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    1: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:20:27

    ｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!!
    6: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:25:26
    連邦のプロパガンダアニメ
    3: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:22:27
    やっぱ最初っから体制側だよなぁガンダム
    4: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:23:51
    そりゃ連邦のMSだし
    7: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:25:51
    正義のＭＳや！
    8: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:26:00
    プロパガンダ映像で使われてそうなやつ
    ジオンの人が聞くとキレる
    25: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:52:18
    >8
    コロニー落としした側にキレる資格あんのかよ
    38: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:03:34
    >25
    ギレンが扇動した上でキレたから開戦に踏み切ったんだろう
    良い悪いじゃなくてキレるにまでは至ってるんだ
    65: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:23:34
    >38
    開戦反対派はコロニー住民毎始末して地球に落としました
    いかがでしたか？
    5: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:24:10
    ジオン星人は悪だし
    62: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:22:51
    連邦は腐ってるけどジオンはまあ悪だわな
    76: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:28:41
    >62
    腐敗してるしこのままじゃダメっていうのは分かるけど
    だからといって何してもいいと思ってるような無法な所業は論外っていうのが
    どんどん身近に感じる世の中になってくるな…
    31: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:59:51
    連邦が正義かは置いといてジオンが正義かは確実に違うと言えるからな
    30: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:58:12
    悔しかったらジオンもザクの歌作れ
    9: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:26:21
    戦争を仕掛けてあまつさえコロニーを落とした悪の公国に立ち向かう正義のメカだろガンダムは
    11: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:27:41
    外野が無神経に煽っている感じの歌詞
    ということらしい
    14: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:31:44
    イデオンやダンバインはヒーローソングっぽく聞こえて割と的確な歌詞だと思うけど1stガンダムはなんか違うよな…
    15: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:33:42
    いやーイデオンもまあ必殺の技が撃つのは我が身なのかと～
    みたいな雲行きの怪しさがあるゾ
    17: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:35:45
    Z・刻をこえても割と歌詞は前向きでZガンダムっぽくない気がする
    73: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:26:25
    >17
    歌思い出そうとしたら前奏長いなこれ…
    24: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:49:36
    正義かはともかく正当な怒りをぶつける権利はあるよガンダム
    35: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:01:50
    せいぎのいかり＝ガンダムハンマーの持ち手の部分
    27: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:55:22
    いきなり燃え上がれとか言われて煽られてるもんなあ
    29: 名無し 2022/07/31 15:57:44
    銀河に向かうのはどういう意図なんだろう
    32: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:00:02
    >29
    宇宙に出てジオンを倒せじゃない？
    33: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:01:10
    スポンサーをだまくらかすための歌詞や
    41: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:05:39
    甦って銀河に向かって飛ぶのはもうイデオンかなんかじゃないの
    43: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:05:46
    よみがえるよみがえるよみがえるという事は以前死んだの？
    48: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:07:53
    >43
    アムロに追いつけなくてパーツが死にかけたくらいかな…
    42: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:05:46
    渦巻く血潮を燃やせ！！！ガンダム！！！！！
    45: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:06:29
    >42
    アムロじゃなくてガンダムなんだ…
    46: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:07:29
    実際ジオン軍というかジーンの虐殺ぶりにアムロがキレたわけだし…
    54: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:17:04
    アムロ個人の苦悩はまあプロパガンダには関係ないため歌詞には含めないものとする
    75: 名無し 2022/07/31 16:26:42
    >54
    アムロ振りむくなってそういう

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      1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/07/31(Sun) 22:51:08 ID：fd132d02b ★コメ返信★

        おまえらの大嫌いなアナベル・ガトーの強奪も核発射もコロニー落としもデラーズフリートなりの正義でやらかしてる訳で結局、正義なんて両方の尺度があるだろとしか？
        プッチンもプッチンなりの正義？狂気でウクライナ侵攻してんだろうし？

        反応:※7 ※8
      2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/07/31(Sun) 23:23:46 ID：01449e96f ★コメ返信★

        いや、あのOPはガンダムが作り始められた当初のスポンサーを納得させるためのモノだったのでジオンが悪だったんだが、作品的には戦争をリアルに描こうとし勧善懲悪じゃないんだから悪も正義もないだろ

        ジオンが独裁的な悪で、連邦が腐り切った民主主義の悪だと思う。その後UC世界の歴史を見れば連邦政府が正義だなんて口が裂けても言えんだろ

      3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/07/31(Sun) 23:59:33 ID：176223caa ★コメ返信★

        第一話は民間人諸共攻撃するジーンに生き残る為の攻撃してるから…

      4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/01(Mon) 00:08:12 ID：b249862f3 ★コメ返信★

        アムロはふるさと捨ててまでジオン星人と戦う道を選んだから……

        反応:※5
      5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/01(Mon) 01:12:11 ID：26cdc0d8d ★コメ返信★

        ※4
        まあ、故郷じゃないにしろ第1話の時点で現居住地は割と息苦しそうな環境になってたからな

      6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/01(Mon) 06:17:31 ID：2b2bdef58 ★コメ返信★

        少なくとも近隣住民皆殺しにされてんだから、アムロにとっては間違いなく巨悪だろうジオンは。

        反応:※10
      7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/01(Mon) 06:31:10 ID：d71a47a96 ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        善悪の定義が多数決な以上少数派は正義と思い込んでる悪に過ぎん

      8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/01(Mon) 12:24:09 ID：757826db1 ★コメ返信★

        ※1
        そもそもウクライナ問題はアメリカ側がクーデターを引き起こして親露派大統領を追い落としたのが原因。

      9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/01(Mon) 12:45:48 ID：5512e559b ★コメ返信★

        >記事35
        ハイパーハンマーでは正義のいかりを失ってしまったのか・・・

      10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/01(Mon) 12:49:09 ID：5512e559b ★コメ返信★

        ※6
        ジオン側にも自分たちにとっての正義を持って戦争してるからな。
        正義の怒りをアムロがジオンにぶつけるのは当然だし、でもそれはジオンにとっては悪魔による理不尽な暴力ともなり得る。

      11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/01(Mon) 14:28:57 ID：673d2b294 ★コメ返信★

        >悔しかったらジオンもザクの歌作れ
        機動戦士アッガイならあったな

      12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/01(Mon) 17:14:06 ID：690228952 ★コメ返信★

        あんなトゲついた軍服の集団が正義なわけないだろ

      13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/04(Thu) 20:34:25 ID：0e91e02df ★コメ返信★

        初期コンセプト（スポンサー向け）は石像の中に眠る古代兵器のロマンロボ路線だったし
        その頃にはもう主題歌の発注掛けてたんだろう

      14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/08/05(Fri) 23:21:59 ID：bc7257307 ★コメ返信★

        連邦とジオンが正義と正義のぶつかり合いって言うのはにわか発見器
        両方悪だがジオンの方がより悪い
        大義と正義は違うし多数決でなんて決まらん

      15. 15. 名前:匿名 投稿日：2022/09/01(Thu) 01:02:12 ID：77595bac2 ★コメ返信★

        禿のアニメはOP歌詞が内容を裏切っているもの結構あるよね。
        イデオンなんか「正義証か～」とか「怯えるな心開けよ～」は完全に真逆言ってるし。

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