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【ガンダム】よく「富野テイスト」って言うけど、定義ってあるの？？

1: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:11:14▼このレスに返信

富野ﾃｲｽﾄって何だろうか

5: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:12:28▼このレスに返信

リアルなんだけどなんか微妙におかしいセリフ回し

45: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:45:57▼このレスに返信

>5
小説もかなりおかしくて
子供の頃ソノラマ文庫ガンダムやリーンの翼を読んだ時
これは自分の理解力が無いからさっぱり面白くないんだろうと

6: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:13:34▼このレスに返信

とりあえず〇すいい感じに〇す嫌な感じに〇す主人公以外〇す全部〇す

9: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:14:14▼このレスに返信

ラスボスに全責任をおっ被せる

10: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:15:24▼このレスに返信

ヒス女が書いたようなセリフ

15: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:19:07▼このレスに返信

>10
それなのにちゃんと伝わる感じに仕上げて来るのが妙というか

18: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:22:11▼このレスに返信

>15
キャラ同士の会話は成立してないがな
特に戦闘中

17: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:21:07▼このレスに返信

こいつら自分が言いたいこと言うばっかで会話噛み合ってねーな
みたいなところ

21: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:23:25▼このレスに返信

文法がめちゃくちゃなのに聞いたらなんか脳にすっと入ってくる感じ

94: 名無し 2021/06/01 12:29:06▼このレスに返信

昔は俗人とか俗物使うこと多かったね

97: 名無し 2021/06/01 12:36:56▼このレスに返信

>94
Z終盤は俗人俗物祭り

41: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:41:54▼このレスに返信

長ったらしい説明台詞が注目されがちだけど
「あのカップルご夫婦なの?「傷を舐め合ってるんですよ」「あぁ…」
とかバッサリいくのもまた味だと思う

44: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:45:06▼このレスに返信

映像のテンポ感を意識してるからそこを無視してただ野暮ったくすると富野節から外れる

48: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:47:11▼このレスに返信

>44
逆にいうとテンポ重視してセリフを無理矢理圧縮するとそれっぽくなるかも？

57: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:50:22▼このレスに返信

>48
更に逆にキメのシーンでフルネーム言ったりわざと間を作ったりするのもいいと思う

49: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:47:21▼このレスに返信

リアルじゃないよな
どちらかと言うと演劇的というか

58: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:50:22▼このレスに返信

>49
お禿の言い回しを真似してるだけの脚本は演劇的な言い回しになる
ユニコとかその典型

43: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:44:29▼このレスに返信

あの人が死ぬか生死関わる瞬間色が変わってうねうねしたエフェクトが出てスローモーションになるやつ

27: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:29:03▼このレスに返信

人名なのかメカ名なのか地名なのかわからん単語が説明抜きでボンボン飛び出す

22: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:25:14▼このレスに返信

ラカンダカランとかアマンダラカマンダラとかライラミラライラ
メッチャームチャ　

59: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:50:48▼このレスに返信

コクピットから身を乗り出したりする
これが地味に効くんだけど中々継承されてない

63: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:52:37▼このレスに返信

>59
継承ってそんな当たり前の演出みんなやってるよ

82: 名無し 2021/06/01 12:01:59▼このレスに返信

>59
カトル対トロワでもしてた

69: 名無し 2021/06/01 11:55:29▼このレスに返信

コクピットもだけど富野ってその場にあるものや空間を使った演出が上手いよね
本当にその場所があってキャラクターがそこで生きてる感じがする

77: 名無し 2021/06/01 12:00:42▼このレスに返信

>69
メインで喋ってるキャラの後ろでモブがちょこちょこ芝居してるコンテ描くんでめんどくさい
って昔やっさんがぼやいてた
一方湖川は大歓迎困らせてくれって

86: 名無し 2021/06/01 12:04:30▼このレスに返信

背景で演技するモブはアニメーターの技量が問われる
富野がやりたいことは理解るがまるで三部屋役者が必死で自分を売ってるようだと感じることも多いわ

89: 名無し 2021/06/01 12:14:02▼このレスに返信

>86
イデオンのギジェがソロシップに下るシーンとかね
何か喋りそうで誰も喋らないので違和感がすごい
やりすぎは良くない

90: 名無し 2021/06/01 12:21:33▼このレスに返信

F91は突然赤ちゃんが泣き出したりスクーターが意味なくコケたり間が空くことを無駄に恐れてた
その役割をモブにやらせると何今の？と感じることは多いよ特に富野アニメで

