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    1: 名無し 2020/09/03 19:51:58▼このレスに返信

    結果的に原作以上になるブーメラン発言いいよね…
    2: 名無し 2020/09/03 19:53:26▼このレスに返信
    まぁ結局のところジオンというだけでこれっぽっちも対局見えてないからな…
    3: 名無し 2020/09/03 19:53:45▼このレスに返信
    大局的にものを見れてたら禿の下でなんか働いてないからな…
    15: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:01:42▼このレスに返信
    >3
    仕方ないだろアナベル・ガトー22才大卒だぞ当時
    4: 名無し 2020/09/03 19:54:34▼このレスに返信
    この時点ではこいつなりの大局観があったんじゃねえの
    6: 名無し 2020/09/03 19:55:41▼このレスに返信
    >4
    観艦式で連邦の艦隊を一網打尽→コロニー落としできた!
    ってあやふやすぎる計画だし…
    74: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:18:58▼このレスに返信
    >6
    作中でも全体戦の戦訓を生かした見事なコロニー落としだって言ってるし…
    5: 名無し 2020/09/03 19:55:20▼このレスに返信
    そもそもこのおっさん自分の目では殆ど見てないよね
    7: 名無し 2020/09/03 19:56:29▼このレスに返信
    だってハゲがあんなに視界狭いとは思ってなかったし…
    8: 名無し 2020/09/03 19:57:34▼このレスに返信
    前線で戦うだけの兵隊じゃなあ
    シャアくらいの大局観が欲しい
    19: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:03:33▼このレスに返信
    >8
    あいつは大局観かなり凄いし名声も血筋も政治手腕も才能あるけど前線で戦う兵士でいたかったタイプという…
    12: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:00:19▼このレスに返信

    漫画版だと一瞬素になるくらい本気で呆れてた

    13: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:00:40▼このレスに返信
    漫画もハイ!
    ハイじゃないが!?
    ってやりとりあるの?
    14: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:01:27▼このレスに返信
    漫画だとガトーが綻んできたところでコウの肚が据わってるのがひどい
    16: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:01:42▼このレスに返信
    ア・バオア・クーで死んでた方がマシだったなんて想像も出来なかった頃
    20: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:03:51▼このレスに返信
    まあ所詮ガトーも25やそこらの若造だから…
    25: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:05:45▼このレスに返信
    >20
    ウラキと年大して変わらないじゃん…
    27: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:06:36▼このレスに返信
    対局的に物を見てる(であろう)ハゲの下にいる自分の方がなんとなく兵隊やっている相手より上だという確信があった
    あったはずなんだ
    28: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:07:53▼このレスに返信
    実際ハゲの視点は他と違ったし凄かったよ
    ハゲの視点理解してる人はハゲの周りにいなかっただけで
    29: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:09:08▼このレスに返信
    >28
    ジャミトフは理解してたよ
    30: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:09:12▼このレスに返信
    >28
    なのでジオンに裏切られ続けた現実主義者のシーマはキレた
    37: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:12:16▼このレスに返信
    ハゲは大局的に物をみてるよ
    行動が大局的に物をみれてないだけで
    43: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:13:08▼このレスに返信
    >37
    対局的に物事みた上で狂信者ムーブするのがあのハゲ
    39: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:12:34▼このレスに返信

