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    【MSイグルー】ヅダの扱いっていくらなんでも不遇過ぎでは？



    1: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:07:37▼このレスに返信

    ヅダ不遇過ぎ問題
    いくら売れないからって
    10: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:15:41▼このレスに返信
    まあ不当に下げられすぎだと思う
    後の技術で時間があったらちゃんとしたヅダ作れたでしょ
    17: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:19:12▼このレスに返信
    >10
    作中でもちゃんと安定性はそのままにエンジンを新型にして強化している
    31: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:23:31▼このレスに返信
    >17
    うん…うん？
    44: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:30:57▼このレスに返信

    >17
    解説本によってはそこも疑われて信用がない…
    15: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:17:50▼このレスに返信
    だってザクと比べてお高いしリミッター外しちゃったら大変なことになるし…
    80: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:55:58▼このレスに返信
    ワシヤ程度の腕があれば充分ザク以上の戦果は出せる定期
    コストは見ないものとする
    83: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:56:47▼このレスに返信
    そんな腕のある奴爆発する危険のある機体に乗せたく無い
    21: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:20:14▼このレスに返信
    まあ企業としては限界超えたら爆発する機械より
    リミッター設けられてて基本動作では爆発しない機械の方を選ぶよね…
    90: 名無し 2022/05/25 12:01:51▼このレスに返信
    ガンダムオンラインでよく自爆で拠点ダメージ稼いでた
    101: 名無し 2022/05/25 12:06:48▼このレスに返信
    >90
    人の心はないんか
    30: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:22:39▼このレスに返信
    リミッター付ければちゃんと運用できるから工作やめろ！
    なお性能
    33: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:23:49▼このレスに返信
    >30
    実は敵に撃墜されたことがないというレア実績持ちでもある
    35: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:24:37▼このレスに返信

    新型です
    36: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:25:14▼このレスに返信
    >35
    嫌がらせかな？
    47: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:31:22▼このレスに返信
    >36
    ヅダとギャングリーガーの合いの子だから…
    37: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:25:18▼このレスに返信
    ヅダに対抗してコンセプト引き継いで作られた高機動型ザクも
    結局後のツィマット社の傑作リックドムに総合力で劣るって評価だから
    つまるところヅダって思想そのものが…
    38: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:26:51▼このレスに返信
    >37
    それ少佐がいるところで言ったらダメだよ
    41: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:30:29▼このレスに返信
    何回か改修したりバリエーション機もあるらしいけど
    エンジン周りの欠陥も引き継いでるの？
    49: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:32:16▼このレスに返信
    >41
    いやエンジンには欠陥はないんだ
    フレームが高速の負荷に耐えられなくて異常振動起こして分解する
    何でブレーキが利かないのかはよくわからん
    57: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:38:43▼このレスに返信
    >49
    なんか知らんがエンジンとフレームが致命的に相性悪いという事例は現実にもあるから…
    65: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:46:44▼このレスに返信
    >49
    エンジンじゃなくフレームが大問題ならやっぱりヅダという機体自体が欠陥機じゃないですか
    66: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:47:37▼このレスに返信
    >65
    だからフレームを再設計してもっと強固に頑強に…
    ドム出来た！！
    39: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:29:28▼このレスに返信
    ツィマットとかいう用途を限定するといい機体作るのに次期主力機コンペに出ると毎度大暴投する会社
    43: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:30:47▼このレスに返信
    >39
    なんか凄くアナハイムスピリッツを感じるんだよな
    78: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:55:45▼このレスに返信
    エンジンを全開にすると切れなくなるという仕様を外部機関に試験させる時にすら治してないのは頭悪すぎると思うの
    91: 名無し 2022/05/25 12:02:23▼このレスに返信
    >78
    実はちゃんとリミッターが設けられていたのだが
    とある人が「なんだこれは！？これではヅダの能力が最大限発揮できないではないか！さてはジオニッ（以下略」
    ってことで取り外されてしまったという説が
    93: 名無し 2022/05/25 12:03:03▼このレスに返信
    実際にパイロットが爆死した直後なのに「そうかまた奴らか！」とか言い出す少佐怖すぎん？
    94: 名無し 2022/05/25 12:03:06▼このレスに返信
    友人爆死したワシヤは少佐殴っても良い
    96: 名無し 2022/05/25 12:04:08▼このレスに返信
    一応気をつければ防げる欠陥なのに黙ってた少佐クズすぎない？
    63: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:44:29▼このレスに返信
    そもそもヅダの欠点全部改良したらリックドムになるんで
    リックドム開発が終った時点でヅダの役割なんか終わっているんだ
    67: 名無し 2022/05/25 11:47:37▼このレスに返信
    >63
    でもリックドムってヅダほど軽快そうには見えないんだよなぁ
    124: 名無し 2022/05/25 12:16:50▼このレスに返信
    ジオニック「ヅダくんすごいねぇ。あれくらいの性能ザクでも出したいねぇ」
    ツィマッド「ザクくんすごいねぇ。あれくらいの安定感あるドムってやつ作ろうねぇ」
    デュバル「ヅダが敗北したのではない！！！！！！！」
    130: 名無し 2022/05/25 12:18:41▼このレスに返信
    >124
    ジオニック＆ツィマッド「一緒にゲルググ作ろうね」