131: 名無し 2021/06/01 14:30:59▼このレスに返信

話の最中にモブに注意したりする
「それは向こうに持っていくんだよ！」

105: 名無し 2021/06/01 12:49:14▼このレスに返信

ハサウェイも普通の人語を喋るんだろうか
原作再現できるのか

123: 名無し 2021/06/01 13:39:10▼このレスに返信

ハサウェイは小説とセリフを比べてないけど公開されている冒頭部分は少しテンポ悪く感じるから
映像に合わせたセリフ直しって必要なんだろうなって思う

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/01(Tue) 22:32:29 ID：0ea474749 ★コメ返信★

ケイディのエプロンみたいな事をヌケヌケとやる
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/01(Tue) 23:54:03 ID：970a1fd98 ★コメ返信★

視聴者が拘るキャラとかマシーンとか設定とかに全然拘らないでスッパスッパ切ってくところ
あとあくまで作品は現実で生きる糧にするものだと思ってるところ
例えば宇宙世紀の話題でアムロとカミーユのその後の行方はとかサイコフレームの真実がとかジオンが消滅した謎とかそういうの結構出るけど本人全然気にしてないだろ多分
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 00:51:48 ID：434b6cb37 ★コメ返信★

ゲイン・ビジョウのやり方が！私にそうさせたのだ！
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 01:49:21 ID：db0607908 ★コメ返信★

本当ならヤバイこのヒト頭おかCと思える言い回しなんだが
何故か魂から絞り出てくるセリフに聞こえるから不思議
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 02:00:12 ID：a5c2568f5 ★コメ返信★

常にキャラが半ギレで喋ってるイメージ
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 04:10:53 ID：9c51e3f15 ★コメ返信★

やたら評価されるけど普通に日本語は下手くそだよな
小説読んで読みづらい以上に褒める感想を持ったら嘘だわ
アニメにして喋らせると妙な味が出て面白いだけで

反応:※8
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 05:11:56 ID：e1a59dae5 ★コメ返信★

富野テイストは駄作であることだな

反応:※11
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 07:47:19 ID：941db247e ★コメ返信★

※6
まあその下手さが逆に生っぽいとも思える。
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 10:51:29 ID：4fd5fcbd2 ★コメ返信★

テイストっつってんのに定義もクソもあるかよ
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 12:11:57 ID：88f7edb88 ★コメ返信★

売れてないならそうだよ

反応:※12
11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 13:57:00 ID：56b20630e ★コメ返信★

※7
UCや鬼滅のような難解かつ哲学的な深さがないもんな
正義側のNTが悪いOTや鬼をやっつけてく尊さや儚さが

反応:※19
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 13:58:36 ID：56b20630e ★コメ返信★

※10
草
まあ
UCや鬼滅みたいな売上ない＝ゴミだもんなw
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 15:05:50 ID：9624e1f82 ★コメ返信★

全肯定するではないけど、劇場版Ｚを作った際御大が
『ロボットアニメは戦闘シーンで話をすすめると面白くなる』
と言っていたのを聞いて、以降御大の作品に関わらず、そこを注目して鑑賞するようになった
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/02(Wed) 15:33:37 ID：826a52746 ★コメ返信★

宮崎監督のダメ弟子みたいな庵野（天才）

冨野監督のダメ弟子みたいな福井（凡人）

この差はどうしょうも無いだろ
15. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/03(Thu) 01:18:33 ID：70bb6b6a8 ★コメ返信★

正直庵野の作品面白いと思った事ないな。
16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/03(Thu) 13:18:13 ID：a533cfd5f ★コメ返信★

会話のキャツチボールが成り立っておらず
設定、解説を読んだうえで想像で補っても監督の思考に追いつけない不親切設計
後日インタビューで逆張りされて信者が褒め称えるまでが仕様
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/03(Thu) 13:25:44 ID：b062f643c ★コメ返信★

感情的に文章を考えると富野節になる気がする
キレ過ぎて何言ってるかわからないけどいいたい事はわかるみたいな
18. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/06/11(Fri) 00:51:18 ID：4f2fac382 ★コメ返信★

UCに哲学的な深さ…？別の世界からでも来たん？
19. 名前:匿名投稿日：2021/11/03(Wed) 01:38:28 ID：9f8292537 ★コメ返信★

※11
その例は型にはまった勧善懲悪だし、そもそも鬼滅やUCはメッセージ性やテーマ性的にはかなり浅い作品では……？
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