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【ガンダム】ジムよりザクが好きな人はどういうところに魅力を感じるの？

103: 名無し 2020/02/20 16:19:36▼このレスに返信

重厚感がいいのだ

1: 名無し 2020/02/20 14:58:29▼このレスに返信

ザクの魅力を語ってくれ

5: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:01:02▼このレスに返信

左右非対称なデザイン

6: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:02:08▼このレスに返信

優しそうな瞳

7: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:03:12▼このレスに返信

減速できない

10: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:04:07▼このレスに返信

語りきれない

29: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:14:54▼このレスに返信

軍用機らしさという一点ではガンダムよりかっこいいと思う

48: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:22:20▼このレスに返信

>29
このうぁ…俺ガンダム殺してしまった感

32: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:16:44▼このレスに返信

カスタムしやすさは宇宙世紀随一

47: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:21:57▼このレスに返信

オラザクといわれるくらい改造しがいがある

62: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:31:43▼このレスに返信

やっぱり1話のザクが強烈だった

125: 名無し 2020/02/20 17:12:29▼このレスに返信

>62
1話はメカも安彦原画だよな
メカを動かしても最高だ
人間くさい動きで理屈には合わないんだがそこを超えた良さがある

35: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:17:55▼このレスに返信

動力パイプかな
あれを引きちぎられるシーンが兵器感を醸し出している

63: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:32:08▼このレスに返信

ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!

53: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:23:58▼このレスに返信

ボールを蹴るのがかっこいい

68: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:45:30▼このレスに返信

大戦終盤まで稼働し続けたのは設計が優秀だったからか
それとも戦前から戦力として整備され続けてした故に数が揃っていたからなのか

73: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:51:13▼このレスに返信

>68
まぁ1年戦争だしね
それこそガンダムの登場から終戦まで3～4ヵ月よ？

69: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:47:40▼このレスに返信

>68
たいていは後継機の生産が間に合わなかったからやで

71: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:49:31▼このレスに返信

>69
でもゲルググは訓練短縮した練度の低い学徒兵を載せるくらいには作れていたんだよね？
ザク乗りは今更の機種転換を嫌ったのだろうか

79: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:56:45▼このレスに返信

グフとかドムとかZ期MSの作画崩れは見てて気になるが
ザクはまあうんってなる謎の許容範囲があるところ

118: 名無し 2020/02/20 16:59:15▼このレスに返信

>79
ZZのザクはすげぇマッシブだ

87: 名無し 2020/02/20 16:02:05▼このレスに返信

なんでザクは人気なのにジムは人気じゃないの
初登場で変態に腹突き刺されたから？

88: 名無し 2020/02/20 16:02:35▼このレスに返信

>87
なんで人気無いことになってんの？

105: 名無し 2020/02/20 16:21:44▼このレスに返信

>88
ジムは派生が多すぎる…
僕はネモがすきです

98: 名無し 2020/02/20 16:13:05▼このレスに返信

>87
人気あったから情景模型になってザクまで付いてくるお得感

109: 名無し 2020/02/20 16:32:35▼このレスに返信

>87
初代MSVの頃の知識で止まってるな
あれから何十年経ったと思っているんだ

56: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:24:55▼このレスに返信

個人的にザクよりジム系の方が好きなんだが
最近オリジンザク作ったらこっちも良いな…と思えるようになった

102: 名無し 2020/02/20 16:18:29▼このレスに返信

ザクがかっこいいか悪いかで言ったらかっこ悪いと思うけど
実際人みたいに動けば感情移入できるから魅力がないわけではない
そんな感じ

11: 名無し 2020/02/20 15:05:05▼このレスに返信

もしガンダムに出てくるロボットじゃなかったら今みたいにカッコイイと感じられただろうかとふと思う

1. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 12:26:32 ID：c0ba21a55 ★コメ返信★

ジムってガンダムというベースデザインありきでそこから派生した存在だけど
ザクはザクとしてベースになっててそこからジオンデザインの派生が起きてる
だからやられ役なんだけど格としてはガンダムに並ぶ不思議なポジションなんだ
2. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 12:51:51 ID：1f10d7670 ★コメ返信★

