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    【ガンダムSEED】素のガンダムにナイフだけってもうちょいマシなの無かったのかな



    1: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:44:18▼このレスに返信

    アーマーシュナイダーって割と便利なナイフだけど
    もうちょいマシな武器内蔵できなかったのか
    2: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:45:39▼このレスに返信
    貴重なエネルギー使わずに済むけどパイロットの技量が求められるよな
    3: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:47:59▼このレスに返信
    サーベル→電力足りねえ
    内蔵火器→バルカンあるし…
    ってなると仕込みナイフか拳銃かくらいに行き着くのか
    5: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:51:06▼このレスに返信
    かといって日本刀が初期装備だったらやりすぎだろ
    4: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:49:38▼このレスに返信
    やっぱハンマーだよな
    10: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:52:44▼このレスに返信
    籠手にクローとかでいいんじゃないか
    70: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:20:25▼このレスに返信
    人間だってサブウェポンにナイフが鉄板なんだしMSで採用されてても不思議はない
    あとは拳銃みたいなのがあっても良かったかもくらいか
    97: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:25:50▼このレスに返信
    >70
    イーゲルシュテルン！
    13: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:55:11▼このレスに返信
    あのインパルス君もパクった
    69: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:19:51▼このレスに返信
    >13
    OPとゲルズゲー以外で使った記憶がないわ
    47: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:10:26▼このレスに返信
    種といえばアーマーシュナイダーぐらいの認識ではある
    49: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:11:25▼このレスに返信
    虎戦でよくナイフ片手にラゴゥに突っ込んでいったよな
    59: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:17:08▼このレスに返信
    これでぶっ刺されたグーンが水中で圧壊したシーンをよく覚えてる
    86: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:24:00▼このレスに返信
    准将が触る前のOSでこれ使える気がしない
    89: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:25:01▼このレスに返信
    >86
    ナチュラル仕様のもったりとした挙動でこの武装とか何考えてたんだ開発者はってなる
    106: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:27:09▼このレスに返信
    >89
    そのあたりは乱れ桜の教え子の腕で補うはずだったんだ
    108: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:27:19▼このレスに返信
    そもそも初めて作ったMSだからあんま複雑なことできないよね
    妙な変形機が隣にいるけど
    115: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:28:28▼このレスに返信
    >108
    あれはむしろ複雑な変形に挑戦しよう！みたいな印象を受ける
    引き継がれなかったってことは駄目だったんだろうけど
    66: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:19:08▼このレスに返信
    初期Gはいろいろ試しに積んでみた感じなんだろうけどこれは大成功だった
    24: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:59:18▼このレスに返信
    緊急用みたいな武器だろうしこんなん使う状況になってるのがまずいって話ではある
    20: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:58:17▼このレスに返信
    まあマジでやばい時にしか使わない想定だろうし十分だよなって…
    31: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:03:15▼このレスに返信
    武器はコレだけか！？になったら大概の人はとりあえず装備して逃げに徹したくなる
    25: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:59:57▼このレスに返信
    本来PS装甲で相手の攻撃無効化しながら殴りかかれるしリーチの短さは問題ない
    85: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:23:38▼このレスに返信
    これが必要になる距離ならサーベル使えばいいわけだしメインで使うことは想定してねえよな
    26: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:01:15▼このレスに返信
    まあPS持ちのガンダム同士で殴り合う事は想定してないだろうし…
    29: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:02:36▼このレスに返信
    >26
    バスターはそういう事も考えられてそうな気はするんだよなあの組み換え武装
    52: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:13:49▼このレスに返信
    本来GAT-Xシリーズは五機あったし一機のみで大量のMSや他のGAT-X機とやりあう想定とかあまりされてないと思うしな…
    33: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:03:55▼このレスに返信
    こういう装備使わざるを得ない時点でエネルギーカツカツだし下手に長モノ持たせても重さかさばるし…
    27: 名無し 2021/07/24 13:01:45▼このレスに返信
    間合いさえ詰められれば奇襲用としては十分な気はする
    8: 名無し 2021/07/24 12:51:58▼このレスに返信
    結果的に積んどいて大正解だったからヨシ

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 20:06:19 ID：060e623ae            ★コメ返信★

        エネルギーが無い時にエネルギーが必要な武器渡されても困るでしょ

        反応:※9
      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 20:13:53 ID：f9ec7962c            ★コメ返信★