    作戦成功しそうなんだろ?笑えよガトー

    41: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:12:58▼このレスに返信
    なんにせよまだまだ底じゃないからもっと失意の中で逮捕されて欲しい
    51: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:15:47▼このレスに返信
    >41
    はい…コウ・ウラキ…アナベル・ガトーを法廷の場へ引きずり込みます…
    65: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:17:56▼このレスに返信
    >51
    ハゲも連行できたら最高だったんだがなぁ…
    58: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:16:55▼このレスに返信
    コウに腐った連邦うんぬん偉そうなことを言ってたけど自分の陣営くらい客観視しろよとは思う
    コイツらの言うジオンって何だったんだ
    60: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:17:12▼このレスに返信
    >58
    ザビ家残党
    62: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:17:34▼このレスに返信
    >58
    アンチ地球連邦
    96: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:22:18▼このレスに返信
    つまり連邦に勝ってジオン再興したいってのじゃなくて
    ジオンの後継を名乗る者が次々と現れては反旗翻していくような時代にして連邦に延々と嫌がらせして苦しめてくのが目標だったの?
    103: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:23:08▼このレスに返信
    >96
    連邦というかコロニーの利権を地球がなぁなぁで取り込んでいくのを阻止したい
    元々ジオンはそういう連中
    117: 名無し 2020/09/03 20:24:56▼このレスに返信
    >103
    その気持ちと何とかしようって行動起こすのは立派だと思う
    その手段がダメ過ぎた

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/03(Thu) 22:54:16 ID:e86cc0f2b            ★コメ返信★

        スレ画のガトーの顔が酷い

      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/03(Thu) 22:56:15 ID:1601fa97b            ★コメ返信★

        ウラキの「はい」って返事は敵とはいえ教科書に載ってる様な凄い奴がアドバイスを言ってくれたミーハーな感じあって好き
        でも対峙する度にメッキ剥がれてるの判っちゃうから自分でもなんとか出来そうって自信付いてくるのはわかる

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/03(Thu) 23:33:47 ID:1dd7f0f9d            ★コメ返信★

        声がシブいおっさんだから誤魔化されるけど
        若造だからな

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/03(Thu) 23:39:48 ID:8988504df            ★コメ返信★

        ジオン残党ってジオン国民にとってはますます肩身が狭くなる厄介者集団だよな。
        ジオン共和国軍以外は只のテロリストだぞ。

      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/04(Fri) 00:02:30 ID:95858c722            ★コメ返信★

        大局的な物の見方ができないから狂信的テロリストの盲目的な部下やってるんやぞ。そんな見方できなくて当たり前よ

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/04(Fri) 09:14:05 ID:fd3d4d73b            ★コメ返信★

        いつの間にか大局が対局になっとるが
        どうせなら太極拳まで行け

      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/04(Fri) 09:23:05 ID:5a6c182cf            ★コメ返信★

        ※4
        なおジオン共和国やサイド6などの残存コロニー自体さらにはアースノイドの分離主義がジオン残党の重要なリソースと化しとる模様
        ジオン残党ってイスラム過激派みたいなもんで、中央政府の機能不全が背景にあるの
        もなかなか根絶できん一因やで
        逆に中央政府が権限失ったバビロニア建国戦争以降はきれいに消滅する道理でもあるけど

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/04(Fri) 09:40:16 ID:cbd3e2d15            ★コメ返信★

        中高生以下の子供の頃はガトーが凄く渋くて格好良いおっさんに見えてたのに、自分が社会に出てその年齢を追い越してみると評価が180度変わるよな…

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/04(Fri) 17:21:43 ID:f2e86529a            ★コメ返信★

        全盛期のアムロやシャアと互角以上の実力者として描かれてた時期もあったのに今ではこの様 漫画版では晒し者になって欲しい

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/04(Fri) 20:35:35 ID:ee3ca8a73            ★コメ返信★

        一時期はガトー・ヤザン・ブラン・ラカンでオールド四傑みたいな雰囲気あったが
        ヤザンがわりとageられ続けてるのと対照的だな

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/05(Sat) 00:31:47 ID:9cb5ce93f            ★コメ返信★

        いや、お前らスペースノイドの解放を謳っておきながら、コロニー落としやらG3ガスやらでスペースノイド虐殺しまくってただろ?民間人大量虐殺する奴のどこら辺に大義や正義あるのか?と、小一時間ほど問い詰めたくなったあのシーンか。

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/05(Sat) 16:12:06 ID:12fae085a            ★コメ返信★