    機体雑談 ネタ雑談 MS IGLOO

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 15:18:26 ID：d5178aa50            ★コメ返信★

        爆発シーンがちゃんと映像化されてる分、他の試験中に爆発した設定のモビルスーツ(グフH型とか)よりだいぶマシ。

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 15:43:41 ID：b4a867046            ★コメ返信★

        いわく付きのMSの中では事故の知名度高いのでセーフ。

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 16:38:51 ID：5226c93c2            ★コメ返信★

        >記事91
        後の作品で似たような事した奴がいるな。

        リミッターでシステムダウンするとか欠陥じゃないですか。システムダウンしないで発動し続ける完璧な機体。デュビアスアルケーです。

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 16:51:57 ID：5c362b5c5            ★コメ返信★

        ヅダってイグルー用の新規デザインだったのか
        ずっと昔にMSVかなんかで見たことあったような気がしたんだがなー

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 17:38:30 ID：a05602da8            ★コメ返信★

        ヅダの欠陥直しました
        と言ってもその頃にはリックドムでもレア物だけど高機動ザクでもあるしなあって

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 19:07:34 ID：94b111f3d            ★コメ返信★

        何が酷いってジオニックとツィマッドが仲悪いって言っているのが少佐だけってこと
        むしろ両者が仲いいって設定の方があるくらい
        イグルーの製作者が意図して見せたのかそれとも両社が仲いい設定知らんかったのかわからないが上手い具合に少佐の頭がイカれた感じを出せているので結果オーライだが

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 19:32:39 ID：4a0f6c0bf            ★コメ返信★

        トールギス「エイイッ、貧弱貧弱ゥ！！」

        反応:※10
      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 19:35:54 ID：afb31c879            ★コメ返信★

        戦闘機だって、一定速度を超えて旋回すると自壊するのは普通だし、
        エンジン全開のまま一定時間で焼き付くのも普通
        マニュアルでなんとか出来る事案といえる
        エンジン全開から戻せないのが一番の欠陥だと思う

        反応:※14
      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 19:53:19 ID：492ef5e6b            ★コメ返信★

        後の技術でわざわざヅダ作る意味ねえんだわ

        反応:※11
      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 20:10:24 ID：efc4a6a0d            ★コメ返信★

        ※7
        機体には傷一つついてないのに乗ってたオットーは死ぬという殺人マシンだからな…
        まあ、怪我で体調不良なのに思いっきり突っ込んでいったオットーも悪いんだが

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 20:12:26 ID：efc4a6a0d            ★コメ返信★

        ※9
        ザクはⅡにバージョンアップした上にどんどん改良されたりバリエーション増やしてるのにヅダはねえ…
        改良型同士で比較するならアクトザクと勝負したらええねん

        反応:※12
      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/25(Wed) 20:49:15 ID：76789ffcc            ★コメ返信★

        ※11
        ちょっとした改良で大気圏内外で使えるという汎用性の高さが国力の低いジオンにとってデカすぎる

        反応:※13
      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/26(Thu) 01:34:56 ID：18c62dcd7            ★コメ返信★

        ※12
        使えるのと戦えるのは違う
        ザクでもFどころかCでも地上に降ろせば使えた
        本当の意味で
        地上専用機に互角な汎用機はグリプス戦役の年まで待たないと

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/26(Thu) 05:01:46 ID：7cae6919f            ★コメ返信★

        ※8
        問題は自壊すること自体じゃなくて、自壊することがわかってても勝手にエンジンが動き続けることなんよ

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/26(Thu) 08:16:59 ID：37accb233            ★コメ返信★

        ヅダはスペックだけならR型ザクを上回るんだよな
        そのR型ザクもザクの利点である汎用性や整備性、コスパガン無視した代物だから

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/05/31(Tue) 17:28:44 ID：107673917            ★コメ返信★

        >記事35
        このヅダは自爆らしい自爆もせず
        ライバルのフルアーマーガンダムを庇って
        機体の命を全うしたきれいなヅダだから

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/06/29(Wed) 18:03:55 ID：cba7cb45f            ★コメ返信★

        >記事10
        不採用が決定してる機体を改良するのなんて、時間とマンパワーの無駄だからな

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/07/16(Sat) 07:08:18 ID：4844e3b7e            ★コメ返信★

        出自から盛られすぎてるから頑張って落としてるだけ定期

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