        ライナーロック式っぽいナイフで格闘戦したらアカンやろ、ましてや『アーマーシュナイダー=装甲切り裂く』とかいう名前は言い過ぎやろ…

        って、思ってたけど准将ったら、装甲の無い首筋と脇にナイフ叩き込んどったわ

        普通、生身でもここまで出来んやろ強過ぎやで

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 20:19:49 ID：243c89b7e            ★コメ返信★

        そもそもまだ戦場に出すのは先の予定だったし

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 20:28:51 ID：fc8a80367            ★コメ返信★

        炸薬式のジンみたいな普通マシンガン一丁くらいらあって良かった気はするな
        頭部バルカンはあるっちゃあるけど

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 20:59:37 ID：9f60321db            ★コメ返信★

        ザフトはこいつ盗めなかったけど、ある意味では運が良いよな
        換装用の施設がないザフトにいても大したこと出来ないし、空いたスペースにジン増やした方が役には立つ

        反応:※11
      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 21:09:07 ID：11332a875            ★コメ返信★

        そういえば、でっち上げストライカーとしてキャバリアー0辺りがあってもいい気がするんだけど、聞いた覚えがないなぁ…私が知らないだけなのか、ストライク用にでっち上げるのが大変なのか…まぁ「自分で作ってみろ」と言われたら苦労しそうだもんな

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 21:17:10 ID：574465d44            ★コメ返信★

        そのナイフすらないライゴウ君をdisってるの？

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 21:25:08 ID：a8c5d61cb            ★コメ返信★

        なんかしら背負ってるのがデフォなんでしょう

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 22:09:55 ID：5305b8218            ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        そもそもストライクがパック無しで出撃する事自体がイレギュラーだしな
        パックもバッテリーも切れた時の最後の手段になる携行武器が省エネアーマーシュナイダーだから効率は良い

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 22:32:22 ID：3042a70c5            ★コメ返信★

        >記事5
        日本刀が初期装備のガンダム…、ミラージュかな？

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/25(Sun) 23:11:05 ID：121b401cf            ★コメ返信★

        ※5
        そん時は多分ザフト製ストライカーパックを独自に作りそう。ただ戦況に応じて取り換えるタイプじゃなくてアサルトシュラウドみたいに取っ付けたらそのままタイプになりそう。

        反応:※14
      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/26(Mon) 01:16:32 ID：658db6e52            ★コメ返信★

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      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/26(Mon) 07:43:59 ID：93a160f27            ★コメ返信★

        ドラグナー１『ボクはレーザーソードも持ってますから・・・』

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/26(Mon) 07:45:50 ID：93a160f27            ★コメ返信★

        ※11
        まあ、外伝でテスタメントとか作ってるしな。
        独自企画でなくてちゃんと純正ストライカーパック対応の。

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/26(Mon) 07:59:11 ID：cf3d1bd0e            ★コメ返信★

        結果的に大活躍だったしこれ以上の答えはなかったとすら思う

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/26(Mon) 09:17:48 ID：348d5f132            ★コメ返信★

        デュエルで標準装備だったライフル、サーベル、シールドが全部エールに合併されてるんだからストライカー無しのまま戦うことは想定してないでしょ

        空いたスペースに収まるエネルギー消費しない武器としてナイフは別におかしくない

        反応:※19
      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/26(Mon) 09:31:06 ID：7995402c3            ★コメ返信★

        イージスの変形って変態ではあるけどギミック的にはシンプルだよ
        まぁ二次元の嘘があるから立体化の時に大変だけど、それは手足のサイズ差のせいだし

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/26(Mon) 16:25:15 ID：c8da1a660            ★コメ返信★

        取り敢えずアーマーシュナイダーだけで敵とやり合う為には、歴代バイオハザードシリーズを被弾ゼロでナイフクリア出来る位の技量が最低限必要、って事位は分かるわ。

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/26(Mon) 16:56:34 ID：55522c90d            ★コメ返信★

        ※16
        そもそもエール以外のI.W.S.P.やガンバレルやオオトリでも標準装備ライフルとシールド使ってるし
        ストライカー固有の武器の為に外すとかでもなきゃ常に標準装備みたいなもんだしね

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2021/07/26(Mon) 18:22:45 ID：b50e33bbb            ★コメ返信★

        劾のブルーフレームは対ビームコーティングされたナイフだったけどストライクやインパルスはどうなんだろう
        まああんなリーチ短い上に使いにくい装備でビームに対抗できます！ってやられても普通のパイロットからすればギャグにしかならないし通常の刃なのかな

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