        ※10
        ヤザンはカミーユをして「強い(けどそれだけ)」と戦闘センスに尖ってると印象付けた上で実際最後にキレさせるまでZカミーユや百式クワトロ相手に終始優勢で名前キャラのキルスコアもそこそこ高い
        ブランは何かと本調子じゃなかったとはいえカミーユアムロクワトロの3エース相手に互角
        ラカンは数はいても質が落ちたZZネオジオンでもハマーン以外では比較的まともなパイロット。一応一年戦争にも出てたベテランって話らしいのもあるし。ダブリンで避難民いじめてキレたジュドーにザク3の足切られてハヤトの小型機で撹乱されて逃げたりもしたけど
        キルスコア的にも描写的にもガトーは雑魚専って感じでモブ食ってるかヒヨっ子のウラキとどつき合ってるシーンくらいしかないから「四天王の中では奴は最弱…」みたいなポジション感は出てくる

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/09(Wed) 12:41:30 ID:c7047aba5            ★コメ返信★

        >>8
        こういう書き込みしてるうちはまだまだガキさね
        大人なら人間の不完全さ前提の魅力をわかるから欠点と美点両方見れる

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/09(Wed) 19:30:07 ID:a0e84e08c            ★コメ返信★

        なお法廷に持ち込むどころかコウも含めたアルビオン組が反逆と内通で取っ捕まりそう
        デンドロでバスクに向けて砲撃しちゃってるしなー
        そんな疑いかけられてるコウがガトーを殺せる状態で殺さずに助け
        脱出の際にジオンのコムサイに乗っかって助けられたのを
        バッチリ連邦の機体に見られてるのが今の状態だったりすると言っておく

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/21(Mon) 10:40:10 ID:545b6ede4            ★コメ返信★

        ※13
        全くだよな、ガトーみたいなキャラにハマるのが中2病なら、否定してオレかっけーする高2病に過ぎない。

      16. 16. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/09/30(Wed) 13:51:25 ID:c9562c30d            ★コメ返信★

        ガトーも若造に思える年になってもハゲだけは理解できんわ
        敵前逃亡の揚げ句勝手に昇進して何しとんコイツ

      17. 17. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/10/23(Fri) 01:43:18 ID:739c8e74f            ★コメ返信★

        ※16
        そんな風に自分の思考知識教養のなさを堂々とさらけ出す発言をして恥ずかしくないの?
        うわー スゲー げんだいのゆうしゃだわー
        かっこいいなー

      18. 18. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/18(Wed) 21:24:33 ID:c2c224f27            ★コメ返信★

        ガトーとニムバスならどっちのが視野が広いんだろ

      19. 19. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/20(Fri) 09:27:37 ID:c66da7eee            ★コメ返信★

        ジオンは守るべきスペースノイドでも意見が違ったら皆殺しな奴らだからな

      20. 20. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2020/11/30(Mon) 18:49:19 ID:904973f49            ★コメ返信★

        結局ジオンのみなさんの思想って地球を住めなくすればみんな平等になるやんっていう
        地球さんからしたらふざけんなと言いたくなるようなものだからなぁ
        そこだけはギレンからシャアまで一貫してるわ

      21. 21. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/04/12(Mon) 22:18:24 ID:2e7030639            ★コメ返信★

        ジオンって外側ドイツっぽいけど、中身は日本赤軍っぽい

      22. 22. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/07/16(Fri) 23:15:47 ID:73f1c1689            ★コメ返信★

        「ギレン閣下の思想に賛同しない者はスペースノイドではない」とか言ってくれてたら
        開戦時に同じスペースノイドを大量虐殺したデラーズに従いながらスペースノイドのために!って言うのも理解できたかな

      23. 23. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/07/25(Sun) 09:14:24 ID:803c796d1            ★コメ返信★

        士官学校出てすぐさまテロ組織に四年も染まってたらこうもなろう

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