ガンダムやジムは何か完成品って感じがするからかなぁ

反応:※5
3. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 13:13:37 ID：bbc497250 ★コメ返信★

ガンダムならザク、ダグラムならソルティック、ボトムズならスコープドック……が好きなんだが頭の丸い緑の量産機って何か魅力的に感じる何かがあるんだろうか…？
4. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 13:13:54 ID：84e5294cd ★コメ返信★

ガンダムの歴史はザクの歴史とも言える
5. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 13:20:19 ID：84e5294cd ★コメ返信★

※2
配色の影響もあるだろうけど、白くてスマートで小綺麗すぎるというか。なんか白物家電っぽい

ザクはジムニーみたいなダサかっこよさがある
6. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 13:56:13 ID：edb8db8d0 ★コメ返信★

シャアが最初に乗ってたからでしょ
もしシャアが最初にシャアザクじゃなくてシャアグフとかだったら
ザクはただのやられ雑魚扱いで終わってた
7. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 14:47:41 ID：6d21e2122 ★コメ返信★

ガンダムってヒーローっぽすぎるんだよな
カラーリングとか
そこらへんザクって軍用機っぽさがある
80年代のお子様はちょっとヒネクレてたので
ヒーローっぽすぎるのをダサいって思っちゃってたんだよ
8. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 15:25:06 ID：2a79af5ce ★コメ返信★

ザクだけは塹壕戦で突破するための初期の戦車。それ以降のジオンのMSもジムも敵戦車を倒すための駆逐戦車なんだよね。ザクだけは唯一無二の存在なんだと思う。
9. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 19:17:33 ID：1f8e910ac ★コメ返信★

つるんとした頭に共感を覚えるんじゃね？
10. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 22:03:05 ID：88808acc2 ★コメ返信★

1stに限ったらジムよりザクのほうが多少ゴテゴテ感あって好き
ジムのほうはあまりにシンプルすぎて・・・

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11. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 22:12:30 ID：31e926272 ★コメ返信★

ジムは色々省いた感じのデザインと一気にたくさん出て安物感が大きい。
ザクはゼロ戦のような資源の無い国が一生懸命頑張って作りました感が強い。
12. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/02(Wed) 22:42:52 ID：65f04ad07 ★コメ返信★

>記事105
ネモはジムじゃねえよ。
13. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/03(Thu) 02:07:36 ID：9ba98fd32 ★コメ返信★

※10
見た目完全にガンダムの劣化版だしな
14. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/03(Thu) 02:30:23 ID：aac93050a ★コメ返信★

弱緑と足音がね…
15. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/03(Thu) 06:27:05 ID：f4cce7526 ★コメ返信★

単純に、初代アニメでジムは出番が少なかった
ザクは１話から敵としてずっと登場してて、シャアみたいなライバルも乗ってる
ジムは味方のモブだから、ほぼ背景か強敵のかませ

反応:※16
16. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/03(Thu) 10:23:43 ID：f44156502 ★コメ返信★

※15
圧倒的な上位機種に乗ってザクをなぎ倒すアムロからしても
迫るザクは「戦場そのものの象徴」だからやはり怖いって絶妙の匙加減ね
17. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/03(Thu) 17:49:32 ID：f44156502 ★コメ返信★

メカの魅力って結局はその機体が背負ったドラマの数なんだよ
その点でジムは背負うドラマが下から数えた方が早いぐらい少ない･･･というか
ザクが別格にいろんなドラマを大量に持ちすぎてる
18. 名前:匿名投稿日：2022/03/09(Wed) 13:21:55 ID：54b231724 ★コメ返信★

ジムも好きだけど、ザクはモノアイで表情付けられるのが良い点
あと、ジオンのベテランから新兵まで幅広く乗ってるから、妄想はかどるよね
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ジムはいっぱい描くと描きやすさに感動する
雑に描いてもそれなりに整う
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