: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:37:55▼このレスに返信
    シャアも心から友人と思ってたけど殺意も心から持ってたのが悲しい
    47: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:39:56▼このレスに返信
    >39
    見下してはいるけどいい友人だったはまず間違いなく本音だったしな
    22: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:30:51▼このレスに返信
    シャアが本当の友人になってくれたら
    32: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:35:40▼このレスに返信
    シャアに謀殺されなくてもジオン北米方面軍はキャリフォルニアで壊滅するし
    このお坊ちゃんは配下見捨てて自分だけ宇宙に逃げる様なタイプでは無いから多分死んでる
    連邦の捕虜になればどうなるかは分からんけど多分戦後に裁判で死刑食らうと思う
    69: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:50:01▼このレスに返信
    ガルマはどのルートでもそのうち暗殺さそうな気がする
    74: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:51:54▼このレスに返信
    >69
    キシリアが実権握ったらちょっとまずいけど
    ギレンのままなら真っ向から敵対するでもなければ狙われないと思うけどね
    25: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:31:47▼このレスに返信
    あとガルマが存命なだけでザビ家の仲がギリギリ保たれるから居る場合と居ない場合の差がひどい
    26: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:32:20▼このレスに返信
    >25
    シャアじゃなくても真っ先に狙われるやつだ…
    21: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:30:47▼このレスに返信
    才能は間違いなくある方なんだがザビ家ってだけで詰んでたまである
    70: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:50:08▼このレスに返信
    ガルマ生き残るだけで宇宙世紀かなり変わるよね…
    72: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:50:43▼このレスに返信
    ガルマ生き残るとまず地球側とジオンの政治的橋渡しが成功するからな
    85: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:54:58▼このレスに返信
    人から愛される才能みたいなのがずば抜けてるから色々権力争いしてる連中には厄介な存在だろうなガルマ
    16: 名無し 2021/07/09 20:29:31▼このレスに返信
    顔が良くて人に好かれるぼっちゃんが軍人なんてやるもんじゃないよ
    他の道があった

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/10(Sat) 09:23:23 ID：edc19265f            ★コメ返信★

        ガルマが生きようが死のうがGM量産化で本拠地ジャブローに近い北米は連邦の大攻勢に曝される歴史は変わらない
        安全を考慮してジオン本国が北米軍司令官から別部署に転属を通達されるだろうが婚約者のイセリナをニューヤークに置き捨てるとは考え難い
        結局、連邦の大攻勢で玉砕しそう

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/10(Sat) 09:40:07 ID：f0707e56c            ★コメ返信★

        ドズルの発言はただの身内贔屓で
        ぶっちゃけ本編じゃ無能だしなこいつ
        ニューヤーク市長が面従腹背やってる事にも気づいてないし
        シャアには徹底的にバカにされてるし
        本人が前線出たい出た～いという気質な限り遅かれ早かれ死んでそう

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/10(Sat) 09:52:47 ID：106262cd3            ★コメ返信★

        でも一応占領下とはいえ堂々とパーティやれるくらいには反感買ってなくて媚売られたり明らかに反対派呼べたりするくらいには政治手腕はあるはずなんだよな
        軍人としては戦闘機パイロットとしての腕はいいだろうけど生き残れるかは…

        反応:※6
      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/10(Sat) 15:15:00 ID：bd63721b4            ★コメ返信★

        オリジンの方だと生きてれば劉備みたいになったのかもなって印象だったな
        カリスマだけはあるダメなやつなので周りが有能揃いになる感じ
        兄弟で争うザビ家で唯一まとめられる存在というか

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        軍功に焦ってるしチャンスと見れば周囲がよく見えなくなるから終戦までに普通に戦死すると思う
        将来才能を開花させるとしても2年や3年じゃ難しいだろう

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        ※3
        それで凄いのはガルマじゃなく
        面従腹背で通してるニューヤークの市長だろ

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        ガルマをイケメン言うけど目つきとか見ると後年ギレン顔になりそうでなぁ…

        反応:※8
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        ※7
        初登場時はかなりキツめに描かれててはっきり悪役ポジションなのが分かるようになってたな
        死んだ後の遺影は少し柔らかめの顔つきで描かれてる

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        ガルマは自分の力を過信しすぎた
        ザビ家の威光頼りの若造だと気づかなかったのが不幸
        「ザビ家の威光があれば何だって出来る」と割り切った上で、自分の理想を追えば化けたかもしれない

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