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1: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:51:31▼このレスに返信

ピーキー機体はロマン
2: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:52:21▼このレスに返信
ピーキーとか以前の問題
7: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:54:04▼このレスに返信
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運用上の特徴の話であって欠陥に用いる表現では無いからな…
4: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:52:54▼このレスに返信
おっと正当な量産型発見伝
5: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:54:01▼このレスに返信
コンペ落ちの欠陥機をそういう表現でごまかすな
9: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:54:49▼このレスに返信
性能については置いといて
エンジンが止まらないことに関して少佐の意見を聞きたい
10: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:56:02▼このレスに返信
>9
ジオニックの情報操作だ
11: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:56:48▼このレスに返信
欠陥性全然改善されてないんだよなあー!!
14: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:58:06▼このレスに返信
デュバル少佐が建てたスレ
15: 名無し 2021/02/08 20:59:31▼このレスに返信
この一機で連邦のジム4機をバラバラにした事実から目を逸らすな
ジオニックは現実を見ろ
17: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:01:10▼このレスに返信
ヨーツンヘイムの主力兵器来たな…
19: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:02:34▼このレスに返信
>17
ザクすら回されない粗大ゴミ部隊にとっては貴重な戦力だからな…
20: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:03:20▼このレスに返信
追いかけたジムも爆発してたけど
連邦の方が制式化の基準緩かったってオチなのかな
23: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:05:09▼このレスに返信
>20
ジムは少佐のヅダと違ってエンジンカットできるけどそうすると後ろにモニク機がいるし飛ばすしかなかった
60: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:22:01▼このレスに返信
>20
ジムのランドセルはガンダムと同じもので最大推力も同じだから
ルナチタニウム合金じゃない機体が持たなかったのでは?
109: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:31:33▼このレスに返信
>20
ヒス女が追いかけるの止めたあたりでリミッター振り切れてるだろうからジムたちが途中で諦めても勝手に加速して爆発するはず
あとヅダドム型とそれ以外は推進技術が違うから冷却構造あたりの設定も違った気がした
22: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:05:07▼このレスに返信
リミッター付いてるから高機動ザク未満なんだよね…
29: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:07:35▼このレスに返信
HGUCはこいつめっちゃ肩引き出せるじゃんと思ったら胴体分解しててさすがヅダ…ってなった
41: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:11:30▼このレスに返信
いい機体だな!高機動ザク乗るわ!
39: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:10:30▼このレスに返信
なんなら一番こいつを評価してたのはジオニックだしな
45: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:11:58▼このレスに返信
なんだかんだザクよりコストがお高いだけの基本性能はあるよね
50: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:17:03▼このレスに返信
旧ザクの時代に機動性は高機動ザクぐらいのができてるってのは割とピーキー寄りの評価も間違いではないとは思う
欠陥はそれ以前の問題として
55: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:18:45▼このレスに返信
別にスレ画を採用すべきとかすばらしい機体だとか言うつもりはないんだけど
こんな使い方をすると壊れるからしないでねみたいなのは機械ならままあることで欠陥機呼ばわりはなんか違う気がしちゃう
なんなら現実で大勢のお客様を乗せて飛ぶ安全に遥かに神経質な旅客機ですら壊れるような動かし方したら壊れるし
59: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:21:28▼このレスに返信
>55
その通りではあるんだがこいつの場合銃弾砲弾飛び交う戦場でアクセル踏みっぱなしはダメよと言われるので…
86: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:26:53▼このレスに返信
>55
その「壊れる使い方」をしないのならザクより劣るので
尚更スレ画を採用する意味がないんだ…
92: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:28:55▼このレスに返信
>86
コスパでって言うならともかく性能は普通のザクより上だろ
61: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:22:04▼このレスに返信
こいつに関してはデュバルが狂ってるで割と決着ついてる気はする
68: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:23:10▼このレスに返信
>61
ツィマッドも迷惑してるから本当にあの人が勝手にけおってる
62: 名無し 2021/02/08 21:22:11▼このレスに返信
ヅダそのものの性能というよりやっぱり少佐がコイツの評価を下げてるのでは?とは思う
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  1. 1. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/09(Tue) 20:11:27 ID:5a645dd3b            ★コメ返信★

    殺人的な加速度って程でもないのがなあ

  2. 2. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/09(Tue) 20:52:35 ID:5ce09023d            ★コメ返信★

    スレ画はピーキーとかじゃなく欠陥機
    そうだね、少佐?

  3. 3. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/09(Tue) 21:18:09 ID:5cc88cc70            ★コメ返信★

    >>いい機体だな!高機動ザク乗るわ!

    この台詞で終わってしまう程度の欠陥品

  4. 4. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/09(Tue) 21:19:45 ID:96d02bbf4            ★コメ返信★

    せめて自壊しない程度のピーキーでおねがいします

  5. 5. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/09(Tue) 21:50:10 ID:07f3d012c            ★コメ返信★

    ピーキーな機体と言われるとアレックスのイメージがある

  6. 6. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/09(Tue) 22:20:10 ID:3d622ec0a            ★コメ返信★

    欠陥は論外だけどそこ差し引いても普通に高機動ザクの方が上だろ。高機動ザクの方がコスト高いとしても普通のザクのパーツ流用できる分武装も整備性もザクの方がいいし

  7. 7. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/10(Wed) 00:30:08 ID:ab96c3afe            ★コメ返信★

    ピーキー自体には全然ロマン感じない
    ピーキーな機械をそのまま使うってのは使いこなすどころか勝ちを捨ててるだけ
    それでも勝つ!っていうのは使い手側の問題であってその機械である意味が消える
    間に「”それ”を勝ちという目的に繋げる部分」を含めて初めてロマンになんだよ

  8. 8. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/10(Wed) 03:03:49 ID:95df2ac13            ★コメ返信★

    >その通りではあるんだがこいつの場合銃弾砲弾飛び交う戦場で
    >アクセル踏みっぱなしはダメよと言われるので…
    ミサイルに追い回される戦闘機でも安全上の制限はごく普通にあるから
    現実基準で言うとヅダが欠陥機というよりも
    そのへん特に気にしてる様子がない他のMSが化け物なんだよな

  9. 9. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/10(Wed) 08:32:25 ID:726d56724            ★コメ返信★

    アニメに現実基準で言うとか頭化け物かよw

  10. 10. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/10(Wed) 09:59:28 ID:f99551975            ★コメ返信★

    HADESも積んで更にピーキーにしよ

  11. 11. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/10(Wed) 11:32:46 ID:a85e9604a            ★コメ返信★

    ピーキーじゃなくてご都合主義の塊
    専門のパイロットじゃなくても普通に扱えて、しかもデュバルみたいな無茶をしなくても戦果を出してると云うね

  12. 12. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/10(Wed) 21:58:53 ID:c4ca26677            ★コメ返信★

    「ジオン軍の失敗」という本のタイトル見て真っ先に思い浮かべるMS。

    いや、採用をザクにしたことで、ジオン軍としては失敗してないぞ、少佐!

  13. 13. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/02/10(Wed) 22:14:47 ID:dc1143007            ★コメ返信★

    性能が偏ってて扱いにくいのと致命的な欠陥があるのとでは意味が違うでしょ、少佐!

  14. 14. 名前:匿名 投稿日:2021/07/28(Wed) 12:09:53 ID:d39e767b2            ★コメ返信★

    これ有人爆弾かと思ってた。モビルスーツだったのな

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